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Will people be happy once all the remembrance of the past is removed?
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Sad that schools do not teach our history and now statues commemorating important people in our history will not even be here.
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I must mumble to myself a few times per day now - "our poor kids and grandkids"...

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Middle East ideology has infiltrated the US culture
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Very very true
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What's next.
The kind of car one drives.
The color of your house.
Which way is the wind blowing.

When dealing with people who have nothing invested, keep in mind they have nothing to lose.

I am waiting for the time when they ATTEMPT, to attack the American flag.
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What's next.
The kind of car one drives.
The color of your house.
Which way is the wind blowing.

When dealing with people who have nothing invested, keep in mind they have nothing to lose.

I am waiting for the time when they ATTEMPT, to attack the American flag.




The media would just LOVE that
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Where are all those statues to Hitler and Stalin and Saddam here in the USA so we can remember our history? Now is certainly the time to begin erecting a few nice Fidel Castro monuments. Let's be sure we have reminders of all the enemies of America in our squares so we don't forget our history. Certainly the Klan was a big part of American history. Be sure to name a few streets Ku Klux Klan way so our grandchildren can ask about the origin of the street name. If you petition the Morse family maybe you can get a new section of the development down South to honor George Wallace and David Duke, Bull Connor and James Earl Ray.

To help remember our history we need Lynching Lane and Segregation Street. We need Poll Tax Path and whatever creative and catchy remembrances you can imagine so we all remember our history better.

Or we can honor our better examples of citizenry. We can find people who believed in equality of whites and blacks, native americans and Asians. We can honor those who fought bigotry instead of those who so strongly believed in inequality that they were willing to kill Americans and died themselves rather than accept that POC were entitled to emancipation, the right to live with their spouse and children, not be subjugated and sold. Is it too much to ask that those statues honoring such traitors be torn down? Is it too much to suggest that naming a building or a street or a military facility for a bigot and a racist be undone? I am sorry it hurts your feelings that "those" people are getting their way finally with this issue. But I'll take you seriously when you suggest we do really need that Adolph statue to be sure we can all remember.

Remember more Americans died because of the war flagged by the Stars and Bars than the total of the wars instigated by Germany, the Viet Nam "conflict" Korea and the Revolutionary War combined. So let us all be sure to erect a few more statues honoring the heroes of the traitorous and racist Confederacy.
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The media would just LOVE that
Our country is being torn down right before our eyes
Most of Washington embraces it
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Will people be happy once all the remembrance of the past is removed?


If you are referring to the anarchists, they will never be happy.
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We must learn from history; not try to forget it or rewrite it
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Where are all those statues to Hitler and Stalin and Saddam here in the USA so we can remember our history?
Statues are erected to commemorate people who did good, in the context of their time.

Times change; contexts change; but none of that is reason to expunge our history.

Most people are intelligent enough to appreciate that.

Take Alfred Nobel as an example. He made a lot of money and used it to fund a prize program that is benefiting science etc. over a century later. Yet the money was from his invention of dynamite, which has killed thousands of people, so some people want to remove all reminders of him. Will that bring those people back to life? Or should we appreciate that he continues to bring benefits to the World? I vote for the latter.
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Statues are erected to commemorate people who did good, in the context of their time.

Times change; contexts change; but none of that is reason to expunge our history.

Most people are intelligent enough to appreciate that.

Take Alfred Nobel as an example. He made a lot of money and used it to fund a prize program that is benefiting science etc. over a century later. Yet the money was from his invention of dynamite, which has killed thousands of people, so some people want to remove all reminders of him. Will that bring those people back to life? Or should we appreciate that he continues to bring benefits to the World? I vote for the latter.
So very true. People are products of their times and should be considered as such.
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If I recall correctly, the Statuary Hall Collection in the U.S. Capitol building includes Robert E. Lee and Jeff Davis. When will revisionists demand their removal? Washington and Jefferson too--- slave owners.
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Where are all those statues to Hitler and Stalin and Saddam here in the USA so we can remember our history? Now is certainly the time to begin erecting a few nice Fidel Castro monuments. Let's be sure we have reminders of all the enemies of America in our squares so we don't forget our history. Certainly the Klan was a big part of American history. Be sure to name a few streets Ku Klux Klan way so our grandchildren can ask about the origin of the street name. If you petition the Morse family maybe you can get a new section of the development down South to honor George Wallace and David Duke, Bull Connor and James Earl Ray.

To help remember our history we need Lynching Lane and Segregation Street. We need Poll Tax Path and whatever creative and catchy remembrances you can imagine so we all remember our history better.

Or we can honor our better examples of citizenry. We can find people who believed in equality of whites and blacks, native americans and Asians. We can honor those who fought bigotry instead of those who so strongly believed in inequality that they were willing to kill Americans and died themselves rather than accept that POC were entitled to emancipation, the right to live with their spouse and children, not be subjugated and sold. Is it too much to ask that those statues honoring such traitors be torn down? Is it too much to suggest that naming a building or a street or a military facility for a bigot and a racist be undone? I am sorry it hurts your feelings that "those" people are getting their way finally with this issue. But I'll take you seriously when you suggest we do really need that Adolph statue to be sure we can all remember.

Remember more Americans died because of the war flagged by the Stars and Bars than the total of the wars instigated by Germany, the Viet Nam "conflict" Korea and the Revolutionary War combined. So let us all be sure to erect a few more statues honoring the heroes of the traitorous and racist Confederacy.
What is being completely overlooked is the timing/date of when these remembrances were authorized/constructed.

To look back or at them today measuring by today's standards is unreasonable. The remembrances have been around/accepted for more than one generation.

So now all of a sudden minority and special interest groups have arbitrarily made the decisions for the American people to do away with them.

A comparison? The book burning in the Nazi Germany era.

Shameful that federal, state and local governments continue to allow the dismantling of what was and is America.....like it or not!!
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