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manaboutown 08-06-2022 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2123229)
And I think someone put it in her suitcase to get on Putin's good side with the firestorm it would create. Or Putin goons engineered it.

She admitted she put it in her suitcase. She pleaded guilty.

"Griner had admitted having the vape cartridges containing hashish oil..."

From: Russia sentences Griner to 9 years in prison, White House calls for her release | Reuters

Taltarzac725 08-06-2022 01:53 PM

She made a different statement a week or so ago.

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In her testimony last week, Griner said she was puzzled about how the vape cartridges had ended up in her luggage.

“I still don’t understand to this day how they ended up in my bag,” she told the court on July 27. “If I had to guess on how they ended up in my bags, I was in a rush packing.”
Russian court jails Griner for nine years; US calls for release | Russia-Ukraine war News | Al Jazeera

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2123231)
She admitted she put it in her suitcase. She pleaded guilty.

"Griner had admitted having the vape cartridges containing hashish oil..."

From: Russia sentences Griner to 9 years in prison, White House calls for her release | Reuters


dsgreen3 08-06-2022 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2123135)
I have a feeling if she was white, definitely would be a different story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=537ddnPR93c

lpkruege1 08-06-2022 02:07 PM

Face it, If it was anyone of us, would the government care? Play stupid games and win stupid prizes. It's like carrying a banned weapon to anyone of our airports. You go to jail. Understand the country's laws you're traveling to. Singapore canes people. You can also be arrested for littering, spitting and jaywalking and fined for failure to flush the toilet.
For some drug offenses, there is mandatory death penalty.

Officials do not distinguish between drugs consumed before entering the country or those taken in Singapore.

The police are able to force both residents and non-residents to submit to random drug testing.

manaboutown 08-06-2022 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2123208)
Anti-American by whose definition? Some wag on FOX? Someone like Martin Luther King, Jr. would applaud it as being very American.

This guy? The plagiarist, alleged womanizer and alleged woman abuser? Whose original birth certificate first name was Michael, not Martin?

"King’s far-from monogamous lifestyle, like his binge-drinking, may fit albeit uncomfortably within his existing life story, but the suggestion—actually more than one—that he either actively tolerated or personally employed violence against any woman, even while drunk, poses so fundamental a challenge to his historical stature as to require the most complete and extensive historical review possible."

From: https://www.davidgarrow.com/wp-conte...dpoint2019.pdf

50 years on, what they won’t tell you about Dr. Martin Luther King Jr… Like How He Plagiarized the overly romanticized ‘I Have A Dream’ Speech - St. Lucia News From The Voice

and his dissertation, too. Boston U. Panel Finds Plagiarism by Dr. King - The New York Times

Taltarzac725 08-06-2022 02:29 PM

Wow. What a revelation. You can find all kinds of junk about people online. Publix check-out stand kind of stuff.



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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2123240)
This guy? The plagiarist, alleged womanizer and alleged woman abuser? Whose original birth certificate first name was Michael, not Martin?

"King’s far-from monogamous lifestyle, like his binge-drinking, may fit albeit uncomfortably within his existing life story, but the suggestion—actually more than one—that he either actively tolerated or personally employed violence against any woman, even while drunk, poses so fundamental a challenge to his historical stature as to require the most complete and extensive historical review possible."

From: https://www.davidgarrow.com/wp-conte...dpoint2019.pdf

50 years on, what they won’t tell you about Dr. Martin Luther King Jr… Like How He Plagiarized the overly romanticized ‘I Have A Dream’ Speech - St. Lucia News From The Voice

and his dissertation, too. Boston U. Panel Finds Plagiarism by Dr. King - The New York Times


manaboutown 08-06-2022 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2123244)
Wow. What a revelation. You can find all kinds of junk about people online. Publix check-out stand kind of stuff.

Like The Gray Lady, the NYT? A Pulitzer Prize winning author? His Martin Luther King Biography Was a Classic. His Latest King Piece Is Causing a Furor. - The New York Times

Maybe.

But probably not the University study by BU.

BTW these are demonstrable facts.

jimjamuser 08-06-2022 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2123231)
She admitted she put it in her suitcase. She pleaded guilty.

"Griner had admitted having the vape cartridges containing hashish oil..."

