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JoMar 07-04-2020 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1797793)
Dissenting opinion is in a different world than LYING, DISTORTION OF FACTS, PERSONAL SLANDER.

NOT ONE person should ever stoop to the level of relying on Facebook or Twitter for news or issues. It is distorted greatly, and the changes at those two platforms are aiming at stopping the "outside influences" very much at play in both places. They need to be stronger.

If anyone wishes facts so they can develop a HEALTHY, logical opinion, these type places are a EXTREME TABOO. They do not present the truth, and all sides of any issue use them....the loudest wins ? Having a message that translates well on these type of sites, does not make them the correct message.

We all make our own opinion, but it has to be based on truths.

The difficulty is the truth is different to everyone. The days of Walter Cronkite, Huntley and Brinkley who reported and you didn't know their bias and they offered little commentary. Now the networks offer commentary with a little news thrown in now and then. We listen to those we agree with and that becomes our truth.

Bucco 07-04-2020 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1797799)
The difficulty is the truth is different to everyone. The days of Walter Cronkite, Huntley and Brinkley who reported and you didn't know their bias and they offered little commentary. Now the networks offer commentary with a little news thrown in now and then. We listen to those we agree with and that becomes our truth.

Perhaps I am just stupid. I make no decision on how I feel about any issue, without insuring I am aware of the ACTUAL FACTS.

From those facts, I can easily find the truth, and arrive at an opinion.

And, always insure I hear both or how many sides ther are.

In today's world, that's tough, but one FACT I AM CERTAIN OF. Facebook, YouTube and Twitter are FOR SURE not on my list of sources.

Congressional investigations on both sides after hearing world security experts and intelligence concluded overwhelmingly that those mediums are being fed untruths by several sources, some outside our boundaries.

Topspinmo 07-04-2020 06:24 PM

My opinion on social media. You don’t become billionaire by offering free site to _______ without selling their private information they post, basically it’s spying, monitoring, and gathering of information for sale to any business including federal government and you agreed to to it when you set up account and post. Twitter no different IMO IMO FB, tweeter, google, Utube, yahoo all gather information and sell it or use it for agenda. Not that familiar with instant graham probably has the same scheme.

Ever notice when you search for something online and all sudden you have pop up adds? Only one way to generate
Income off you’re information.

Topspinmo 07-04-2020 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1797581)
All you have to do I read this site for a week and realize Facebook has a good idea

Good idea selling personal information.

Aloha1 07-04-2020 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JimJohnson (Post 1797362)
I agree with Facebook. The average American does not process information with facts, they use emotional feeling like, “Well, my Daddy says”. When we move away from Medical Experts and listen to the loudest voice, we’re in trouble.

And why should some 20 something SJW be the arbiter of what we see and read?? Bias??

Northwoods 07-04-2020 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1797793)
Dissenting opinion is in a different world than LYING, DISTORTION OF FACTS, PERSONAL SLANDER.

NOT ONE person should ever stoop to the level of relying on Facebook or Twitter for news or issues. It is distorted greatly, and the changes at those two platforms are aiming at stopping the "outside influences" very much at play in both places. They need to be stronger.

If anyone wishes facts so they can develop a HEALTHY, logical opinion, these type places are a EXTREME TABOO. They do not present the truth, and all sides of any issue use them....the loudest wins ? Having a message that translates well on these type of sites, does not make them the correct message.

We all make our own opinion, but it has to be based on truths.

No one should decide what I can read and not read. That is censorship. If Facebook wants to tell me they believe information is incorrect, I don't have an issue with Facebook "tagging" it, stating that this information is incorrect, and linking to what they feel is factual information. BUT LET ME READ THE POST!!! They don't allow you to even see it.
I have many friends with differing views. I've seen a number of people "censored" on one side, yet no posts blocked by my other friends. And the block occurs to multiple friends. In my opinion, the decision to censor isn't objective.

tophcfa 07-04-2020 09:05 PM

Absolutely zero interest in Facebook, Twitter, Instagram etc...., TOV is the only social media platform I ever visit.

Stu from NYC 07-04-2020 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 1797910)
No one should decide what I can read and not read. That is censorship. If Facebook wants to tell me they believe information is incorrect, I don't have an issue with Facebook "tagging" it, stating that this information is incorrect, and linking to what they feel is factual information. BUT LET ME READ THE POST!!! They don't allow you to even see it.
I have many friends with differing views. I've seen a number of people "censored" on one side, yet no posts blocked by my other friends. And the block occurs to multiple friends. In my opinion, the decision to censor isn't objective.

