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golfing eagles 06-22-2022 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2108942)
US Oil production is open.

I concur with the responder who posted : :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

9,000 parcels of federal land is available for oil companies to LEASE, but the government won't issue any PERMITS to actually drill there. That's like telling a landlord that they can build a new apartment building but they are not allowed to rent the apartments. A 3 month hiatus in the 18 cent/gal. federal tax is like putting a band aid on a chain saw wound. The answer is to open the Keystone pipeline, issue permits for drilling, and tell the ________(fill in the blank) that global warming (due to man's activity) is a myth.

jdulej 06-22-2022 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2109040)
I concur with the responder who posted : :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

9,000 parcels of federal land is available for oil companies to LEASE, but the government won't issue any PERMITS to actually drill there. That's like telling a landlord that they can build a new apartment building but they are not allowed to rent the apartments. A 3 month hiatus in the 18 cent/gal. federal tax is like putting a band aid on a chain saw wound. The answer is to open the Keystone pipeline, issue permits for drilling, and tell the ________(fill in the blank) that global warming (due to man's activity) is a myth.

If the goal is to get the price of gas down, I don't see how sending more dirty Canadian tarsand oil to China will help. US is already a net exporter of gas. Start by blocking that - could do it tomorrow. But, that will do nothing to lower the price of gas, just like more drilling will do nothing. The problem is a demand problem. People want more and don't (yet) care what the price is. Who has not done something they wanted to do, especially after the pandemic, because gas is up? I don't know anyone. Lots of my neighbors are cruising in their RVs out to Colorado or where ever. They grumble, but it does not stop them. Of course the poor, the most powerless, will/are suffering but no one cares about them.
We'll save Global Warming for another day.

drcar 06-22-2022 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2109040)
I concur with the responder who posted : :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

9,000 parcels of federal land is available for oil companies to LEASE, but the government won't issue any PERMITS to actually drill there. That's like telling a landlord that they can build a new apartment building but they are not allowed to rent the apartments. A 3 month hiatus in the 18 cent/gal. federal tax is like putting a band aid on a chain saw wound. The answer is to open the Keystone pipeline, issue permits for drilling, and tell the ________(fill in the blank) that global warming (due to man's activity) is a myth.

LOL, there is not a lack of oil, the refineries are not running full, heck the oil companies are making record profits, they won't change.

Tvflguy 06-22-2022 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by drcar (Post 2109061)
LOL, there is not a lack of oil, the refineries are not running full, heck the oil companies are making record profits, they won't change.

Please provide facts and details on the above.

Topspinmo 06-22-2022 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2108942)
US Oil production is open.


And they sell it on stock market like every other world producers Now refineries pays price and based on that price sets price for gallon of gas.

Topspinmo 06-22-2022 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by drcar (Post 2109061)
LOL, there is not a lack of oil, the refineries are not running full, heck the oil companies
are making record profits, they won't change.

They sell product on stock market, stock market controls prices. Now we can argue over why it goes up fast and comes down slow when price is crud oil drops, but that it.

Crude Oil Prices Today | Brent and WTI Price Charts

billethkid 06-22-2022 05:43 PM

The proposal is testimony that politicians think their constituents are stupid.

I grant that they are most certainly silent.....but not stupid.

Twenty cents off five dollar gas!!!!!!!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

wisbad1 06-22-2022 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2108864)
Stupid idea.

Band Aid with dirt on the pad.

Oh boy! Can’t wait to get my gas rebate card too. Wondering if I can get reparations with it.

Keefelane66 06-22-2022 05:56 PM

Gas prices still aren’t high enough people haven’t adjusted their driving habits still clogging up the highways

Tvflguy 06-22-2022 06:56 PM

Personally I love this. That .18 gallon savings will go towards my fund to buy a new electric car. I’ll be just about 107 when that happens. Thanks!

MartinSE 06-22-2022 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2109097)
Please provide facts and details on the above.

Which part, the oil refineries running at 100%, that Oil companies are making historic profits? They are all in the news.

If they needed more wells, why haven't they drilled ANY of the 1000 permits they already own? Please provide FACTS on that.

I'm Popeye! 06-22-2022 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2108891)
Pandering to people dumb enough to think this is a good idea.

Where does the money come from to fix roads and bridges on road if nobody pays the gas tax?

Is this the beginning of the "Build Back Better" program? :eek:

tophcfa 06-22-2022 09:10 PM

That will make two new ridiculous Federal holidays.

JMintzer 06-22-2022 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2109156)
Which part, the oil refineries running at 100%, that Oil companies are making historic profits? They are all in the news.

If they needed more wells, why haven't they drilled ANY of the 1000 permits they already own? Please provide FACTS on that.

And lord knows, "The News" has never lied to us...

mtdjed 06-22-2022 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jdulej (Post 2109060)
If the goal is to get the price of gas down, I don't see how sending more dirty Canadian tarsand oil to China will help. US is already a net exporter of gas. Start by blocking that - could do it tomorrow. But, that will do nothing to lower the price of gas, just like more drilling will do nothing. The problem is a demand problem. People want more and don't (yet) care what the price is. Who has not done something they wanted to do, especially after the pandemic, because gas is up? I don't know anyone. Lots of my neighbors are cruising in their RVs out to Colorado or where ever. They grumble, but it does not stop them. Of course the poor, the most powerless, will/are suffering but no one cares about them.
We'll save Global Warming for another day.

Are you talking about oil or gas? That being natural gas vs gasoline. I see where the US exports more Gasoline now than before. If we are exporting more gasolene , that would seem to suggest that the industry comments that we do not have capacity may be exaggerated. Since exports are somewhat controlled by the government, why wouldn't the administration simply not approve the export, thus making more gasoline available in the USA? That would increase the supply side of the equation.


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