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camaguey48 06-10-2020 06:08 AM

These four officers should never been allowed to hold a paper clip, let alone a gun. I support the good police officers and I tell them every chance I get.

njkonczal@gmail.com 06-10-2020 06:09 AM

What’s on my mind?

If Floyd hadn’t received a plea deal only serving 5 years in prison (2009) for a first degree felony (normally 20 year sentence), he would still be “in prison”, STILL ALIVE AND ALL THE MAYHEM THAN ENSUED FROM HIS CHOICE TO HAND A COUNTERFEIT BILL TO A STORE OWNER WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED!!!!!!!!!

Swoop 06-10-2020 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Ginpappas (Post 1780951)
A man was murdered on video in broad daylight for possibly passing a phony 20 bill. He was not currently in jail, there was no warrant for his arrest - he was a free man in a vehicle. He was then handcuffed and sat against a wall, after a struggle in the back seat of a police cruiser he was taken out of the car and laid on the ground where he then had a knee placed on his neck for 8 min and 46 sec until he died. That is murder at the hands of a corrupt, criminal cop who had many many complaints brought against him. But you want to talk about George Floyd's criminal record only... How interesting. I can appreciate you thought it was over the top and dramatic but this death was the straw that broke the camels back in this country and we may finally see some real change. Just another opinion.

Were you equally outraged when Tony Timpa was murdered?

Denvercane 06-10-2020 06:16 AM

7 career people were murdered that day. One was a career criminal and six were career police officers. Can you name them.? Pelosi calls one of the a martyr and kneels down before him. Six died protecting people, one died robbing people, all dead, all murdered. Why does one deserve so much more than the other six? Was his life more important, was he a better citizen.? This country is upside down and people aren't going to like the future that is being formed. Trouble and termoil are in the future. Tearing down statues, rioting and looting are going to become a way of life. If you want something, kill and take it.

Byte1 06-10-2020 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Ginpappas (Post 1780951)
A man was murdered on video in broad daylight for possibly passing a phony 20 bill. He was not currently in jail, there was no warrant for his arrest - he was a free man in a vehicle. He was then handcuffed and sat against a wall, after a struggle in the back seat of a police cruiser he was taken out of the car and laid on the ground where he then had a knee placed on his neck for 8 min and 46 sec until he died. That is murder at the hands of a corrupt, criminal cop who had many many complaints brought against him. But you want to talk about George Floyd's criminal record only... How interesting. I can appreciate you thought it was over the top and dramatic but this death was the straw that broke the camels back in this country and we may finally see some real change. Just another opinion.

The procedure taught to most officers of the law when making apprehensions of violent individuals is to get the resisting suspect onto the ground and restrain him while handcuffing him, or limiting his violence. It is for the safety of the officers and the suspect. All of the officers had it right, according to what I saw EXCEPT the one kneeling on Floyd's neck. That was improper but not necessarily a criminal act. To label this a murder, there has to be intent to deprive one of their life. I have not seen any evidence YET to suggest that there was any intent other than making an arrest. To label a person performing his duty, regardless of the procedure and with no indication YET that there was evil intent, is doing exactly what accusers have been doing for days, trying the officers and judging the officers in the public arena without a trial. Many suggest that Floyd was judged and executed without a trial, and yet they do the same with the police.

Interesting point that I would like to spotlight: Floyd's brother said that he watched his brother growing up and learned how NOT to act and what not to do. I guess to some, that makes Floyd a good example for his brother. To some of us, it was a shame that he did not get his day in court AGAIN. I do know for a fact that he would not have died during his arrest if he had not given any reason to be arrested. Likely as not, he would still either be dead or on his way to end his life via his lifestyle. Anyone making a martyr out of him is simply making a ridiculous fool of themselves. He was a criminal and a thug. And before one criticizes me for using the term "thug" let me assure you that I did so purposely, and I do not care if that offends some sensitive folks that I consider to be disingenuous. I never claimed to be PC and to be quite clear, I am too old to institute PC into my lifestyle now. If that offends someone, that is their problem. What some find offensive, I find funny. That is why I am happier than them.

Ginpappas 06-10-2020 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1781091)
Were you equally outraged when Tony Timpa was murdered?

I just read about Tony Timpa - I didn't know about him and there is no video showing him being murdered in broad daylight by a man who believed there would be no consequences. I don't know how Tony Timpa died in police custody - I do know that Chauvin is not the only corrupt cop in America so it wouldn't surprise me if a police officer had something to do with Tony Timpa's death... Your question makes me wonder if you think I'm not outraged about Tony because he was white? And the answer is yes, I'm outraged every time someone dies at the hands of those who should be "serving and protecting"

Swoop 06-10-2020 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 1781039)
I agree that funerals are for the living. And in that sense, the funeral was befitting as it honored a man who was senselessly murdered but whose murder has opened our eyes to the continuing racial injustice that has occurred for generations in this country. His murder has been a call for change. Thousands and thousands of people are protesting all across the country as well as in other countries against police brutality and institutionalized racism. It is a reminder that we cannot continue down this path. Police reforms are necessary. Law enforcement must meet basic standards of honor and decency. In this case, and in many others that have been documented involving people of color, those standards have not been met, and that needs to change. I'm hoping this is a wakeup call for our young people, because they are the ones that will need to vote and enact change, not entitled old white people.