Agreed. They have their point of view and they censor to that

tvbound 07-04-2020 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 1797910)
No one should decide what I can read and not read. That is censorship. If Facebook wants to tell me they believe information is incorrect, I don't have an issue with Facebook "tagging" it, stating that this information is incorrect, and linking to what they feel is factual information. BUT LET ME READ THE POST!!! They don't allow you to even see it.
I have many friends with differing views. I've seen a number of people "censored" on one side, yet no posts blocked by my other friends. And the block occurs to multiple friends. In my opinion, the decision to censor isn't objective.

"No one should decide what I can read and not read." "That is censorship."



I don't really care to get involved with all of these current threads, but it's hard to let this one go without a comment. When we rented there various times, as soon as my eyelids were open in the morning I headed to the postal station to get the paper. Mostly for seeing the open houses, scouting various villages and an overall idea of the homes for sale.

One thing we immediately noticed though, was that the paper was pretty sparse on actual national or international news and that which they did have, was far from balanced. No problem whatsoever with me though, since it is a private business and they have the right to print, or not print, anything they choose.

I fail to see where Facebook, or any other social media for that matter, is any different in their right to run their business the way they want.

Bucco 07-05-2020 07:10 PM

Facebook strikes again.....

New York Daily News - NY Daily News - New York Daily Newsstory.html

"Several groups of right-wing militias descended on Gettysburg National Park in Pennsylvania on July 4 after conspiracy theory websites spread a quickly debunked rumor that antifa was going to burn American flags at the Civil War battlefield.

"The antifa flag-burning event started on Facebook, and the listing was eventuallyremoved, but not before getting the attention of right-wing websites and social media, along with the rumor’s evolution to include a massacre of white people and burning of homes."

TexaninVA 07-05-2020 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1798520)
Facebook strikes again.....

New York Daily News - NY Daily News - New York Daily Newsstory.html

"Several groups of right-wing militias descended on Gettysburg National Park in Pennsylvania on July 4 after conspiracy theory websites spread a quickly debunked rumor that antifa was going to burn American flags at the Civil War battlefield.

"The antifa flag-burning event started on Facebook, and the listing was eventuallyremoved, but not before getting the attention of right-wing websites and social media, along with the rumor’s evolution to include a massacre of white people and burning of homes."

You may have missed this article ... armed Black protestors about 1,000 strong amass at Stone Mountain ..

I don't know if it made it to Facebook or not since I closed my account a few years ago as it was / is a wasteland IMO>

Armed protesters march through Georgia'''s Stone Mountain Park


...

Bucco 07-06-2020 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1798530)
You may have missed this article ... armed Black protestors about 1,000 strong amass at Stone Mountain ..

I don't know if it made it to Facebook or not since I closed my account a few years ago as it was / is a wasteland IMO>

Armed protesters march through Georgia'''s Stone Mountain Park


...

Which has what to do with Gettysburg ? Or Facebook or Twitter, etc.

And your crowd estimate is just a bit off from reports.


"Stone Mountain Memorial Association spokesman John Bankhead said there were between 100 and 200 protesters. He said the protesters, many of whom carried large rifles, were peaceful."


Armed protesters march through Georgia's Stone Mountain Park

TexaninVA 07-06-2020 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1798590)
Which has what to do with Gettysburg ? Or Facebook or Twitter, etc.

And your crowd estimate is just a bit off from reports.


"Stone Mountain Memorial Association spokesman John Bankhead said there were between 100 and 200 protesters. He said the protesters, many of whom carried large rifles, were peaceful."


Armed protesters march through Georgia's Stone Mountain Park

If you can't see the connection I won't bother trying to explain it to you ...

graciegirl 07-06-2020 10:13 AM

I have seen "FactChecks" on Facebook that I personally was glad to see. When someone issued a statement, quoted from another source that was incorrect, blatantly incorrect, they would put up a "fact checker". Trying to think of an example.

Maybe someone else can. There are many rumors that are spread as fact online that are just plain wrong. FaceBook doesn't issue a "fact check" over someone's opinion but rather over an article that was quoted as fact that was incorrect. Usually not over anything political or religious or really highly controversial. I have seen several people corrected that needed to be corrected...and of course they still thought they were right.

Facebook doesn't do it often. I invite all people frightened to be part of Facebook to try it. It is wonderful to see friends and relatives that you haven't seen in years and pictures of their children and some of it is very annoying as well, as when a family member posts a political meme you don't agree with....... but it is something interesting to do...and not dangerous like some people think. Follow the rules of common sense and don't open private messages on Facebook. I can't help you if you buy things. Just don't buy things and wave to a few cousins who may be like mine and a LOT of fun.

Bucco 07-06-2020 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1798739)
If you can't see the connection I won't bother trying to explain it to you ...

Only connection I see is that Stone Mountain Park has a storied history with white supremacy groups.

"Located just outside of Atlanta, Georgia is a town called Stone Mountain. Since the early 1900s, the Stone Mountain community was used as a site for gatherings for the Ku Klux Klan and other white supremacist activities."

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