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Pkirn714 07-29-2020 09:12 AM
Hydroxychloroquine.
 
Six prominent doctors came to the White House steps this past week and said how good Hydroxychloroquine was and is. It can be a great help with Covid-19. No one is listening and the Press wouldn't print that.



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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 1810026)
We all have our views on this medication to treat Covid. I am a believer that It can help with Covid symptoms. With that said, I went to my primary care Dr. today for a physical. We got into a Covid discussion and I asked her if I was symptomatic with Covid, would she prescribe Hydroxychloroquine. Her answer was no. I said “if I asked for Hydroxychloroquine would you prescribe it” and she said no.
Hydroxychloroquine.



Six prominent doctors came to the White House steps this past week and said how good Hydroxychloroquine was and is. It can be a great help with Covid-19. No one is listening


has long history with treating malaria with Great results no fatalities. It’s my body, and it’s what I choose to counteract Covid. I was disappointed to hear she would not prescribe this medication.

Have any of you asked your physicians if they would prescribe this, God forbid we get Covid? I would think this would be high on the priority list for us seniors who would like this medications.

Thank you for your input.

Dennisruggles 07-29-2020 09:18 AM
No hydroxy
 
Drug companies spend over $13 billion on drug ads that require a Dr. prescription, most of which are medically prohibited or will not be prescribed....$$ that could be spent on reducing costs of legitimately needed drugs. Like advertising cars to elementary schoolers. Get upset about that, not failing to followThe Supreme Leader’s bright ideas...like bleach.

BettyBoop1952 07-29-2020 09:25 AM
Check out Budesonide nebulizer..it's had good results in other countries.

slbellmd 07-29-2020 09:31 AM
The Hippocratic oath says "First do no harm." You are visiting a physician, not the drive thru at McDonalds. It's your body but it is his license. It's your body but it is his/her training and experience with thousand's of bodies. Would you expect him to prescribe oxycodone because it's your body?

Altavia 07-29-2020 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1810197)
There have been many medical studies done testing HCQ effectiveness. There are more positive studies than there are negative ones. In general (not all) the negative studies used the drug on severely sick patients while the more positive ones used the drug earlier, before the disease had progressed to ICU/ventilator stage.

Here is a link to 65 studies, 39 or which were peer reviewed. Peer review does not always guarantee authenticity of results, the infamous Surgisphere study published in Lancet was peer reviewed and then retracted because of fraudulent data.

COVID-19 Treatment - Analysis of 65 global studies showing high effectiveness for early treatment

The most recent positive study was recently released by Henry Ford Health in Michigan and treatment with HCQ cut the death rate significantly in sick hospitalized patients, no heart-related side-effects. HCQ decreases mortality from 26.4% to 13.5% in 2451 patients.

https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S...534-8/fulltext
Very interesting, clear there is much to learn managing this disease, thanks for posting.

Dana1963 07-29-2020 09:42 AM
Follow the Money
 
The Government Peter Navarro cornered the market and bought 60 million douses causing shortages of people needing medication for Lupus a other autoimmune diseases. Now he’s trying to dump it.
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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 1810207)
BONGO! There’s no money to be made on Hydroxychloroquine. There’s your answer as to why it’s not being prescribed and why they poo poo any good that it does. Follow the money........

BAT777 07-29-2020 09:50 AM
Are you a doctor or Scientist?

BAT777 07-29-2020 09:53 AM
My husband is on this medicine, but is the-inhaler and seems to be helping with his breathing so far.

Queenbe60 07-29-2020 09:57 AM
From what I have gathered, sadly this has become political and prescribing it has been restricted according to political beliefs. It has been proven effective in countries where the death/recovery time has been dramatically reduced. And others say, not so .... what do you believe ? This is exactly why politics should be kept out of everything.

GoodLife 07-29-2020 10:00 AM
[QUOTE=TooColdNJ;1810257]

With the onset of COVID-19, I’m sure that the same thing is happening with HCQ— Yale professors and doctors have no scientific proof and are probably cashing in on claims that it could have an effect on the virus— probably for their own personal gains.[QUOTE]


Possibly the most error filled comment in a thread that's full of them

HCQ costs about $5 for a weeks supply. There is no patent on this drug and it is made worldwide by several companies. There are ZERO Doctors, epidemiologists, or scientists who are getting paid to endorse this drug. If they recommend it, it's simply because they are getting good results.

