[OrangeBlossomBaby]

No podcasts for me, I need to see the people who are speaking, or have closed captions. My brain isn't good at listening to voices when my eyes can't see their faces. I'm the same way on the phone; I can't stand talking on it for more than a few minutes at a time.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Pballer

You came to the wrong state for this.

Nonsense...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

If the teaching of history was color blind, we would not have learned about Rosa Parks. She is known BECAUSE she was a black activist. If she were a white activist, she wouldn't have become the tipping point of the Civil Rights Movement. If Martin Luther King, Jr. wasn't black, he wouldn't have been nearly as influential as he became - and probably wouldn't have been assassinated.

Many things have happened in this country -because- this or that person, group of people, church, school, child, was black.

How do you think the Civil War would've gone, if the slaves were all white Irish instead of black African?

Somebody completely missed the point...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

History should absolutely -not- be color blind. It should be inclusive, not exclusive. Atrocities were committed on a variety of peoples throughout history, American, European, World - of all races, all Nationalities, all religions, all ethnicities, all genders, disabilities, abilities, sexual preferences, marital status, lack of marital status. We need to accept these histories, learn OF them, and learn FROM them.

Otherwise it'll just continue to happen. Maybe black folks will be the "target du jour" again once we're done with the transgender trend. Or maybe all those anti-abortion nuts will start targeting women who don't have children, and start a brand new tirade a la Handmaid's Tale, berating them for not marrying and whelping the next generation. Or maybe they'll come back to the Jews. Or maybe it'll be the Irish again. Or the Italians again. Or maybe old people again.

Round and round it goes, where it stops, everyone knows. As long as we say "let's not talk about that, it is unpleasant and hey look how great we are now!" we will continue the cycle.

No one ever suggested "let's not talk about that"...

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

No one ever suggested "let's not talk about that"...

Very true, we should be talking about all of our history not just one group.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Only one group was subjected to kidnapping from another country, imported to this country, for the exclusive purpose of being used as chattel and breed-mares for plantations and construction to build this country, then after an entire war broke out to fight against this, became freed, and only two years later after they were officially free, did word get to an entire state to let them know that they had been freed two years prior.

So yeah - it's pandering to one group. When this happens to you, we can pander to your group too.

The Irish Slaves have entered the chat...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Seriously, is that the best you got? Chinese were brought here against their will, wanna give them their own holiday.

Lots of other groups had a real tough time when they got, Jews, Italians, Irish and on and on. Give them all their own days?

I wouldn't mind a day... Maybe Passover... But let the Italians cater it...

Sebastian Maniscalco says it best...

https://youtu.be/5KQgRn4j-DE

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I'd be fine with getting rid of Christmas as a Federal holiday. Why are we pandering to one group? Why don't we have Eid as a Federal holiday? Why not Yom Kippur? Why not Beltane? Every religion has its "big deal Holy days" but only Christians get an automatic paid day off or bonus pay for working it, and don't have to use up personal time for the privilege.

I wish we could get rid of Thanksgiving and Easter and every other friggin holiday and birthday that falls in between the two. That way my wife wouldn’t insist on being up north so she could see the kids and we could spent the entire time between November 1st until the end of April at our Villages home. And while I’m hoping and wishing, taxes shouldn’t need to be filed until July 15th. How good would that be : )

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

You're missing the point. Each religion has its own Holy day, where they need to take a day off from work. Jewish bank employees don't get a day off on Yom Kippur if that day falls on a Wednesday. They have to request it in advance, and use up a personal day - something Christian bankers don't have to do, if they want Christmas off. They get it off, with pay. A free Holy day for them, while everyone else has to "pay" for theirs by using up a personal day, or vacation pay. Or in some cases, they have to take a day off without getting paid at all. While Christians get the day off with pay, because it is customarily a paid holiday on a federal level.

This is total BS based on what I have experienced. The Jews with whom I worked were given paid religious holidays in addition to our normal holidays.

[Sabella]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

How is it that we disagree with something and all you can say is we are bigots. So if you disagree with something I write will it be ok to call you a bigot or worse?

Hey Stu that’s the new game that the left plays.

[banjobob]

Means nothing really to anybody just that in Texas when 2000 slaves were freed. Just a day in our colorful American history. Somebody thought what great idea to celebrate and make a paid day off for federal workers.

[Ele201]

It’s important to commemorate the day that African Americans were declared free from being enslaved. I don’t celebrate it personally but I will share this: My sister is in a nursing home, and I have gotten to know one of its employees well because he facilitates FaceTime calls for me with my sis, using his own phone. He’s an African American, and for the past two years, I have sent him an email with “Happy Juneteenth!” He responds with so much appreciation that I acknowledged it. And that makes my day.

[WingedFoot78]

Funny that no one has mentioned the American Indian. Talk about being treated badly. This was their land first.

[Sandancer]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

As a retired, Christian, woman, I hope this holiday becomes known as Freedom Day. Different than the 4th of July which celebrates our nation freeing ourselves from British rule, Juneteenth celebrates the rights of every individual.

To celebrate, I took a few moments and counted my many blessings. As a woman, I am treated exactly as a man, as an elder I am allowed to retire and enjoy the rest of my years as I see fit, and as a Christian, I am allowed to practice my religion openly. In many countries, the people are not as fortunate.

Yes, the official holiday commemorates the freeing of black slaves. But, because we became a nation that truly believes in freedom for all, women eventually fought for their rights, children were no longer forced to work, a generation of Americans fought world wars to stop those who believed in racial superiority, a black woman refused to give up her seat, a black man had a dream, gays became proud, and so many more fought and continue to fight for individual freedom. No man, woman, or child should be stripped of these basic, "inalienable" rights.

[Maressa Smith]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Yes, I meant 2020.

Why should schools teach "Black History"? History should be color blind.

Should being the operative word.