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Topspinmo 02-26-2021 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1908280)
What gives you THAT idea????? The overwhelming number of COVID positive patients have no symptoms whatsoever. Those that do generally have a flu-like illness for several days. Only the sickest of the sick end up in the hospital/ICU/dead


I hate to say it, but IMO most likely the sickest of sick was probably going to go anyway?

DAVES 02-26-2021 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 1907983)
it becomes available at my doctors office. I'll not be chasing it around the state. To all you that do....kudos.

I'm 67 and my survival rate is above 99%. I've a better chance of falling off a ladder and becoming a vegetable. So I'll stay off of ladders, wear a mask where required, wash my hands frequently, use sanitizer(75% alcohol), avoid crowds out of doors, sneeze and cough into my arm and use ridiculously common sense to be safe.

Best of luck to all.

There is no shortage of confusing and conflicting information.

Fortunately, the psychologists have a term for it. Agoraphobia-fear of leaving your home.

All of life is a risk.

Back to the real world. It will be a long time before your doctor gets vaccines. I've read that they only sell them in lots of 600 plus.

Vaccines? We will shortly be awash in them. Pfizer one of the first, has recently come out with one that does not require the ultra low storage and shipping. Also, they are talking about needing boosters in a year.

Future? We've taken the first dose of Pfizer and are due for the second next week.
Follow ups? Will boosters also be paid for? Will it be like the flu shot? You go into a grocery store get the shot for free and they give you a store credit?

People's reaction? The proper term is panic.

Dbraisted 02-26-2021 08:47 AM

Sorry you feel that way.
 
I lost my close friend ...68... here in the Villages ..2 days on the ventilator.

DAVES 02-26-2021 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1908372)
I hate to say it, but IMO most likely the sickest of sick was probably going to go anyway?

That is of course true. Far as healthcare, No one gets out alive and yet we do not dare to see reality. I recall reading years ago that 80% of healthcare expense goes to people who are terminally ill. However, reality is since no one gets out alive, we are all terminally ill.

SacDQ 02-26-2021 08:53 AM

Don’t look back your not headed in that direction!

allenpegg1@gmail.com 02-26-2021 09:33 AM

Hallelujah!!!

Scbang 02-26-2021 09:36 AM

Second Dose sickness
 
A question for you who had 2nd dose and got sick. I got it yesterday and need to travel down to TV. How long did it take to get sick ( if you did ) after the shot? Some says 24 hours and some says 48 hours. How long did it take to recover enough to drive 10 hours straight?

Cheers!

Summerhouse 02-26-2021 09:41 AM

Isn’t that the equivalent of NOT wearing a seatbelt and hoping that if you yourself drive fairly carefully you’ll never be involved in an accident?

laboutj 02-26-2021 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Scbang (Post 1908436)
A question for you who had 2nd dose and got sick. I got it yesterday and need to travel down to TV. How long did it take to get sick ( if you did ) after the shot? Some says 24 hours and some says 48 hours. How long did it take to recover enough to drive 10 hours straight?

Cheers!

I have not been vaccinated yet. My son is 26 and had both shots. Sick as a dog for 48 hours after the second one (Moderna). Father in law who's 92 has had both shots and nothing (Pfizer).

dhdallas 02-26-2021 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 1907983)
it becomes available at my doctors office. I'll not be chasing it around the state. To all you that do....kudos.

I'm 67 and my survival rate is above 99%. I've a better chance of falling off a ladder and becoming a vegetable. So I'll stay off of ladders, wear a mask where required, wash my hands frequently, use sanitizer(75% alcohol), avoid crowds out of doors, sneeze and cough into my arm and use ridiculously common sense to be safe.

Best of luck to all.

You are actually thinking for yourself & using common sense! Shame on you :-)

The government could not have designed a better thought control experiment if they tried (or did they?)

Now, the government, media, and terrorism organizations see just how easy it is to get the masses to think and act as one. Read my Invasions of the Body Snatchers article.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...ht-control.jpg

golfing eagles 02-26-2021 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by oneclickplus (Post 1908368)
Giving your body proper nutrition including minerals and vitamins that boost the immune system is not "voodoo nutrition crap".

What is voodoo is injecting sh!t into your arm that will NEVER leave your body or turn off. It (rRNA) will continue to cause your own cells to produce these spike proteins causing a immune response. Long after COVID-19 is gone, your body will continue this process. It's not like other vaccines where you've built an immunity and your system is ready in case of future exposure. With this mRNA shot (not a vaccine), your own cells continue to PROVOKE an unnecessary immune response when no threat exists.

Congratulations - you now have an autoimmune disease.