If a black man is killed by a cop, it’s police brutality, it’s institutional racism, it’s systematic racism or any other divisive term you choose. If a white man is killed, you and the media ignore it because it doesn’t fit your agenda.

Swoop 06-10-2020 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ginpappas (Post 1781114)
I just read about Tony Timpa - I didn't know about him and there is no video showing him being murdered in broad daylight by a man who believed there would be no consequences. I don't know how Tony Timpa died in police custody - I do know that Chauvin is not the only corrupt cop in America so it wouldn't surprise me if a police officer had something to do with Tony Timpa's death... Your question makes me wonder if you think I'm not outraged about Tony because he was white? And the answer is yes, I'm outraged every time someone dies at the hands of those who should be "serving and protecting"

There is absolutely a video. A cop kneeled on his neck for over ten minutes and after he was lifeless, they joked about possibility killing him. The reason you haven’t seen the video before, is that no national news networks picked up the story, because it didn’t fit their narrative.
Dallas Police body cameras show moment Tony Timpa stopped breathing - YouTube

Byte1 06-10-2020 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by njkonczal@gmail.com (Post 1781087)
What’s on my mind?

If Floyd hadn’t received a plea deal only serving 5 years in prison (2009) for a first degree felony (normally 20 year sentence), he would still be “in prison”, STILL ALIVE AND ALL THE MAYHEM THAN ENSUED FROM HIS CHOICE TO HAND A COUNTERFEIT BILL TO A STORE OWNER WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED!!!!!!!!!

I agree. It is the lenient court system that caused this man to die, because if they would have kept him incarcerated, he would still be alive and a continuing burden on the taxpayer. But, even in his death he has continued to spread misery. Business owners and property owners have lost millions and some have been injured or killed due to the results of this guy's lifestyle. The only ones benefiting from his death will probably be his family and their lawyers that will undoubtedly make big money out of exploiting it.

Byte1 06-10-2020 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 1781039)
I agree that funerals are for the living. And in that sense, the funeral was befitting as it honored a man who was senselessly murdered but whose murder has opened our eyes to the continuing racial injustice that has occurred for generations in this country. His murder has been a call for change. Thousands and thousands of people are protesting all across the country as well as in other countries against police brutality and institutionalized racism. It is a reminder that we cannot continue down this path. Police reforms are necessary. Law enforcement must meet basic standards of honor and decency. In this case, and in many others that have been documented involving people of color, those standards have not been met, and that needs to change. I'm hoping this is a wakeup call for our young people, because they are the ones that will need to vote and enact change, not entitled old white people.

Other than the perp being black and two of the four officers being white, I did not see anything to indicate that this was related to anyone being "racist." I guess some folks wish to conclude this without evidence, in order to further their narrative, but saying something does not make it fact.
Please define "entitled old white people" for me, if you don't mind. I am curious to see if I know any of them.

jerseyjoy 06-10-2020 06:53 AM

It reminded me of Princess Diana's funeral.

cmbrown915@gmail.com 06-10-2020 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ginpappas (Post 1780951)
A man was murdered on video in broad daylight for possibly passing a phony 20 bill. He was not currently in jail, there was no warrant for his arrest - he was a free man in a vehicle. He was then handcuffed and sat against a wall, after a struggle in the back seat of a police cruiser he was taken out of the car and laid on the ground where he then had a knee placed on his neck for 8 min and 46 sec until he died. That is murder at the hands of a corrupt, criminal cop who had many many complaints brought against him. But you want to talk about George Floyd's criminal record only... How interesting. I can appreciate you thought it was over the top and dramatic but this death was the straw that broke the camels back in this country and we may finally see some real change. Just another opinion.

Thanks for your clear and wise comment.

Byte1 06-10-2020 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by smacquart (Post 1781077)
Yes! People please check out Chauvin’s police record before before condemning George Floyd.

Even though the officer's record may have something to do with answering questions about how heavy handed he is with suspects, that does not change or affect Floyd's criminality or his record. Floyd obviously "condemned" himself.

Byte1 06-10-2020 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1780982)
If the Special interest groups want to make a spectacle that's fine.

But for the media to cover it as though it was a dignitary of lofty proportions......was more than over the top.

Angel wings and halo. The ultimate symbol to top off the over the top-ness!!

Undeserved/unreal!

I am disappointed that FOX cable broadcasted the funeral of the thug. When I was flipping the channel for some entertainment to view, I hesitated on FOX thinking that some important politician had passed and was being honored. What a joke! Bet Capt Dorn's funeral will not be televised. I can understand when the liberal media makes a big deal out of this pathetic exploitation, but FOX? Unbelievable!

jbrown132 06-10-2020 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1781021)
Some people say that funerals are for the living. I think that the focus and elaborateness of a funeral should reflect on the impact that a person's life had on the people he knew and interacted with while he was alive. But, I doubt that many of the people who attended and/or watched the funeral even knew George Floyd. So, in that sense, the funeral missed the mark.

Wonder you paid for it. May tell us a lot.


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