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joseppe 05-28-2020 07:21 AM

So we all know the definition of 1st Degree Murder -
In most states, first-degree murder is defined as an unlawful killing that is both willful and premeditated, meaning that it was committed after planning or "lying in wait" for the victim.

On the other hand, Manslaughter may fit -
the crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought, or otherwise in circumstances not amounting to murder.

BUT I withhold my judgement until all the facts, evidence and full account of the entire incident are known.

graciegirl 05-28-2020 07:26 AM

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NFRicaS 05-28-2020 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Luvs21putt (Post 1772091)
And how sad, that no matter how many times we explain it, that you don’t get that there are a million other ways of protesting inequality than kneeling during the anthem. It was most definitely disrespecting the flag which was not necessary to the protest of inequality and highly offensive especially to those who died giving him the right to protest ( well except that he was at his job at the time and his employer had a rule against it and there was was plenty of time and plenty of methods to use in his free time to protest).

Anyway, with regard to the current horrible murder that just happened on video I hope they throw that cop in jail for the rest of his life and he may find out what it’s like to have someone else throw a power trip on him.

I encourage you to look up the article by Dale Hansen on the “kneeling during anthem” issue...you might learn something new...it has been viewed on YouTube over one million times, and I think speaks very eloquently.

daddys55 05-28-2020 07:35 AM

Some one explain to me how he choked him his knee was on the back of his neck typical procedure to keep a suspect down

cleanwater 05-28-2020 07:36 AM

Makes you wonder how many cases occur that were not video taped. How does our culture and training fail so badly that 3 police men stood by and watched? I expect we will hear about a long list of prior complaints against this officer that were dismissed. I doubt this was his first event, only the first that was video taped. Our training and over sight systems fail us in too many situations. Unfortunately a few bad characters destroy all the good that thousands of other officers do!

Mohawksin 05-28-2020 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1772025)
I wonder about the rioting and looting that is taking place. What is the point of it, and what good does it accomplish, especially the looting of innocent property owners? It seems counterproductive to me. Is it at all helpful?

Helpful, no. Typical, yes.

Flamingodoll 05-28-2020 07:44 AM

I watched the video. Doesn't really show a lot. Why did the police stop him anyway. So many people rush to judgement when the media only give you part of the picture. I prefer to wait for all the evidence before I make a decision and it won't come from the media..

airstreamingypsy 05-28-2020 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1772173)
Did he die from being suffocated? Did you know that the knee to the neck is a way that people are restrained when they are actively struggling against being handcuffed? Did he die from lack of air flow as it appears? Or did he die from a drug overdose? Do we know?

I think the fact that the officer's knee was on his neck, and he kept saying I can't breathe should give you a clue. Why would you even think drugs were involved? No one has said anything about drugs. Shame on you.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 05-28-2020 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 1772204)
I think the fact that the officer's knee was on his neck, and he kept saying I can't breathe should give you a clue. Why would you even think drugs were involved? No one has said anything about drugs. Shame on you.

One of the problems here is that it's common for people who are being subdued by police often yell that they can't breathe. Often times it's either the stress of being arrested that makes them think that they can't breathe or they are using it as a ploy to escape arrest.

joseppe 05-28-2020 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1772158)

Assuming the audience was composed of hetrosexuals the speaker could have substituted Gay in place of black and probably gotten the same response. Likewise with people of normal weight and substituted Grossly Obese. There are many prejudices and many forms of unfair treatment. I doubt that anything is going to change that.

If you're trying to say that person's demise was because he was born black then how do you propose we change that?

nututv 05-28-2020 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 1772204)
.... Why would you even think drugs were involved? No one has said anything about drugs. Shame on you.

Well there was most likely a reason why the guy was in cuffs and on the ground. He was a rapper and we all know the history with many of them. Not racist, just the facts. I'm very curious as to if he had a rap sheet or not and if so, what did it look like. Care to place any bets once his personal life is made public?

Heytubes 05-28-2020 08:06 AM

As a former LEO I feel the one will be charged with murder while the others as accessory to murder. I’ve noticed over the years that a very few officers have the stormtroooper syndrome in that they feel they’re above the law and can be little gods, thus casting contempt for the majority of officers that are doing a commendable job.

ColdNoMore 05-28-2020 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by joseppe (Post 1772213)
Assuming the audience was composed of hetrosexuals the speaker could have substituted Gay in place of black and probably gotten the same response. Likewise with people of normal weight and substituted Grossly Obese. There are many prejudices and many forms of unfair treatment. I doubt that anything is going to change that.

If you're trying to say that person's demise was because he was born black then how do you propose we change that?

1. Admit that systemic racism, injustice and prejudice against blacks...is still rampant today.

2. Folks admit that deep down, they're really glad they weren't born black in this country...because you know how much tougher you would have had it.

3. Vow to constantly fight against racism/bigotry/xenophobia/bigotry/prejudice/Etc.


Ahh, never mind, even the most racist try to hide that fact and would never even think...of doing any of those things.
:ohdear:

600th Photo Sq 05-28-2020 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1772035)
You're a bit late.

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump 6:39 PM · May 27, 2020

At my request, the FBI and the Department of Justice are already well into an investigation as to the very sad and tragic death in Minnesota of George Floyd.
I have asked for this investigation to be expedited and greatly appreciate all of the work done by local law enforcement. My heart goes out to George’s family and friends. Justice will be served!

Your comment regarding the President isn't necessary, some individuals make negative comments and no matter what he does it's never enough.

The Policemen involved here should be arrested.

The rioting that is going on is typical happens every time. Phase II :ohdear:

Langwelld 05-28-2020 08:20 AM

Absolutely no excuse here for this police behavior. 99.9% of police officers are great people doing great work, but not these jerks.


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