There isn't enough money in the world to pay for the lawsuits when ... dare I say millions ... people come down with all kinds of autoimmune disorders because St. Anthony Fauci said it was safe.

Morons for not being the best advocate for your own body when mortality from COVID is something like 0.3%. Don't even think about telling me to get the shot (not a vaccine) for the sake of other people.

OMG! I have no idea where to begin. I was going to start with what is correct in that post, but alas, couldn't find anything

First of all, 99.9% of people have adequate levels of the essential vitamins and minerals they need. Taking additional supplements serve to give quacks something to do, make profits for vitamin companies, and give the patient expensive urine.

Second, the mRNA in the vaccine is eliminated from the body in 24-48 hours after injection---so much for it going on and on. And yes---it is JUST LIKE other vaccines, you body produces an antibody to the spike protein and is then stored in memory B and T cells. Your cells DO NOT continue to provoke an unnecessary immune response, only mounts an appropriate response when challenged again by the virus.

Some people need to go to immunology 101 class

Harcourt 02-26-2021 10:05 AM

Received first shot at lake Sumter college Summerville. Half hit drive in and out of the facility within a half hour, no hassle and professionals doing a great job. Driving all over the State no, but a half hour drive no issue

cassjax2 02-26-2021 10:23 AM

OrangeBlossomBaby- I’m in the Synexus study and joined, I think in Oct or Nov. I received a “shot” but do not know if I had the placebo or the J&J vaccine. So far I’ve received over $500 for my time.

Byte1 02-26-2021 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GeriS (Post 1908300)
So do you know you can still get it, spread it to others & are supposed to wear a mask or two & social distance? Did you knowingly you wanted to modify your DNA?

WRONG! It does NOT modify your DNA. More fake news.

Byte1 02-26-2021 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Summerhouse (Post 1908438)
Isn’t that the equivalent of NOT wearing a seatbelt and hoping that if you yourself drive fairly carefully you’ll never be involved in an accident?

Do you wear a helmet and a fireproof suit when you drive your vehicle?

Tmarkwald 02-26-2021 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1908455)
OMG! I have no idea where to begin. I was going to start with what is correct in that post, but alas, couldn't find anything

First of all, 99.9% of people have adequate levels of the essential vitamins and minerals they need. Taking additional supplements serve to give quacks something to do, make profits for vitamin companies, and give the patient expensive urine.

Second, the mRNA in the vaccine is eliminated from the body in 24-48 hours after injection---so much for it going on and on. And yes---it is JUST LIKE other vaccines, you body produces an antibody to the spike protein and is then stored in memory B and T cells. Your cells DO NOT continue to provoke an unnecessary immune response, only mounts an appropriate response when challenged again by the virus.

Some people need to go to immunology 101 class

You nailed it. Great response. Nice to see someone with their head on right!

Byte1 02-26-2021 11:18 AM

In the "NEWs" yesterday, it was reported that ALL Publix stores with pharmacies, in Florida will be inoculating with the COVID vaccine. They did not say WHEN this will start. So, for those that have had a hard time scheduling their shots, it looks promising. I guess the OP won't have to wait much longer...........unless difficulty getting the shot was just an excuse.

Whether or not you get the shot(s) probably won't matter much longer. The death rate is going down faster than the infection rate going up. Just my opinion, but I will bet that just about anyone tested with these inferior tests will test positive pretty soon, just by being exposed to the virus spore in some manner, whether they are infected or just carrying. As you can guess, I am not an expert and I am just guessing. Another consideration is that many of the positive count comes from folks that tested positive either by a false reading or a valid one, and then have to come back and get tested again either from their work requirement or just because they are worrying about being contagious. I would be real interested in seeing a legit count where each person is only counted on their first test. I am sure that would be an impossible task.

Disclaimer: I have not had a flu shot in over five decades. I have never had the flu. My yearly blood tests come back perfect (as far as being under the warning level) and I have no doubt that I would shrug off the virus easily. I have had two relatives that have died WITH Covid, and have over a dozen relatives and friends that have had the virus and none of them suffered more than about three or so days. That said, I got my shots along with my wife, because she has many medical issues. Whether or not the virus would affect our lives is a moot point. I researched the vaccines and figure from my layman perspective that these vaccines are safer and better than any produced in my lifetime. Even though, if not for my wife I would not get the vaccine, I did so willingly because I care about her safety. If there are any repercussions down the line from the vaccination, it is worth it if it gives me even one additional day with my spouse.
Your getting or not getting the vaccination will have absolutely no effect on me, so I don't care. You have your reasons for any decision you make and you have to live or die with that reason. I do not make your welfare my business and I do not take responsibility for anyone by my family and friends. You don't like my attitude? That is your problem, don't make it mine.

graciegirl 02-26-2021 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dhdallas (Post 1908449)
You are actually thinking for yourself & using common sense! Shame on you :-)

The government could not have designed a better thought control experiment if they tried (or did they?)

