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banjobob 07-03-2020 11:03 AM

Must be since most football and b-ball players are black

charlieo1126@gmail.com 07-03-2020 11:24 AM

Oh Canada is played at sports arenas at all games when visiting players come , same for spirts with an international team , I think it’s a nice gesture and a good song gives people something to think about.

bobnyce 07-03-2020 11:47 AM

I will not be watching any NFL game that does not play the National Anthem nor will I watch if there is any kneeling. Honoring our flag and anthem has nothing to do with kneeling before a game. Our flag deserves recognition as the greatest nation on earth regardless of our misgivings which we have fought to correct!!! Too many have died to give us the right to preserve our way of life to disrespect these rights by kneeling before a lousy football, soccer, baseball, hockey game or any other event. So, I will exercise my right not to watch or support those who do. One angry veteran!!!

ffresh 07-03-2020 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Judy n Ron (Post 1796761)
I'm taking a knee. Ron

You should take it at home and discontinue your financial support for such nonsense … just sayin' :icon_wink:


Fred

TexaninVA 07-03-2020 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bobnyce (Post 1797088)
I will not be watching any NFL game that does not play the National Anthem nor will I watch if there is any kneeling. Honoring our flag and anthem has nothing to do with kneeling before a game. Our flag deserves recognition as the greatest nation on earth regardless of our misgivings which we have fought to correct!!! Too many have died to give us the right to preserve our way of life to disrespect these rights by kneeling before a lousy football, soccer, baseball, hockey game or any other event. So, I will exercise my right not to watch or support those who do. One angry veteran!!!

Me too .... to flip a phrase :icon_wink:

charlieo1126@gmail.com 07-03-2020 11:58 AM

To many people died for the right to live free and to protest peacefully anyway they choose ( see Supreme Court verdicts

blueash 07-03-2020 12:01 PM

During the time the Philadelphia Flyers were the best team in hockey, in the mid 80s, that team did not play the Star Spangled Banner at all before key games. Instead they opted for Kate Smith singing God Bless America. Was there an outcry about not playing the "National Anthem" of course not. Did white people say they were going to stop watching hockey if Francis Scott Key's song was omitted? Of course not. So the issue is not that all games must be preceded by a particular song and only that song. And the NFL is not omitting the national anthem, they are electing for one game out of the entire season to play an additional song before the national anthem. Have stadiums had music before the national anthem before? Surely they have.

So the real objection here, it seems to me, is not that the official anthem is not being played as it is being played. The objection is that a song which attempts to capture something of the black experience in America is also being played. We can't have that can we? Nothing racial at all about objecting to a song about the black experience which is preceding not replacing the national anthem. Right?

ffresh 07-03-2020 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1797099)
During the time the Philadelphia Flyers were the best team in hockey, in the mid 80s, that team did not play the Star Spangled Banner at all before key games. Instead they opted for Kate Smith singing God Bless America. Was there an outcry about not playing the "National Anthem" of course not. Did white people say they were going to stop watching hockey if Francis Scott Key's song was omitted? Of course not. So the issue is not that all games must be preceded by a particular song and only that song. And the NFL is not omitting the national anthem, they are electing for one game out of the entire season to play an additional song before the national anthem. Have stadiums had music before the national anthem before? Surely they have.

So the real objection here, it seems to me, is not that the official anthem is not being played as it is being played. The objection is that a song which attempts to capture something of the black experience in America is also being played. We can't have that can we? Nothing racial at all about objecting to a song about the black experience which is preceding not replacing the national anthem. Right?

Singling out ANY particular racial group in this manner, whether to laud or condemn, is (to borrow a favorite and overused leftist epithet) racist by its very nature! No matter how it is "spinned" [sic] :ohdear:

Fred

anothersteve 07-03-2020 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ffresh (Post 1797106)
Singling out ANY particular racial group in this manner, whether to laud or condemn, is (to borrow a favorite and overused leftist epithet) racist by its very nature! No matter how it is "spinned" [sic] :ohdear:

Fred

I agree and I'm tired of this pandering under the pretense of systemic racism.

Steve

blueash 07-03-2020 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1797094)
Me too .... to flip a phrase :icon_wink:

I see that cute little wink icon. Yes, it is very funny to intentionally use a phrase which is strongly associated with the pain people have experienced being victims of sexual assault as part of a cute comment. Nice job flipping a phrase.

notinkansas 07-03-2020 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Nanny32162 (Post 1796856)
Relax and don't get your knickers in a knot, it solves nothing and makes you sit funny. Do you enjoy Irish songs on St. Patrick's Day, and I could list other ethnic songs you may enjoy. What is wrong with recognizing and paying tribute to an ethnic group, upon whose backs this nation was built? Have you ever listened to "Life Every Voice and Sing"? It is a beautiful song with wonderful lyrics by James Weldon Johnson, plus it is easy for everyone to sing. I will happily sing this great song and then join in "The Star Spangled Banner". Please get over your pettiness and think in broader terms.

I agree it truly is a beautiful song. However, if the NFL does this it will probably only add to the division.
That being said, if no one had labeled this a Black National Anthem and the current resident of the Oval Office had suggested (as his idea) that this should be our new anthem, my guess is these people posting their negative responses would be running out to learn the words.

bpascani 07-03-2020 12:47 PM

shouldn't

TexaninVA 07-03-2020 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1797109)
I see that cute little wink icon. Yes, it is very funny to intentionally use a phrase which is strongly associated with the pain people have experienced being victims of sexual assault as part of a cute comment. Nice job flipping a phrase.

You have good vision and perhaps even a sense of humor

TexaninVA 07-03-2020 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1797099)
During the time the Philadelphia Flyers were the best team in hockey, in the mid 80s, that team did not play the Star Spangled Banner at all before key games. Instead they opted for Kate Smith singing God Bless America. Was there an outcry about not playing the "National Anthem" of course not. Did white people say they were going to stop watching hockey if Francis Scott Key's song was omitted? Of course not. So the issue is not that all games must be preceded by a particular song and only that song. And the NFL is not omitting the national anthem, they are electing for one game out of the entire season to play an additional song before the national anthem. Have stadiums had music before the national anthem before? Surely they have.

So the real objection here, it seems to me, is not that the official anthem is not being played as it is being played. The objection is that a song which attempts to capture something of the black experience in America is also being played. We can't have that can we? Nothing racial at all about objecting to a song about the black experience which is preceding not replacing the national anthem. Right?

No, it's simply common sense to object to a song that's now been racialized, by design, and forced down our throats as part of the ongoing woke culture ... people are sick of everything being politicized, including the NFL

Byte1 07-03-2020 01:03 PM

"The objection is that a song which attempts to capture something of the black experience in America is also being played. We can't have that can we? "

Correct, we should sympathize with those poor majority in the NFL that are soooo representative of the "black experience."


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