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UpNorth 04-12-2024 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by alwann (Post 2320815)
Darn, I was really hoping for a death-bed confession.

He did. He confessed to killing Jeffrey Epstein.:laugh:

skippy05 04-12-2024 11:43 AM

So many first stone casters. Likely he was really guilty of murder and more, but what about the terrible things we have all done? Perhaps not murder, but just as evil in other ways. Ironically at first, but in reality not, even his sins were able to be fully covered by Grace. But, did he ever ask, is the only question. Humanly, seemingly unfair but amazingly, mercifully, available to all.

Tvflguy 04-12-2024 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy05 (Post 2321088)
So many first stone casters. Likely he was really guilty of murder and more, but what about the terrible things we have all done? Perhaps not murder, but just as evil in other ways. Ironically at first, but in reality not, even his sins were able to be fully covered by Grace. But, did he ever ask, is the only question. Humanly, seemingly unfair but amazingly, mercifully, available to all.

Hmmm. Yep I’m a “first stone caster”. Haven’t killed anyone to my knowledge. Didn’t need to hire a Dream Team to defend me. So no mercy from me. You seem to be a religious person, showing forgiveness. Sorry, the Ten Commandments apply here. OJ is residing in Hell right now

manaboutown 04-12-2024 02:06 PM

I'm with Kato. Kato Kaelin: '''I really believe''' O.J. Simpson '''is guilty''' | Fox News Video

JMintzer 04-12-2024 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pballer (Post 2320811)
Now that he is dead, who will take over looking for the real killer?

He can now rest easy, knowing the "real killer" is dead...

JMintzer 04-12-2024 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by maggie1 (Post 2320897)
Truly one of the most miscarriages of justice this country has ever seen. All things displaying his guilt were there until "If the glove don't fit, you must acquit" ala Johnny Cochran. Of course it didn't fit, it had dried up and shrunk, but even if it hadn't the jury was not about to convict their hero. I still remember the celebration in the streets when the "Not Guilty" was announced, and the looks on the faces of Simpson's attorneys Bob Kardashian and Bob Shapiro told a "You got to be kidding me" story.

It's obvious that there were no golfers on the jury...

They understand that a wet (and bloody) glove will shrink and have to be stretched to get back on...

Add to that, he tried it on OVER a latex glove, didn't really try very hard to put it on and it was reported he had stopped taking his arthritis meds so his hands were swollen...

It was his best acting performance since the Naked Gun movies...

JMintzer 04-12-2024 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by phylt (Post 2320960)
I so remember watching at the time of the 'glove-fitting'. During that, I thought to myself, how could the prosecution allow this? No doubt the blood-soaked gloves shrunk and are stiff. And he was wearing rubber gloves. ?????????????? Then the acting job trying to pull them on, showing it off, and smirking.

Recently it came out that Johhnie Cocran had OJ stop taking his arthritis meds so his knuckles would swell. Best defense $$$ could buy.

"if it doesn't fit... he's still full of shxt.

Then after the verdict, TV showing the spilt-screen ---- shock vs joy....

IIRC, it was the prosecution who asked for him to try on the gloves... Dumb move...

They already had a receipt from Bloomingdales showing he bought the very same pair of gloves (same with the Bruno Magli shoes he was wearing that night that left footprints...)

JMintzer 04-12-2024 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2321054)
Prosecutors kept pushing the "his DNA was all over the crime scene" narrative. It was his house, so of course, his DNA will be everywhere. That proves nothing.
The defense kept connecting that over-reach to every other piece of evidence they presented. The jury started questioning everything else, wondering what other lies were coming from the prosecutors. The lack of chain of custody of evidence, the conclusions that were not reasonably substantiated by that (now questionable) evidence, the constant hype over the crime scene. Even the famous gloves that shrunk - because they got wet, and the prosecution was clueless.

So the trial did not prove his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Case closed.

Many believe he did it, many do not. One side will never convince the other side.

