[stanley]

Originally Posted by Bucco

I am not easily insulted, but seems to me that “accepting as truth” with no links to support, in a venue that most posts are either made up ..............

You are suggesting that DISINFORMATION become the norm……”I do not agree with that post”

First I never mentioned any names.
Second....no I'm not. Isn't it hypocritical to accept another's posts without links and accepting it as Gospel?

Case in point;
“accepting as truth” with no links to support, in a venue that most posts are either made up .............."

Again without mentioning any particular person, that is the norm and is accepted as fact, even to you

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Got keep the cash cow going. Maybe a booster every month would be better, o wait have about every week.

And now we have the mu variant waiting in the wings. The mu variant does not respond to the current vaccines. Peoples' trust in gov't (such as it is) gets eroded more and more every day. They must let us have access to all information. I understand they try to paint a pretty picture to increase the percentage of people getting the vaccine. When the public is told that the vaccine is the key to no masks, to concerts, public events. When we are told the effective rate is 97%, only to drop to 70 something, When we are told how breakthrough cases are very few (using June figures. July and August will show increased ineffectiveness). When we see that all of these statements had to be walked back, the people lose faith in what they are being told. On top of knowing that, everyone knows information from scientists and doctors are being censored. This has been handled poorly.

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

The "other side" is conspiracy. The side I'm on is science, fact, peer-reviewed double-blind tested on more than 20 blond-haired blue-eyed virgins plucked from their kitchens at the peak of health. The "other side" of "my" side is opinion, extrapolation, supposition, pretense, fiction.

The other side isn't something any sentient human being would want to listen to, except for possibly entertainment value.

Kitchens, THAT is where they hide? It is important to sweat the small stuff. I remember hearing about Osama Bin Laden, after he was buried at sea. He opens his eyes (just go with it), looks around and sees many fish. Sturgeons. He smacks his head "I thought it was virgins"

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Wyseguy

And now we have the mu variant waiting in the wings. The mu variant does not respond to the current vaccines. Peoples' trust in gov't (such as it is) gets eroded more and more every day. They must let us have access to all information. I understand they try to paint a pretty picture to increase the percentage of people getting the vaccine. When the public is told that the vaccine is the key to no masks, to concerts, public events. When we are told the effective rate is 97%, only to drop to 70 something, When we are told how breakthrough cases are very few (using June figures. July and August will show increased ineffectiveness). When we see that all of these statements had to be walked back, the people lose faith in what they are being told. On top of knowing that, everyone knows information from scientists and doctors are being censored. This has been handled poorly.

When we want to believe in conspiracies we can find them.

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by Bucco

I am not easily insulted, but seems to me that “accepting as truth” with no links to support, in a venue that most posts are either made up or copy and pasted from “way out” websites, simply points that you are not here to discuss, but to pontificate. Of course I am speaking of those kind of subjects that are national and not Villages unique.

This forum was initially set up for discussion and we are told now that we must forgo the truth and accept whatever someone “says” is true, discussion cannot be held, at least not adult discussion. You are suggesting that DISINFORMATION become the norm……”I do not agree with that post”

"Disinformation" - false information which is intended to mislead, especially propaganda issued by a government organization to a rival power or the main media outlets.

[SkBlogW]

Originally Posted by Bucco

It IS startling to read the posts on here. You learn so much.

No boosters are available, and boosters (3rd shot) for Moderna appear heading for a delay.

How funny. The person who is always accusing others of lying or spreading misinformation makes a 100% wrong statement.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by SkBlogW

How funny. The person who is always accusing others of lying or spreading misinformation makes a 100% wrong statement.

And who acknowledged his error and apologized in post 69

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by stanley

First I never mentioned any names.
Second....no I'm not. Isn't it hypocritical to accept another's posts without links and accepting it as Gospel?

Case in point;
“accepting as truth” with no links to support, in a venue that most posts are either made up .............."

Again without mentioning any particular person, that is the norm and is accepted as fact, even to you

Sorry, post not intended for you directly.

