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anothersteve 05-28-2020 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1772434)


My question is though, what's the difference between those who were peacefully gathering/protesting having tear gas and rubber bullets being used on them, while those insecure camo & assault weapon warrior wannabe's...were allowed to threaten and scream in cops faces?
Freedom of speech is one thing, looting and rioting as far as I know is against the law, period!
Why is it ALWAYS race with you? Picking and choosing?
Steve

ColdNoMore 05-28-2020 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom2172 (Post 1772428)
Why not wait until the investigation is completed!
Looks bad but we should not convict based on Twitter and edited video clips!

Why the Rush to judgment?
Looks bad, maybe it is as shown, but basing anything on what today’s media puts out is a mistake.
We don’t get news we get propaganda.

Wait for the investigation.
Hate mobs & rioting doesn’t solve anything it only makes things worse
Given the plethora of actual videos of the death, I'm curious as to what in the world YOU would think...could justify the sadistic/racist cop keeping his knee on his neck for so long?

:popcorn:


And of course, the worst part being that if the videos didn't exist...it would just be business as usual. :mad:

nututv 05-28-2020 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Pamelah (Post 1772427)
It matters not one iota if he was on drugs. It mattered not if he had a rap sheet! There were 4 officers on the scene to subdue him. 3 watched as the 4th subdued and killed a man.
So a possible ex-con, possibly on something (note the words possible/ly) is no more or less harm than the average Joe in the Villages?
Have you ever seen a kid on crack? Have you ever seen how they go from zero to hero in the blink of an eye? Have you ever seen the strength that they have at the time?
I'm not the medical examiner nor was I there. It will take many iota's for me to make an informed decision. Maybe I never will due to lack of info. Seems everyone is a DA here. lol

ColdNoMore 05-28-2020 12:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1772438)
Freedom of speech is one thing, looting and rioting as far as I know is against the law, period!
Why is it ALWAYS race with you? Picking and choosing?
Steve

Read my post again.

Tear gas and rubber bullets were used on those just protesting.

As far as me being willing to stand up when blatant racial disparities occur, just call it a failing on my part...for being a decent human being. :ho:

ColdNoMore 05-28-2020 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by nututv (Post 1772440)
So a possible ex-con, possibly on something (note the words possible/ly) is no more or less harm than the average Joe in the Villages?
Have you ever seen a kid on crack? Have you ever seen how they go from zero to hero in the blink of an eye? Have you ever seen the strength that they have at the time?
I'm not the medical examiner nor was I there. It will take many iota's for me to make an informed decision. Maybe I never will due to lack of info. Seems everyone is a DA here. lol
Thank you for demonstrating exactly why, such vast and institutional...racial disparities still exist.

You've done a public service. :thumbup:

anothersteve 05-28-2020 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1772441)

Read my post again.

Tear gas and rubber bullets were used on those just protesting.

As far as me being willing to stand up when blatant racial disparities occur, just call it a failing on my part...for being a decent human being. :ho:
Too funny!
Steve

nututv 05-28-2020 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1772441)
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Read my post again.

Tear gas and rubber bullets were used on those just protesting.
If you're going to loot my store because what happened on the other side of the country... well I'll not be reaching for a can of tear gas. That's protesting???
Your definitions are a wee bit different than mine I guess.
George Floyd's death: Parts of Minneapolis burn during protests - CNN

retiredguy123 05-28-2020 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by claricecolin (Post 1772435)
The looters should be punished, full stop.

That being said, I have several issues. The other security videos show George being taken out of car and handcuffed with no incident. None of those show him resisting. The officer was kneeling on his neck for minutes despite he and bystanders begging him to stop. I realize most cops are not bad but why do they not speak up? There were 3other officers there and they did nothing to stop the other one.
George was suspected of passing a bad check or bill(not sure if which) in my 20 plus years of retail management have never called cops on either. Policy was refuse sale try to keep suspect bills if safe to do so. In any case they were to detain him not murder him.

Why is there a segment of cops that seem to be terrified of black men? Do they need training or should they not be on the force? They all seem to say I feared for my life, he was super human, resisting arrest and the like. Fear is understandable in any arrest but it always seems like a special level of fear in these cases.

I am not saying all cops but I am tired of seeing the same thing over and over again.
The looters won't be punished. So, the next time an event like this occurs, there will be more looting.

nututv 05-28-2020 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1772443)
Thank you for demonstrating exactly why, such vast and institutional...racial disparities still exist.

You've done a public service. :thumbup:
You've given your opinion on race once again. I congratulate you Oh keeper of humanity.
You still haven't answered any of the many questions.

Neils 05-28-2020 12:38 PM
I speak from experiance as an ex police officer

1. The officers involved need to be Arrested now On suspicion of murder, and eventually charged with murder as soon as case can be Filed.

2. The rioters should all be arrested for disorderedly conduct, vandalism and theft. They do not own Target or Autozone.

3. The stores should close in this area to minimize future risk to their innocent employees and valuable property

4. The police need to be retrained immediately. Their traditional job that taxpayers pay them to do is to “ protect and serve” Do they somehow now think that Deployment of militarized officers in flack jackets touting “law enforcement” Builds community support????

5. Judges and prosecutors, mayors and political hacks, all need to support arresting and removing the Lifelong criminals from our streets. These creeps ( yes creeps) ruin our cities and make them unsafe for police or citizens To enjoy.

This applies to all political parties and all races.

regas56 05-28-2020 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by sk450 (Post 1772415)
No one has mentioned that he was transported by the EMT's to the local hospital were he later died. This was showed on the Chicago news. Wait for the Medical Examiner findings of true cause of death. And what did Target have to do with this guy they got there store looted and cars were burnt because people were mad. They should close the store down and tell every one that this is the repercussions of there actions go loot and burn your own house. Oh that right our taxes pay for your house and big screen TV
They interviewed the Paramedics his heart stopped in the ambulance and they were not able to revive him.. They pronounced him dead at the hospital..

ColdNoMore 05-28-2020 12:46 PM
George Floyd protests: Man calls police on black entrepreneurs for using same gym in Minneapolis in viral video

Velvet 05-28-2020 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by nututv (Post 1772437)
Really! I never heard that before. Other examples please?
You have never been in battle? You are very lucky. Personal observations, as I witness war around me.

Ladygolfer93 05-28-2020 12:47 PM
Exactly ! Even some of the TV "talking heads" (who actually benefit from riots, "if it bleeds it leads" kind of mentality, are saying HOW can breaking into a big store and stealing a big screen TV and actually having others there to help you haul it HOME, be a "protest" to horrible, shameful, ILLEGAL behavior ???? To show my outrage of my home being broken into, or my rights trampled on, is the answer to go commit other illegal acts, arson setting things on fire, burglary, theft.... ? ? What in the world ? Did no one learn anything from MLK ? Gandhi ? Others ....

regas56 05-28-2020 12:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom2172 (Post 1772428)
Why not wait until the investigation is completed!
Looks bad but we should not convict based on Twitter and edited video clips!

Why the Rush to judgment?
Looks bad, maybe it is as shown, but basing anything on what today’s media puts out is a mistake.
We don’t get news we get propaganda.

Wait for the investigation.
Hate mobs & rioting doesn’t solve anything it only makes things worse
Because to often as time passes things tend to get swept under the rug and that is not fair for the victim or his loved ones..I f that was your loved one being murdered by a cop you would be anxious for justice also..


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