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Actually no blacks were killed by police, that didn’t resist arrest and threaten police lives. Police face life & death daily in protecting the public.
Resisting arrest is the reason for shootings. It has nothing to do with race! George Floyd died from massive fentanyl overdose! But fakenews needed a narrative to motivate hate mobs Propaganda brainwashing works Free open societies, with Open discussions & debates are the enemy of the hate mobs. Mobs now are rampaging in cities bullying looting maiming |
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Yes! We may at stop the senseless killing of black people
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If Floyd was white he’d be Live
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Ok, I am white and was stopped for driving a nice car
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yes, daily.
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If he wasn't so full of drugs he might be alive.
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I could describe all of my encounters with the police and it would shock most people. But on this crowd it would be a waste of time. I also described in detail the war on crime and its effects on the black population. Millions jailed, privatized prisons etc, etc and nothing comes of it with these people. Don't get me wrong. I think most of the people here are great. Even the racist ones are at their core, decent individuals because it's just their views that are racist. They don't seem to be the violent kind. They just believe that not breaking the law and cooperating with the police solves all the problems blacks face in America. This comes from their perspective and you can't change a person's perception of another person's reality if they're not willing to see the difference. A person said that man came to her door and wanted to talk about her roof. Other neighbors were having theirs replaced etc and she said that this guy was a conman because of his race which she said we all know which one she was talking about but it would be politically incorrect to say it. She wasn't afraid of this black man because she went on to say she followed him around so she could warn her neighbors that this man was a crook and not to listen to him. It turns out he was a legitimate employee of a legitimate company that was in the area replacing roofs. This is the type of racism we have here. The non-violent kind. The unfortunate aspect of this, is the use of criminals to show this perspective of black life. As you said, it's not the best of what the black race has to offer. Be prepared for statistical arguments and logic if you bring up racism. No matter what you say it's not going to change the minds of people who can't see past the white world they experience. |
it drives me nuts when people ask for proof or say I didn’t hear that. They think they know everything
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Interesting how it is the slimebag criminals that are the victims. Complaints of criminals being mistreated by the police, and using race as a tool? Just goes to show you how naive some folks (the protected) are when it comes to common sense. Sorry if I do not sympathize with the plight of criminals, regardless of ethnicity. Racial profiling is not the same thing as "systemic racism." Although, it does seem that WHITE cops are being racially profiled or singled out when it comes to implied misuse of authority. Police Depts. have their own Internal Affairs section that investigates bad conduct of their officers. The media and the average civilian has no clue as to what is authorized/practiced police procedure. I have heard ignorant folks ask why "warning shots" were not used, rubber bullets, and social workers instead of physical restraint or lethal force.
This whole thing went totally out of control after a certain person of power stated that "the police acted stupidly" when they arrested his friend a few years ago. Criminals are given way too many chances to modify their illegal, unaccepted behavior. Time to give them the same consideration that they give to their victims. And when a police officer gives an order, if the slimebag does not comply, he should not be given any second thought as to how civil he is treated. In the old West, gun slingers were hired to clean up an out of control town. Once that was done, the gun slinger lawman was then run out of town because he was an embarrassment and a reminder of how impotent and weak the civilians were. Now, we are seeing the same thing. Defund the police because a social worker can do their jobs. What a laugh. What a joke. What a pathetic and stupid idea. LAW ENFORCEMENT is done by law enforcement officers, not social workers. Floyd died as a result of an overdose, NOT by being strangled to death. Blake resisted arrest and attempted to grab a lethal weapon to use against the police and was shot. Two individuals with major crimes in their record. Two dirtbags that have resulted in civilians taking up arms and destroying property and killing civilians and police. These two are your champions for justice? Why choose the worst of examples? Why not protest the killing of a retired police Capt who was a GOOD example? I agree that Floyd's name would not even be known if he was white. But, whites do not have any reason to believe that the police are automatically biased against their color. How do you convince a minority that the majority supports their equal rights but does not condone or advocate bad and unlawful behavior any more than they should? We do not convince anyone by destroying or killing. Equal rights includes equal responsibility. Laws are not racist. Laws are the same for everyone, not based on color. That idea of laws based on color was destroyed decades ago. Some continue to state that blacks are incarcerated more than whites. OK, but answer one question; did those blacks that were incarcerated break the law? Does it really matter what the ratio of black to white population when it comes to the origination of the crime? Are we going to excuse criminal behavior based on the color of the dirtbag? |
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I keep reading all these posts and think back to when I was a kid growing up in the suburbs up north. We were all white and would be out just crushing around on Friday and Saturday nights and almost every night during the summer. We were teenagers. I cannot tell you how many times we were pulled over by the police for doing nothing. They would use some excuse as to why they pulled us over but what they were really doing was to see if we were drinking. I reflect back now and realize they were just going their job making sure we were not a danger to anyone else. When I was in my early twenties I was in California and got pulled over on my way home from work. It was winter and dark. One of the police officers stood behind my car with his hand on his weapon while the other approached my window. He asked me to get out of the car which I did and followed his every instruction. He asked me what I was doing there and I told him I was on my way home from work. After checking my registration he apologized for pulling me over but said my car matched the description of a stolen vehicle. So I can point to many times I’ve been pulled over and profiled because of my age. One thing though, I always did what I was told to do and answered them by saying yes officer, no officer and showing respect. Never had a problem by doing this.