It was Nicole's house. He did not live there... There was no reason his DNA should have been "all over the crime scene"...

And the DNA was in the blood samples outside of the home...

Dusty_Star 04-12-2024 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy05 (Post 2321088)
So many first stone casters. Likely he was really guilty of murder and more, but what about the terrible things we have all done? Perhaps not murder, but just as evil in other ways. Ironically at first, but in reality not, even his sins were able to be fully covered by Grace. But, did he ever ask, is the only question. Humanly, seemingly unfair but amazingly, mercifully, available to all.


Sorry, Maybe I'm a goody two shoes, but WHAT TERRIBLE THINGS have I done????? I would really like to know & since you are accusing ALL of us, then a generic list of our gross misdeeds will do.

JMintzer 04-12-2024 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2321157)
Sorry, Maybe I'm a goody two shoes, but WHAT TERRIBLE THINGS have I done????? I would really like to know & since you are accusing ALL of us, then a generic list of our gross misdeeds will do.

I jaywalked a few times and got a few speeding tickets...

Stu from NYC 04-12-2024 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2321141)
IIRC, it was the prosecution who asked for him to try on the gloves... Dumb move...

They already had a receipt from Bloomingdales showing he bought the very same pair of gloves (same with the Bruno Magli shoes he was wearing that night that left footprints...)

The prosecutors should get the stupid prosecution award of the year for how they made their case.

Stu from NYC 04-12-2024 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2320968)
Lots of mixed feelings on this one.

My own thoughts mirror a lot of the ones expressed here. I too think he probably got away with murder, and that the "not guilty" verdict was more a reflection of expert jury selection and a defense team who knew how to talk to that jury, than it was a reflection of the facts. But I don't KNOW that, and the folks who do know more than I do made the decision.

On a larger scale, it does point out what I see as a significant weak point of our justice system, and that is media influence on the outcome. I'm not talking about the notorious Court Of Public Opinion--THOSE folks had OJ either outfitted for wings and a halo, or tried, convicted, drawn and quartered all before be blood dried. But over-the-top media "coverage" coupled with judges who seem dead set against granting changes of venue (the judge gets a lot of face time on these sensationalistic trials too, and human nature being what it is...) all too often seem to mean more than the facts.

In any case, it is over and he's gone. R.I.P., OJ: you certainly didn't have very much peace when you were alive.

Didnt deserve any peace while he was alive after what almost all of us feel he got away with.

Taltarzac725 04-12-2024 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by New Englander (Post 2320810)
OJ is in Hell. Where he belongs.

No one knows what happens after you die unless you believe in the occult, ghosts, etc. And every culture has had its own versions of heaven and hell. We will all find out soon enough. No need to rush things.

A reading of The Bible 's "New Testament" does suggest that if you are honest about repentence for your sins that you will go to Heaven. So OJ Simpson could be there and you could ask him what he did on earth.

badkarma318 04-12-2024 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RedChariot (Post 2320975)
GOOD RIDDANCE YOU SLIME BUCKET. How does that jury look themselves in the mirror!!! It was black payback. Wonder what they would say today. I lost respect for every member of the dream team. They defended who they KNEW was guilty. OJ slaughtered them.

Just watched a clip from an interview with one of the jurors - she stated that they knew O.J. killed Nicole and Ron, but let him off for revenge (Rodney King). All of the evidence, witnesses, experts, decisions the prosecution made, Johnnie Cochran's BS, etc. meant absolutely nothing - this was about race, period.

"The final jury for the trial had 10 women and 2 men, of whom 9 were black, 1 hispanic, and 2 white." This is the one and only reason O.J. got off.

The jury for his civil trial was mostly white, and they found him liable. Case(s) closed.