Want to explore Big Pharma drug corruption? Eight members of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) expert COVID-19 Treatment Guideline Panel are on Gilead's payroll. Gilead makes Remdesivir, the drug that cost hospitals $3000-$5000 per patient and has no statistical effect on covid 19 deaths. The NIH panel allowed the Remdesivir trial to change their endpoints during the trial from measuring effects on mortality to effects on hospital stay.

If readers want to explore 65 studies on HCQ, both good and bad, see post #54 and forget all the political chatter.

Joanne19335 07-29-2020 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Bellavita (Post 1810304)
Is the President a doctor? NO
you just went to a doctor YES

If you want a politician reality star to be your doctor there has to be something wrong.

Do you have malaria? NO
Do you have Lupus? NO

I have lupus, I take hydroxychloroquine, I had to go to my eye doctor all the time to stay on the medicine. I have to be monitored to take this drug. It is a serious no joke drug and if I did not need it I would not take it.


When you read the disclaimer and it is longer than the way it can help you ....then it is a serious drug.

Repeat after me, the president is not a doctor. Listen to a real one.
Thank you for your intelligent post. It makes the most sense of anything I have read so far.

Byte1 07-29-2020 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Joanne19335 (Post 1810144)
I believe Dr. Anthony Fauci. Hydroxy is a drug prescribed for malaria and lupus. It is not prescribed for COVID-19 because the risks outweigh the benefits. Side effects include heart arrhythmia and liver failure. This is not a risk that I am willing to take.
I doubt your statement regarding "side effects." They gave the stuff to EVERYONE that was shipped to Vietnam so if your statement is true then thousands of Vets could be suing the gov. for poisoning them. I believe that your "side effects" have been disproved.

Barefoot 07-29-2020 10:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BettyBoop1952 (Post 1810291)
Check out Budesonide nebulizer..it's had good results in other countries.
:agree:
A doctor in Texas is recommending it as a treatment for the virus.
I think it looks promising.

Bucco 07-29-2020 10:16 AM
[QUOTE=GoodLife;1810317][QUOTE=TooColdNJ;1810257]

With the onset of COVID-19, I’m sure that the same thing is happening with HCQ— Yale professors and doctors have no scientific proof and are probably cashing in on claims that it could have an effect on the virus— probably for their own personal gains.
Quote:
Quote:

Possibly the most error filled comment in a thread that's full of them

HCQ costs about $5 for a weeks supply. There is no patent on this drug and it is made worldwide by several companies. There are ZERO Doctors, epidemiologists, or scientists who are getting paid to endorse this drug. If they recommend it, it's simply because they are getting good results.

Want to explore Big Pharma drug corruption? Eight members of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) expert COVID-19 Treatment Guideline Panel are on Gilead's payroll. Gilead makes Remdesivir, the drug that cost hospitals $3000-$5000 per patient and has no statistical effect on covid 19 deaths. The NIH panel allowed the Remdesivir trial to change their endpoints during the trial from measuring effects on mortality to effects on hospital stay.

If readers want to explore 65 studies on HCQ, both good and bad, see post #54 and forget all the political chatter.
For once I will agree with you.

The sheer politics with this virus is staggering....from endorsements from politicians, witch doctors and the like.

I have been taking this drug for about two years or more for rheumatoid arthritis, and it works great, but never considered it as anything for this virus. I was told about heart, and was checked out......need vision test strictly every 12 months specific for side effects, but other than some minor side effects, it does well.

Why folks have become so distrustful of the medical field unless they have the same political leanings as you is well beyond me. I cannot imagine asking a doctor to whom I go to for help, about how he is registered and how he votes. Nor can I imagine calling my political party for endorsement of a doctor of doctors advice.

OETTING 07-29-2020 10:32 AM
Science Check
 
The results of the study used in the Newsweek opinion piece and its author are somewhat suspect. For additional insight you can view:

Hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19: Evidence can’t seem to kill it – Science-Based Medicine



Quote:
Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1810036)
DR HARVEY A. RISCH, MD, PHD , PROFESSOR OF EPIDEMIOLOGY, YALE SCHOOL OF PUBLIC HEALTH

“When this inexpensive oral medication is given very early in the course of illness, before the virus has had time to multiply beyond control, it has shown to be highly effective,” Risch explained. “Especially when given in combination with the antibiotics azithromycin or doxycycline and the nutritional supplement zinc.”

Earlier this month, a large peer-reviewed study found that hydroxychloroquine cut the mortality rate of COVID-19 by more than half and, contrary to previous claims by faulty studies, had no adverse effects on the heart.

Link goes to Newsweek article

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