From: Russia sentences Griner to 9 years in prison, White House calls for her release | Reuters

The article quoted in that post said that Brittany "inadvertently" packed the illegal substance in her suitcase. That is different than saying that she "admitted" packing the illegal substance. If you are unaware that you packed something, that is the same as "inadvertently" packing something. People all over the world are "inadvertently" packing things that they don't know is in their suitcases. That is why so many guns are found in suitcases in airports. Basically, people make mistakes. That's what people do!

jimjamuser 08-06-2022 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2123231)
She admitted she put it in her suitcase. She pleaded guilty.

"Griner had admitted having the vape cartridges containing hashish oil..."

From: Russia sentences Griner to 9 years in prison, White House calls for her release | Reuters

I am not sure that she even has a good lawyer or any lawyer to advise her correctly. And it doesn't EVEN matter because Russian courts convict 99.5 % of all defendants. And there was probably GREAT pressure on her to get a conviction. What I can't possibly understand is WHY so many here are so going out of their way to trash her as if she had just strangled their 1st born son? I realize that residents of TV Land prefer golf and baseball to basketball, but, that can't be the ONLY reason.

jimjamuser 08-06-2022 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2123240)
This guy? The plagiarist, alleged womanizer and alleged woman abuser? Whose original birth certificate first name was Michael, not Martin?

"King’s far-from monogamous lifestyle, like his binge-drinking, may fit albeit uncomfortably within his existing life story, but the suggestion—actually more than one—that he either actively tolerated or personally employed violence against any woman, even while drunk, poses so fundamental a challenge to his historical stature as to require the most complete and extensive historical review possible."

From: https://www.davidgarrow.com/wp-conte...dpoint2019.pdf

50 years on, what they won’t tell you about Dr. Martin Luther King Jr… Like How He Plagiarized the overly romanticized ‘I Have A Dream’ Speech - St. Lucia News From The Voice

and his dissertation, too. Boston U. Panel Finds Plagiarism by Dr. King - The New York Times

And perhaps that answers my question about why so much ANTAGONISM here towards a lady basketball player?

HRDave 08-06-2022 05:27 PM

Seriously!!!
 
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Originally Posted by YeOldeCurmudgeon (Post 2123115)
What a crock. The national anthem represents more than just the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. It also represent 400 years of racism and a century of imperialism and imposing our power and influence on other nations -- which is why I detest the national anthem and "its rockets red glare and bombs bursting in air," which represents a nation of violence and is being reflected today as we speak. How much better to have "America the Beautiful with brotherhood from sea to shining sea" as our anthem.

I think it’s time you went back to the PRC or DPRK from whence you came. 😎

bimmertl 08-06-2022 05:29 PM

Looks like a lot of people are upset Griner is apparently anti American. If you really want to be upset about being anti American, look no further than right here in the Villages.

Griner did nothing compared to Villages own retired Navy Captain David Lausman, a convicted felon facing 20 years in prison. He accepted bribes while a Captain in the US Navy.

So let's here the outrage over this clown!


Villages man charged in Navy bribery scandal - Orlando Sentinel

Rainger99 08-06-2022 07:39 PM

This has gotten off topic!

tophcfa 08-06-2022 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by YeOldeCurmudgeon (Post 2123115)
What a crock. The national anthem represents more than just the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. It also represent 400 years of racism and a century of imperialism and imposing our power and influence on other nations -- which is why I detest the national anthem and "its rockets red glare and bombs bursting in air," which represents a nation of violence and is being reflected today as we speak. How much better to have "America the Beautiful with brotherhood from sea to shining sea" as our anthem.

Where is the thumbs down button?

tvbound 08-06-2022 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by YeOldeCurmudgeon (Post 2123115)
What a crock. The national anthem represents more than just the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. It also represent 400 years of racism and a century of imperialism and imposing our power and influence on other nations -- which is why I detest the national anthem and "its rockets red glare and bombs bursting in air," which represents a nation of violence and is being reflected today as we speak. How much better to have "America the Beautiful with brotherhood from sea to shining sea" as our anthem.

"It also represent 400 years of racism and a century of imperialism and imposing our power and influence on other nations..."

You are absolutely correct. In my lifelong goal of trying to constantly educate myself and increase my knowledge, I'm often staggered by the true/actual/complete history of ours (and most other countries) - that I never learned from 'formal education.'


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