Buckeye Bill 04-13-2024 07:25 AM

Think the real killer just died!!!!!! 😂

Battlebasset 04-13-2024 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by skippy05 (Post 2321088)
So many first stone casters. Likely he was really guilty of murder and more, but what about the terrible things we have all done? Perhaps not murder, but just as evil in other ways. Ironically at first, but in reality not, even his sins were able to be fully covered by Grace. But, did he ever ask, is the only question. Humanly, seemingly unfair but amazingly, mercifully, available to all.

You are correct. Grace is available to all, regardless of what one has done, or not done.

However, the commentary here on OJ is about how he escaped man's justice on earth. And I, and the majority of others, believe he did. And ironically, his lack of receiving justice on earth most likely stopped him from seeking the grace that would have allowed him to avoid receiving his just reward after death. After all, he got away with it. No need to think about it anymore.

I would also say that you would have a hard time today finding anyone that still believes he didn't do it. I would say half the people cheering his acquittal 30 years ago believed he did it, but because of their warped idea of justice, didn't care. You still see that today, which is sad.

Marmaduke 04-13-2024 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2321104)
Hmmm. Yep I’m a “first stone caster”. Haven’t killed anyone to my knowledge. Didn’t need to hire a Dream Team to defend me. So no mercy from me. You seem to be a religious person, showing forgiveness. Sorry, the Ten Commandments apply here. OJ is residing in Hell right now

First Stone caster here on O.J. too, and his creepozoid lawyers who are probably all burning in the flames together now!!!

O.J. is stinking up hell for all time.
No one wants to end up THERE next to that scumbag and his lawyers. Jury may still have time to repent.

His TRUE Judgement Day had arrived this week.
AND, THERE WAS NO SIDEBAR.

Regorp 04-13-2024 08:14 AM

O. J.
 
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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2320795)
He was both a great running back and total scumbag. I will never forget him terrorizing the Patriots with 200+ yard rushing games when he played for the Bills.

Always enjoyed the way he owned the hated NE Patriots. RIP!!

ithos 04-13-2024 09:41 AM

Payback for Rodney King
 
The change of venue probably caused the makeup of the jury made a conviction much more challenging. Not sure of the reason. I remember a commentary from a pundit that it was because the DA thought it would be better for media exposure. But their were other opinions.

And I believe with Mark Fuhrman as a key witness and the Rodney King death trial, the prosecution case was doomed with 9 blacks on the jury regardless of the evidence.
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O.J. Simpson Juror Admits That They Believed He Was Guilty, But Let Him Off As "Payback" For Rodney King
One of O.J. Simpson's jurors revealed that 90% of them believed the murder suspect was guilty, but they let him off as "payback" for Rodney King's case.
OJ Juror: We Acquitted Because Of Rodney King - YouTube

manaboutown 04-13-2024 09:58 AM

Goldman, Brown families could be first in line for OJ Simpson'''s assets | AP News

ithos 04-13-2024 10:11 AM

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A former black panther was on the jury who gave a black power fist after the trial.
OJ Simpson juror Lionel Cryer who raised fist as he left court was a former Black Panther | Daily Mail Online

New Englander 04-13-2024 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2320995)
Not sure what you are writing. The jury found a reasonable doubt. The prosecutors did not prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. Emphasis on reasonable. Not all doubt.

The jury was not going to convict him even if there was a video of him butchering those two people.

Stu from NYC 04-13-2024 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by New Englander (Post 2321335)
The jury was not going to convict him even if there was a video of him butchering those two people.

How in the world did the prosecution team not put in some effort to vet the jury?

ithos 04-13-2024 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2321349)
How in the world did the prosecution team not put in some effort to vet the jury?