Now, the government, media, and terrorism organizations see just how easy it is to get the masses to think and act as one. Read my Invasions of the Body Snatchers article.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...ht-control.jpg


ALL of the governments, throughout the world???????????????

To what purpose??

Are you really a nurse?

Pat2015 02-26-2021 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1908076)
Are you thinking healthcare staff are worried, as opposed to a regular person staying in their house for 11 months. :popcorn:

Can’t imagine that more than a handful of very elderly and very sick people have stayed indoors for 11 months. Beautiful weather and beautiful place to enjoy a nice walk, cart ride, or many activities here 😊

Pat2015 02-26-2021 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1908105)
Well, whatever. I guess it something everyone needed to know. I’m 67 also and decided to get the shot to up my odds of not getting the virus.

To each their own....

Not saying he won’t get it, as he’s saying that he’s not chasing around the entire state and driving himself nuts when it will readily available in a short time. I agree!

Pat2015 02-26-2021 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by J1ceasar (Post 1908267)
Well you can have a survival rate of 99%, but you'll have 8 weeks of hell in the hospital. I've had my two shots.

That’s simply not true! Very few end up in the hospital so just stop with the fear lingering!😡

RDhot 02-26-2021 12:01 PM

Thanks for admitting you’re part of the problem and not the solution. If you’re so certain there’s no need to worry about Covid, it’s interesting that you are willing to get a vaccine. Selfish and lazy

jarodrig 02-26-2021 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1908105)
Well, whatever. I guess it something everyone needed to know. I’m 67 also and decided to get the shot to up my odds of not getting the virus.

To each their own....

I hate to break the news to you but getting the vaccine will NOT prevent you from getting the virus.

It WILL minimize the severity of the virus and speed up your recovery from it .....

coffeebean 02-26-2021 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by scottiesrgreat@gmail.com (Post 1908250)
I am sad for those who continue to want to perpetuate so much fear in people ...... what a way for people in the final years of their lives to waste away.

I think the people who love me - have more than appreciated that I travelled to see them - to spend time with them and to make memories with the grand kids - over this past year when so many have told us to stay inside - stay away from your loved ones .... you see we are all destined to die - for many of us - sooner than later..... Covid or no Covid.

Nope, haven’t received the vaccine yet - but, I take care of my self and I do not live in fear (and before anyone shames me - yes, always wear a mask and distance where I have to!)

In my opinion - I place my priorities - where I think they are important and what is most important to my loved ones .... being with them...... being able to see their smile and their eyes..... laughing with them.... crying with them ....holding their hands. Fear of something like Covid —- *** or, better yet ... let me put it this way ——— fear in death itself** —— will never prevent me from spending time with loved ones.

I know someone who traveled to see family and grandkids over the holidays. That person is dead now, from Covid. That person was very active and the picture of health.

Good luck to you and your Covid risky behavior.

coffeebean 02-26-2021 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GeriS (Post 1908300)
So do you know you can still get it, spread it to others & are supposed to wear a mask or two & social distance? Did you knowingly you wanted to modify your DNA?

That is NOT TRUE. Why don't you research this stuff before you misinform people?

This is the truth......
Will an mRNA vaccine alter my DNA? | Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance

jimjamuser 02-26-2021 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 1907983)
it becomes available at my doctors office. I'll not be chasing it around the state. To all you that do....kudos.

I'm 67 and my survival rate is above 99%. I've a better chance of falling off a ladder and becoming a vegetable. So I'll stay off of ladders, wear a mask where required, wash my hands frequently, use sanitizer(75% alcohol), avoid crowds out of doors, sneeze and cough into my arm and use ridiculously common sense to be safe.

Best of luck to all.

I for one do NOT have a problem with that decision. Especially since you are following guidelines that will keep yourself and others as safe as possible.

jimjamuser 02-26-2021 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1908088)
HUH? Please translate. I tried Google translate and it didn't help. I have absolutely no idea what your point is/was assuming you were actually responding to my questionable "vegetable ?humor?" in the 2nd post. ;)

I could NOT interpret it either!

jimjamuser 02-26-2021 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by richardc1947 (Post 1908227)
I'm glad you are willing to take the chance. What about other folks that you might infect and kill?