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Maybe the police stops have something to do with crime percentages by race. Do some research and you may have your answer.
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What makes certain WHITE folks believe they are the experts on "BLACK Americans?" |
What do you think should be reported in “national media”, please enlighten us?
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What makes certain BLACK folks believe they are the experts on the majority of "Black Americans". The current focus on the continual dividing of everything into terms of black or white is the epitome and hypocrisy of racism. |
Checking our own unconscious bias . . .
When I was a young man, I wanted to change the world. I found it was difficult to change the world, so I tried to change my nation. When I found I couldn’t change the nation, I began to focus on my town. I couldn’t change the town and as an older man, I tried to change my family. Now, as an old man, I realize the only thing I can change is myself, and suddenly I realize that if long ago I had changed myself, I could have made an impact on my family. My family and I could have made an impact on our town. Their impact could have changed the nation and I could indeed have changed the world. Conscious inclusion creates natural diversity…and it starts with a choice. Be inclusive…it’s your choice. |
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media and the “white sissy privilege “ group will never bring up these facts. Who needs the Police?
answer: the bad guys! thank God for second amendment |
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And what is the percentage of black people population wise in this country? Compare apples with apples.
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If Floyd was white he would still be alive.
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Time to stop saying "a black man was killed by the police today" and just say "a man was killed by the police today..." The media and those wishing to separate and demean blacks, making them lower where they can control them tend to excuse their behavior when they violate rules, when they would not tolerate the same behavior from white folks. This is demeaning to blacks and makes them feel inferior. Expect the same behavior and ethics as you do with whites and they will shrug off the excuses, gain respect and become just as productive as the rest of America. To respect them is not to treat them special but to treat them with color blindness. And require the same from them. And some day all folks will treat blonds equal to other intelligent people. :icon_wink: |
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Man you are killing me. Your post is so off line. Man if you can’t see the injustice going on in America right now then you are part of the problem. Black Live Matter. You are not getting it. Give me a break. I need to stop reading some of the comments on TTV because it just so racist. Unbelievable that people feels this way. We are such a divided country right now.
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All lives matter. Also, when you capitalize each word in Black Lives Matter (assuming you did not mean "Live"), you are talking about the organization, not making a statement. There are a lot of issues with Black Lives Matter. |
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Apparently, you are racist if you side with the police. The Blake incident is another case where the subject was a felon and was wanted in connection of three crimes. There was a warrant out for his arrest and the police had been radioed that information. He had a knife in his car and it appeared he was reaching for it. So, after being tased and ordered to stop, he ignored the police and went for it anyway. Maybe he had no intention of getting it and was just going to drive away. Maybe he should not have been shot seven times. That's for the court to decide, NOT an unlawful group of rioters. Protesters become felons when they burn down businesses or shoot people, including the police that were doing their jobs. There is NO excuse for civil disturbance such as we are seeing. NO ONE can excuse those people. If ordered to stand down, and they ignore the order, then they should be arrested and incarcerated. The racial argument has absolutely NO bearing on this rioting, destruction of property and murder. If there is a question as to the lawful shooting of a subject, the court has jurisdiction, not an unlawful group intent on committing more crime.
Floyd is the same situation. Only Floyd was not shot. He died of an overdose. Even if the Cop was instrumental in his death, the court has jurisdiction, not an unlawful crowd bent on committing felonies. That is why we have laws. The court is always the avenue for justice, not more crime. There is NO systemic racism in America. That is only a political tool being used to change our country. "There is a certain class of race problem-solvers who don't want the patient to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public." --BTW |
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So I guess you don’t have a problem with cold-blooded murder by police officers? That’s acceptable to you? I don’t care whether they’re black or white that was murder and cops are murdering Black people at an alarming rate. Get real and stop making excuses for the cops that are racist.
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So, with that in mind I still do not believe there is systemic racism in our country. But, after all the cities burn, due to dirtbags getting questionable treatment by law enforcement, and because some folks deem it to be due to systemic racism, it is likely that many normally sympathetic and decent folks will reluctantly view these activities with race based bias. Tear up my country and I have NO sympathy for you. And don't get me wrong, at least half of the felons burning down and destroying property in the videos I have seen are WHITE. Anarchists are the enemy of America and I have no tolerance for them. They can hide behind the "racism" theme all they want, but they are felons and felons do not deserve any slack. Personally, I can see no reason that any of these politicians running the cities and allowing anarchists burn and destroy should get reelected. Letting civil unrest go by without consequence is unconscionable and they do not deserve a position of responsibility. If this was not an election year, none of this would be tolerated. I will leave it at that so that this is not deemed a political statement. I see no reason for anyone on here to feel guilty unless they have committed a wrong on someone base solely on their color. |
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