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coffeebean 09-06-2021 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1999676)
My Doctor didn't call it a Booster. He just told me to show up and get the Third Shot. I was trying to illustrate that the whole give and take on this thread can be overcome by your own Doctor. I guess it doesn't matter what the Talking Heads in the Government or the TOTV'S say. What matters is that I got the shot.

I never expected another shot. I was in the Doctors office on another issue and he directed me where to be and gave me the time to show up.

My reaction to shot #1 & shot #2 were much less than #3. I was knocked out for over 24 hours and felt like garbage for 2 full days. I felt feverish but kept checking and never actually had a fever. Today is day four and the red mark at the injection site is way less than it was. Whoa, it looked rough for a while.

Who administer it? That's too much information for me to disclose. I answered your post out of respect for you and to try and help you decide what to do but the real answer to this is really between you and your Doctor. Good Luck.

Thank you for responding to me. OK.....that makes sense that a person's physician is administering the third shot. Then they know your history and are aware if the person is imunocompromised. I surely hope people are not going to a pharmacy and telling the pharmacy this is their first shot when it is actually their third shot.

coffeebean 09-06-2021 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1999775)
That's one of the things the trial participants are tested for, yes.

I'll be involved in a different type of vaccine trial soon (probably, possibly - invited and have first appointment, but last time I became a test subject they cancelled the trial completely and discontinued research on the vaccine).

They'll be checking antibodies for COVID-19 even though the vaccine isn't for COVID at all. They'll be checking for antibodies for a few different things - it's amazing how much you can learn with just a couple tablespoons of blood.

They'll be testing for all sorts of stuff, before they approve me as a viable test candidate. Right now I'm just a potential candidate.

Good luck with that endeavor. And.....thank you.

jimjamuser 09-06-2021 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1999557)
It IS startling to read the posts on here. You learn so much.

No boosters are available, and boosters (3rd shot) for Moderna appear heading for a delay.

Per Dr. Hotez of Baylor U. ......Pfizer and Moderna were BOTH ORIGINALLY DESIGNED for Three (3) doses. J and J for 2 doses. Because the US early on had so many cases and deaths the US government (not sure which person or organization) decided to place the 2nd dose of Pfizer and Moderna MORE CLOSELY together than they were originally DESIGNED for. The purpose was a priority of quickness to get vaccines in arms before anti-vaccine hesitancy could RUIN the Public Health. It was a SITUATIONAL and non-ideal solution.

Today per the Israel Government....... 1) Israel uses the Pfizer vaccine. Today, those vaccinated in Jan are TWICE (2 X) as likely to have breakthroughs as those vaccinated in April.

2) The 3rd Pfizer shot reduces the chance of infection by about 75%

3) In people age 60 plus, the 3rd shot reduces the chance of severe illness by TEN TIMES (10 x)

I believe that I have heard that the Moderna 3rd shot will be available soon after the 3rd Pfizer is available

jimjamuser 09-06-2021 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Waltdisney4life (Post 1999590)
Bla bla bla please stop!

I disagree with the content of this post.

jimjamuser 09-06-2021 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonnevie (Post 1999601)
or expensive regeron treatment.....talk about cash cow for someone

It is actually NOT too difficult to find out who that someone is.

jimjamuser 09-06-2021 04:21 PM

I disagree with the content of this post. See next post #67

jimjamuser 09-06-2021 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 1999606)
Fauci the liar would not recognize science if it hit him in the face.
The current “administration” does not seem to understand science or anything else.

I disagree with the contents of this post.

NoMoSno 09-06-2021 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1999798)
I disagree with the contents of this post.

I disagree with the contents of this post.

Bucco 09-06-2021 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1999794)
Per Dr. Hotez of Baylor U. ......Pfizer and Moderna were BOTH ORIGINALLY DESIGNED for Three (3) doses. J and J for 2 doses. Because the US early on had so many cases and deaths the US government (not sure which person or organization) decided to place the 2nd dose of Pfizer and Moderna MORE CLOSELY together than they were originally DESIGNED for. The purpose was a priority of quickness to get vaccines in arms before anti-vaccine hesitancy could RUIN the Public Health. It was a SITUATIONAL and non-ideal solution.

Today per the Israel Government....... 1) Israel uses the Pfizer vaccine. Today, those vaccinated in Jan are TWICE (2 X) as likely to have breakthroughs as those vaccinated in April.

2) The 3rd Pfizer shot reduces the chance of infection by about 75%

3) In people age 60 plus, the 3rd shot reduces the chance of severe illness by TEN TIMES (10 x)

I believe that I have heard that the Moderna 3rd shot will be available soon after the 3rd Pfizer is available

I was not aware at all of the planned number of shots. Can you link me somewhere to read that ?

I apologize if I seemed snippy.....I also was not aware of the giving or Moderna boosters.

Thanks for the info

jimjamuser 09-06-2021 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1999664)
I was under the wrong impression regarding political posts. I guess it’s okay. :popcorn::popcorn:

I was under the impression that after I left 4th-grade, peer group children stopped their "TATTELING" on each other. Some seniors, as they age get wiser, more considerate, and more easy-going.

jimjamuser 09-06-2021 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by waterflower (Post 1999684)
Why would anyone trust the gov/corporations who are in the business to make money. Their investors, big pharma, gates foundation, the many suppliers who profited from all their fear tactics. If you are not allowed to have other points of view in the science project why would you believe anything the talking heads say. Make the medical industry honest again.

I believe that "NIHILISM" is the doctrine of trusting no one and trusting nothing. I am NOT quite ready to write the world off like that. Yes, there is a lot of negativity and chaos stirring around in society today. I blame Facebook and the dark media and I hope that it like the other Plague (CV) goes away. I would take a booster shot against negativity!

Villages Kahuna 09-06-2021 05:17 PM

What’s the Science underlying the anti body infusions being recommended by the Governor and administered seven days a week at the Barnstorm Theatre? Do people understand that the antibodies being administered come from other humans or even animals? Do they understand that in an “infusion” the medicine is administered they an IV in your arm and pumped into your bloodstream for an hour or so?

Instead of getting a simple, painless vaccination of a drug which has been vetted by our best medical researchers for months? Because who told you it was a good idea? Governor deSantis?

jimjamuser 09-06-2021 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1999769)
Isn't that what the trial participants are tested for?

The companies - both Pfizer and Moderna DESIGNED their vaccine as a 3 shot regime. J and J as a 2 shot. WE have to believe that they have the best interests of their patients (customers) at heart. They have HUGE reputations to protect. They employ the best available medical scientists.

NoMoSno 09-06-2021 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 1999819)
What’s the Science underlying the anti body infusions being recommended by the Governor and administered seven days a week at the Barnstorm Theatre? Do people understand that the antibodies being administered come from other humans or even animals? Do they understand that in an “infusion” the medicine is administered they an IV in your arm and pumped into your bloodstream for an hour or so?

Instead of getting a simple, painless vaccination of a drug which has been vetted by our best medical researchers for months? Because who told you it was a good idea? Governor deSantis?

Dr. Fauci said it was a good treatment.
Fauci urges hospitals to use more COVID-19 antibody treatments

jimjamuser 09-06-2021 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1999782)
Thank you for responding to me. OK.....that makes sense that a person's physician is administering the third shot. Then they know your history and are aware if the person is imunocompromised. I surely hope people are not going to a pharmacy and telling the pharmacy this is their first shot when it is actually their third shot.

I am sure that somewhere in this LARGE country that someone has tried some clown trick like that. Vaccines are a GOOD thing, but too much of a good thing can become a BAD thing.


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