Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2129549)

Well, those $10,000,000 football coaches actually MAKE money for the schools, supporting the other sports that don't make any money, so...

But yeah, the tuition bloat is right in line with the ever increasing amount of government guaranteed loans one can take...

Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2129561)

The government created the problem by making student loans available and NOT regulating the universities so they could not raise tuition in response. With the rise in tuition came the rise in salaries, and more. Universities became a profit center. And they devolved into the mess we have today - sort of like healthcare. Education and healthcare in my not so humble opinion have no business being businesses. They are investments in our country but improve productivity and competition with the rest of the world.

So, we screwed up, and we need to fix it. $2T of debt is a serious burden that students are carrying because our government screwed up. They were told over and over growing up - "YOU HAVE TO HAVE A COLLEGE DEGREE TO SUCCEED". Then they looked into it and found that would cost them $10's of thousands per semester, no way you can work you way through college anymore unless you are a politician or an investment banker, and if you ware you don't need a college degree.

I love the comparisons to the 1960's - LOL! Seriously? You could go to college in the state you were a resident and most of the time it was free or a few hundred to a thousand per semester. Yup, you could flip burgers and pay that.

I personally think we should regulate state universities so any resident can go to college (or community college) for free. Anyone wanting to go to a private or ivy league university can pay the price for it.

And I personally would rather the government spend $2T of my tax dollars forgiving ALL the student debt and canceling the program, than they did throwing away $4T fighting a war for 20 years in Afghanistan without telling the military how they were supposed to win it. Or another $5T throwing money at COVID and having 1/2 of it stolen.

Let's see help our children or fight an endless war with can't win? Hmm. hard choices.

Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2129561)

The government created the problem by making student loans available and NOT regulating the universities so they could not raise tuition in response. With the rise in tuition came the rise in salaries, and more. Universities became a profit center. And they devolved into the mess we have today - sort of like healthcare. Education and healthcare in my not so humble opinion have no business being businesses. They are investments in our country but improve productivity and competition with the rest of the world.

So, we screwed up, and we need to fix it. $2T of debt is a serious burden that students are carrying because our government screwed up. They were told over and over growing up - "YOU HAVE TO HAVE A COLLEGE DEGREE TO SUCCEED". Then they looked into it and found that would cost them $10's of thousands per semester, no way you can work you way through college anymore unless you are a politician or an investment banker, and if you ware you don't need a college degree.

I love the comparisons to the 1960's - LOL! Seriously? You could go to college in the state you were a resident and most of the time it was free or a few hundred to a thousand per semester. Yup, you could flip burgers and pay that.

I personally think we should regulate state universities so any resident can go to college (or community college) for free. Anyone wanting to go to a private or ivy league university can pay the price for it.

And I personally would rather the government spend $2T of my tax dollars forgiving ALL the student debt and canceling the program, than they did throwing away $4T fighting a war for 20 years in Afghanistan without telling the military how they were supposed to win it. Or another $5T throwing money at COVID and having 1/2 of it stolen.

Let's see help our children or fight an endless war with can't win? Hmm. hard choices.

Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 2129641)

Make student loan debt dischargeable in Bankruptcy or cancel interest if you must, but no way should a $10,000 or $20,000 (in Pell Grant cases) LOAN be forgiven. There needs to be accountability. My kids went to state universities and got a great education. NO LOANS. They worked, we worked and saved, and made sacrifices and choices. Too much student loan money goes for beer and pizzas. The responsible people paid back, the others get a free pass.

:cus:

Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 2129641)

Make student loan debt dischargeable in Bankruptcy or cancel interest if you must, but no way should a $10,000 or $20,000 (in Pell Grant cases) LOAN be forgiven. There needs to be accountability. My kids went to state universities and got a great education. NO LOANS. They worked, we worked and saved, and made sacrifices and choices. Too much student loan money goes for beer and pizzas. The responsible people paid back, the others get a free pass.

:cus:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2129607)

And there you have it. Welcome to the United Socialist States of America

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2129607)

And there you have it. Welcome to the United Socialist States of America

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2129607)

And there you have it. Welcome to the United Socialist States of America

Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2129655)

Unfair to people who don't live in hurricane zones to constantly bail out people who live along the Gulf Coast.

Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2129664)

It’s interesting how many Christians are angry about student loan forgiveness when their savior literally died on a cross to cancel their debts.

Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2129665)

Best post this year.