He did say that he was going to do his best to comply with non-vaccine methods to avoid spreading it.

jimjamuser 02-26-2021 01:04 PM

But, to state the obvious - there is no sun out at the squares at NIGHT.

ellenwelsh 02-26-2021 01:11 PM

Check to see if the doctor’s office is going to be participating in the program. Since they’re not going to be paid for it, they might not be part of the program.

golfing eagles 02-26-2021 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarodrig (Post 1908530)
I hate to break the news to you but getting the vaccine will NOT prevent you from getting the virus.

It WILL minimize the severity of the virus and speed up your recovery from it .....

I hate to break the news to you, but you are just repeating the same stupid idea that has been posted by many others who are ignorant of reality. Rather than type the same thing over and over, I'll just copy it from another thread:

Why does this idiotic rumor keep spreading????? Again, I challenge ANYONE to cite a reputable source for this nonsense.

Think of it this way-----why would all the "experts" be pushing the vaccines as the method of obtaining herd immunity and ending this pandemic if the vaccines did not confer immunity. Why spend billions on vaccines that only prevent "death" in the 0.3% of the people who would actually die from it. In fact, in a cold-hearted but social Darwinian model, why keep people who can spread the virus alive?

Yet , on just about every COVID thread, some yahoo pops up with the "the vaccine only decreases severity of illness and reduces the chance of death" Use your brains, please.

graciegirl 02-26-2021 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1908372)
I hate to say it, but IMO most likely the sickest of sick was probably going to go anyway?

Well you won't be hearing ME saying to my doctors, It's o.k. Doc, I am 81 and have a busy active life, a husband who is so good to me, I am watching two grandchildren become extremely successful by all standards, following their parents....I have such an interesting life and folks seem to enjoy me....just let me slide on out.....I am old and sick.

NOPE. NOT me...and not you either Bud.

Byte1 02-26-2021 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jarodrig (Post 1908530)
I hate to break the news to you but getting the vaccine will NOT prevent you from getting the virus.

It WILL minimize the severity of the virus and speed up your recovery from it .....

Wrong!

merrymini 02-26-2021 01:54 PM

Died of covid?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hifred (Post 1908307)
Tell that to the 500,000+ families of those who have died from Covid. Masks do help to stop the spread. Viral load peaks in the days before symptoms begin and speaking is enough to expel virus-carrying droplets. We can’t tell who’s infected you can’t look in a crowd and say, oh, that person should wear mask. There’s a lot of asymptomatic infection, so everybody has to wear a mask. If you read medical and science journals there is much evidence that wearing a mask reduces risk. We can't put links on this website but if you go to pubmed and search Face Masks Against COVID-19: An Evidence Review you can see what University and medical experts have found in their studies on the subject.

500,000 have not died of covid or the number of total deaths from 2019 and 2020 would not only be 50,000 different. Wake up!

Villages Kahuna 02-26-2021 02:00 PM

The Villages needs more like you!

You’re doing all the things that will not only protect yourself, but your friends and neighbors as well.

THANK YOU!!!

rmd2 02-26-2021 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oneclickplus (Post 1908368)
Giving your body proper nutrition including minerals and vitamins that boost the immune system is not "voodoo nutrition crap".

What is voodoo is injecting sh!t into your arm that will NEVER leave your body or turn off. It (rRNA) will continue to cause your own cells to produce these spike proteins causing a immune response. Long after COVID-19 is gone, your body will continue this process. It's not like other vaccines where you've built an immunity and your system is ready in case of future exposure. With this mRNA shot (not a vaccine), your own cells continue to PROVOKE an unnecessary immune response when no threat exists.

Congratulations - you now have an autoimmune disease.

There isn't enough money in the world to pay for the lawsuits when ... dare I say millions ... people come down with all kinds of autoimmune disorders because St. Anthony Fauci said it was safe.

Morons for not being the best advocate for your own body when mortality from COVID is something like 0.3%. Don't even think about telling me to get the shot (not a vaccine) for the sake of other people.

This does concern me. I just hope the 2 shots I got for COVID don't produce something worse. Everyone I know recommended getting it including my primary care physician, my niece who is a Nurse Practitioner and my sister who is a nurse.

Bill14564 02-26-2021 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 1908592)
500,000 have not died of covid or the number of total deaths from 2019 and 2020 would not only be 50,000 different. Wake up!

Show me where you get this! I've seen this claim several times and challenged the author to provide the source several times - maybe this time will be different.

rmd2 02-26-2021 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Patriceunger (Post 1908514)
That’s simply not true! Very few end up in the hospital so just stop with the fear lingering!😡

I agree with the few that go to the hospital but my primary care physician said she has treated a few of the covids in the hospital in The Villages and Leesburg and she told me "You don't want to get this." I took from her statement it was pretty serious.


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