It was in downtown LA so getting an unbiased jury was not going to be easy. Also after the Rodney King riots, the DA office was probably worried about negative publicity if the jury chosen did not reflect the racial makeup of the area. Remember the Rodney King trial had ten whites and no blacks.
Jury Picked for King Trial; No Blacks Chosen - Los Angeles Times

Stu from NYC 04-13-2024 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ithos (Post 2321351)
It was in downtown LA so getting an unbiased jury was not going to be easy. Also after the Rodney King riots, the DA office was probably worried about negative publicity if the jury chosen did not reflect the racial makeup of the area. Remember the Rodney King trial had ten whites and no blacks.
Jury Picked for King Trial; No Blacks Chosen - Los Angeles Times

But having only a couple of whites and almost all blacks was a huge mistake. Did not reflect the racial makeup of LA at all.

manaboutown 04-13-2024 12:40 PM

Anybody else see a pic of O.J.'s White Bronco Hearse on X?

ithos 04-13-2024 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2321356)
But having only a couple of whites and almost all blacks was a huge mistake. Did not reflect the racial makeup of LA at all.

You are right.
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The Downtown courthouse draws the majority of its jurors from the Central District, an area with a jury pool that is about 30% white, 31% black and 29% Latino. The boundaries of the Central District are the Ventura Freeway in Glendale to the north, Manchester Avenue to the South, La Cienega to the west and the outskirts of Montebello to the east.
Simpson Jury Pool Racially Mixed - Los Angeles Times

But the prosecutors lacked the fortitude to make more challenges or they were over confident about the case.

JMintzer 04-13-2024 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ithos (Post 2321323)
The change of venue probably caused the makeup of the jury made a conviction much more challenging. Not sure of the reason. I remember a commentary from a pundit that it was because the DA thought it would be better for media exposure. But their were other opinions.

And I believe with Mark Fuhrman as a key witness and the Rodney King death trial, the prosecution case was doomed with 9 blacks on the jury regardless of the evidence.

Rodney King "death trial"???

He died by drowning 20 years later...

ithos 04-13-2024 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2321384)
Rodney King "death trial"???

He died by drowning 20 years later...

You are right.

"Can't we all get along?"
Been a long time.

BettyInFL 04-13-2024 06:25 PM

Good Ridance, and may he rot in Hell!
 
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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2320788)
I wonder how much of their $33,500,000 judgment against O.J. the Goldmans actually collected?

I read very little, $188,000.

It seems he died with a $3M net worth.

Shows how our judicial system has gone to the dogs. OJ Jury people admitting that they voted not guilty for pay back for Rodney King.

Taltarzac725 04-13-2024 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BettyInFL (Post 2321406)
Shows how our judicial system has gone to the dogs. OJ Jury people admitting that they voted not guilty for pay back for Rodney King.

I would take this with a gallon of salt. Sounds like something you would see on Faux News.

Stu from NYC 04-13-2024 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2321421)
I would take this with a gallon of salt. Sounds like something you would see on Faux News.

I can believe it, from what I saw and heard of the trial no question he was as guilty as sin

manaboutown 04-13-2024 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2321421)
I would take this with a gallon of salt. Sounds like something you would see on Faux News.

Jurors who were going to let the vile murderer OJ off the hook no matter the facts should have been disqualified during voir dire. The trial was a disgraceful disgusting fiasco.

mike234 04-14-2024 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by New Englander (Post 2321335)
The jury was not going to convict him even if there was a video of him butchering those two people.

correct

JMintzer 04-14-2024 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2321421)
I would take this with a gallon of salt. Sounds like something you would see on Faux News.

Everybody drink!

JMintzer 04-14-2024 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2321421)
I would take this with a gallon of salt. Sounds like something you would see on Faux News.

I also saw it on MSLSD and CNN (the Comic News Network)...

Stu from NYC 04-14-2024 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2321625)
I also saw it on MSLSD and CNN (the Comic News Network)...

I thought cnn was the communist news network?

JMintzer 04-14-2024 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2321636)
I thought cnn was the communist news network?

That's another of several monikers... I would have used another one, but I didn't feel like another "vacation"...

MDLNB 04-15-2024 07:46 AM

Justice served....finally.

Taltarzac725 04-15-2024 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2321753)
Justice served....finally.

People should read the New Testament which is a huge favorite in prison. Especially about the parts concerning redemption.


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