Excellent response!

Thank you for informing the uninformed. I wrote a briefer but similar message under the other Juneteenth question asking about food on that day.

It's just another date on the calendar

Tomorrow means more to me, first day of summer. How does the first day of summer affect me? It doesn't, but it means more to me than a holiday invented for an occasion in this country that happened a long time before I was born and one that had no effect on me. It's just a day that meant nothing to me before I first heard of it and still means very little more. I am sure that it is important to some, probably the WOKE folks. Since it does not change anything for me, it doesn't bother me either. Apparently, humans NEED to celebrate just about anything that comes to mind. Have fun. Tomorrow is the first day of summer.....whoopie!

Sorry, what was your point? :rant-rave:

Juneteenth
 

It does not apply to me, as I celebrate our country as a whole, not it's pieces. Happy for freedom for all. But when is the day we celebrate the original residents of this country -native Americans who suffered the most for the invaders who took their land with empty promises. When is that holiday?

Simply as stated, my point was that there were not 2,000 slaves freed in TX but more like 250,000.

If you want to read more into it then my point is that declaring the freedom of 250,000 humans over two years after they were supposed to have been freed means more than nothing to nobody.

Skarra, the best way to explain it without getting into trouble about what I say & nothing bad, Google, “What is a Juneteenth Holiday”, & it’ll tell you exactly what & who the holiday is for, then you can make your own assumption!

Second verse same as the first……..
 

Is anybody who follows TOTV really surprised at how this thread is going?

Speaking of slavery, it has been a year since Roe v. Wade was overturned………

Margaret Atwood’s dystopian novel The Handmaid’s Tale, published in 1985 as a work of fiction, is about a society where women are subjugated by patriarchal rule and have no reproductive rights……

If you have not, and never will read the book or watch the television version, at least take a look at the summary of the plotline…….then think about the past year’s headlines. Compare the two, do a little forward thinking, and see if your skin starts crawling in response to what we are seeing now as women’s rights are being shoved back more than 50 years.

Let’s face it, there is more behind the celebration of the demise of Roe than just the religious aspect. A big part of it has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with figuratively smacking women back into “knowing their place.” Not only will this affect the lives of poor women, it will also affect hiring practices and promotions for career women.

Yet, none dare call it slavery…….

Boomer

Or receive junk mail other than that just another day

Nothing.

It's not a real holiday, it's pandering / patronizing. Kinda sad.

The South was good (still is), the North was bad (still is, more-or-less) . That's why 'yall carpetbaggers moved here. Now you're wrecking the South with your Yankee culture.

One possible reason that none dare call it slavery... slavery didn't involve "figuratively smacking," slavery involved actual owning, actual beating, and actual killing.

You don't like the recent ruling and neither do I but attempting to draw an equivalence to slavery will lead to arguments that distract from the real issue.

Yep, same here...fake holiday.

Now there’s a reason to celebrate. No bills and garbage mail : )

Just got out of 30-day forum jail this morning for a post that couldn't hold a candle to this one as far as insulting others. Since I am not allowed to point out when a particular side (can't name the side) is insulting others directly, just had to report it. Now, watch and see...nothing will be done, because it was only one particular group that was insulted. And they are fair game.

Well, considering TV is a place where the vast majority of the residents hate people who aren't white, christian, and straight, you won't see much celebrating around here. Those of us who do care celebrate quietly. Don't want to rile the neighbors. I'm not flying a Pride flag in honor of my gay nephew for the same reason. The venom I hear coming out of the mouths of some of my neighbors scares me.

Great post....except for the fact that it isn't what Juneteeth is.

What does it mean to me? NOT MUCH. Another made up holiday like Kwanzaa. Having said that I do honor the soldiers on both sides that caught in the Civil War.

Yes. Of course slavery was wrong and it was hell, but we’re done with that as a country now. And, of course, it should not be forgotten. We screwed up with years of denying equal education and when we denied returning WW2 veterans the loans for houses that white veterans could easily get. (Most of us “white people” here on TOTV have done just fine with our real estate equity over decades. But Black families were left behind as real estate took off when Black vets returned from WW2 and could not get loans for homes……

I know all that unfair history. It should not be swept away, but we need to move forward now. This Juneteenth celebration should not be hurting anything. But, of course, like so many other things, it is being used as a weapon to divide us. I have no problem with this new holiday. Let it be. But I sure am creeped out by some of the remarks here……though not surprised.

Back to your criticism of me. That was a knee-jerk reaction on your part……

So? How dare I use a metaphor? Why on earth would that have been taken literally?

But this is just an example of how moderates are jumped on by extremes from both sides, when we are actually the only hope for America’s future.

Boomer

PS: Btw, I hope you will track down that Freakonomics podcast I wrote about earlier in this thread somewhere. Even though the guy interviewed calls himself a conservative thinker, he is actually a moderate thinker — an endangered species.

Oh well, I’m done with this thread now that I have managed to pizz off both extremes, I guess my work here is done. :) Such is the life of a moderate. (sigh)

Boomer

Sorry, not sorry, you (or any other woman) lost a made up constitutional right (meaning it wasn't a constitutional right) to kill babies in the womb for convenience. Yet, few dare call it murder.....

Start your post off with a lie (unless you have anything other than vitriol to back up your post) and then continue to attack throughout your post. Interesting how that is allowed on this forum. In case you were wondering, disagreeing with your opinion does not make something venomous. We are not required to support every idea that one side puts forth in America. Try again.

Of all the made up holidays Cinco de Mayo is my favorite!