I knew you were responding to jimjmuser about me and my reply was not clear, although......

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by lkagele

I really wish I knew how to get as smart as some of the posters on this site. I guess I need to give a couple of tablespoons of blood.

The title of his website is obviously tongue in cheek. Sorry you're unable to figure that out. Also sorry you seem so closed minded you consider anything contrarian as conspiracy. Whether I believe them or not, listening to the other side can give insight.

Serious question here. Just for my own edification, which sources should I be following to be assured it's the truth?

Start with the CDC website. They have a host of information that is not full of conspiracy theories. I trust them.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Start with the CDC website. They have a host of information that is not full of conspiracy theories. I trust them.

This deserves more than a hit on the LIKE button.

If folks would stay true to their word about becoming great, and respecting our own government instead of following and cheering for any crackpot theory that serves whatever doctrine they serve, we would be great.

This entire thing, from the get go was made into a P circus and for the last 18 months or so, elected officials, NOT FOLKS WHO HAVE SERVED THEIR LIFE IN THIS FIELD, led as if they have somehow concocted magical skills to determine the best route, with gain for the self’s as the main objective. We demonize folks who have given their life to the field, instead of cheering them on, and while they are not perfect or claim to be, we evidently still see P gain to be made.

Those who point out supposed errors are prepared to accept all the wrong doings from their elected officials…..that is ok…..but those who want to help sincerely are made a mockery off.

I do hope their is, in fact, Karma

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Wyseguy

And now we have the mu variant waiting in the wings. The mu variant does not respond to the current vaccines. Peoples' trust in gov't (such as it is) gets eroded more and more every day. They must let us have access to all information. I understand they try to paint a pretty picture to increase the percentage of people getting the vaccine. When the public is told that the vaccine is the key to no masks, to concerts, public events. When we are told the effective rate is 97%, only to drop to 70 something, When we are told how breakthrough cases are very few (using June figures. July and August will show increased ineffectiveness). When we see that all of these statements had to be walked back, the people lose faith in what they are being told. On top of knowing that, everyone knows information from scientists and doctors are being censored. This has been handled poorly.

The effective rate of the Pfizer vaccine WAS 97% (or around that and over 90%) AGAINST THE ALPHA VARIANT. The around (?) 70% effective rate has to do with the WHOLE NEW, different animal - the DELTA variant. So, the 97 % number has been rendered to be useful for modern Historical purposes only to discuss the early variants. Life changes and each year it changes MORE rapidly (I will not say exponentially). Imagine the year 2170, which many grandchildren will live to see (barring nuclear winter) - how fast that will change! Since the word conservative means "prefers things staying the way they are or were for long periods of time", How can anyone "conserve" at all (for longer than 1 day) when things will possibly change at an exponential (defined as 10 X) rate ?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Wyseguy

Kitchens, THAT is where they hide? It is important to sweat the small stuff. I remember hearing about Osama Bin Laden, after he was buried at sea. He opens his eyes (just go with it), looks around and sees many fish. Sturgeons. He smacks his head "I thought it was virgins"

That IS a good story (joke). I will try to remember it. Do you have a link to it?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Wyseguy

"Disinformation" - false information which is intended to mislead, especially propaganda issued by a government organization to a rival power or the main media outlets.

I assume that we are talking Russian trolls and bots?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by SkBlogW

How funny. The person who is always accusing others of lying or spreading misinformation makes a 100% wrong statement.

"boosters" is a misnomer. And that info about Moderna is TRUE. They must re-submit their long, long report. Still, many Doctors expect about ONLY a 2-week delay.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Start with the CDC website. They have a host of information that is not full of conspiracy theories. I trust them.

I trust them. I don't believe that The US
Government is basically BAD - the Russian Government may be (likely IS). I don't believe that anarchy or chaos IS a GOOD thing. I think that 95 % of Civil Servants are fine, upstanding, patriotic Americans! I have NO (zero) idea how the Proud Boys or similar groups can EVER RECRUIT EVEN one SINGLE American - that is WAY beyond me!!!!!!!!!!!!