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JMintzer 08-25-2022 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2129765)
Paying for Midwest floods, like where?

Like here...

Mississippi River Flood History 1543-Present

MartinSE 08-25-2022 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2129782)
Anyone with half a brain can earn a college degree. If you are 18, why not spend 4 years and get a degree that will last a lifetime?

Hmm, how about you don't have $50,000 to fork over with no guarantee of a job. Just saying, not everyone is rich.

Funny how so many here complain that no one can afford an EV, but are quick to say just "go to college", like it was those communist countries that have free college....

MartinSE 08-25-2022 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2129785)
But they chose to live in a high risk area where homeowners insurance would be impossible to get without either government assistance or the cost of their risky choice being subsidized by the premiums being paid by homeowners living in relatively lower risk areas. Related to that is exactly how many times are taxpayers going to pay to rebuild New Orleans, which sits below sea level smack dab in the middle of a Hurricane belt?

Agree, and insurance companies are getting. nervous about home owners insurance in S. Florida with the ocean rising. Trillions of prime gold coast property may not be able to be insured soon, unless the government subsidizes it.

MartinSE 08-25-2022 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2129783)
Which crap holes??? Pretty much ALL of them.
Those with better healthcare??? None of them even come close to the US
Happier citizens???? Well, the saying that ignorance is bliss.

We rank 33 out of 36 in infant mortality----What a joke! That is a WHO trumped up statistic. Why? Because all those other 35 countries only count deliveries beyond 34 weeks gestation in their statistics. We, on the other hand, count any 24 week premie to a crack mother than goes "wah" once and dies in our mortality rate. Level the playing field, WHO, except they don't want to because they believe in socialist crap holes.

Guess what---WE ARE NUMBER ONE!!!!!!!

Sorry, pretty much everything you said is wrong. Sorry you are so confused.

MartinSE 08-25-2022 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2129787)
A friend's granddaughter went to a small local state college, lived at home, worked after school and during the summer break. Grandparents helped a bit on the tuition, but the girl paid most of it herself and received a couple small scholarships. She graduated with a Bachelors degree in marketing, a field that is always hiring. She then started working, while still living at home, on her Masters through an on-line program. Completed her Masters and was hired by Caterpillar Corp and is working at the corporate headquarters in Dallas, TX. ZERO student loan debt. She is very intelligent and worked hard to maintain a high grade point average and that is how she got the scholarships, through hard work and perseverance. You don't need to go to an expensive university to get a good paying job with a promising future.

Nobody held a gun to anyone's head forcing them to take out student loans. If someone is too stupid to research the career fields that are hiring and take courses for that field, I have no sympathy for them.

Okay, so your answer is screw the 43 million Americans that have student loans?

And what do you think, will 43 million students defaulting on $2 Trillion dollars of government insured loans have any impact on the countries economy? That'll teach'em. Yeah. Right.

I agree it sucks we are here. But, what is the solution, or is it like everything else complained about here, no solution just complaints.

Woodbear 08-26-2022 12:11 AM

If you are smart enough to know at 8 years old that mutilating your genitalia is the right thing to do, an 18 year old understands when you assume the debt, you are responsible for paying it off. Nobody was deceived, nobody was mislead.

If your college degree doesn't have enough value for you to pay it off, it certainly does not have enough value for me to pay it off.

retiredguy123 08-26-2022 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2129836)
Mike Rowe has been touting this for years!

Mike Rowe has a college degree in communications, and he is using it to make a lot of money on television. He has a net worth of $35 million, which he didn't earn by being a skilled craftsman.

Dahabs 08-26-2022 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2129549)
Well, those $10,000,000 football coaches actually MAKE money for the schools, supporting the other sports that don't make any money, so...

But yeah, the tuition bloat is right in line with the ever increasing amount of government guaranteed loans one can take...

One only needs to look at the obscene growth of endowment funds at private schools to see where the money has gone. As an example, Harvard's fund was $42 Billion at the end of 2020 from $0.5 Billion in the mid 80's.

Access Denied

Luggage 08-26-2022 05:07 AM

3 kids x $10,000
 
I demand $30,000

banjobob 08-26-2022 05:15 AM

I have never heard of 43 million going to default on their loans, this political giveaway is another screw the taxpayer plan.

golfing eagles 08-26-2022 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2129842)
Sorry, pretty much everything you said is wrong. Sorry you are so confused.

Actually, I'm sorry that you believe you are right. But then again, there are millions of deluded individuals, most of them having been indoctrinated by the media and universities, that share that opinion. I'm sorry I had to confuse them with the facts. And once again, there is no law preventing anyone from joining the "happy people" elsewhere.

Life as I know it 08-26-2022 05:42 AM

Tax cuts
 
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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2129492)
Back in my school/college days, I worked part time to pay for much of my higher education. And a loan in order to get by. It was tough but I persevered as many here in TV probably attest.

But if I would have waited to legally pay back my college loan, $10,000 would have now been paid back by the gvt. And taxpayers.

I’m such a fool. Always thought that it was the responsible thing to do. And gain personal satisfaction.

Nope. Now simply wait it out and let taxpayers pay some of it for you. Darn it.

Where were all the complaints when the government gave those huge tax breaks to the very rich?
Look at all the people here having their old roof replaced using a loophole and we are paying for that too. I paid for my own old roof, it was the responsible thing to do. It all evens out in the end and we all know the rich pay less taxes than the poor.

golfing eagles 08-26-2022 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Life as I know it (Post 2129882)
Where were all the complaints when the government gave those huge tax breaks to the very rich?
Look at all the people here having their old roof replaced using a loophole and we are paying for that too. I paid for my own old roof, it was the responsible thing to do. It all evens out in the end and we all know the rich pay less taxes than the poor.

Well, I don't know who "we" are, and I have no idea what those "we" know (if they know anything at all), but the facts according to the Tax Institute and the IRS are:

The top 1% pay--------------------------38.8% of all income tax collected
The top 2-5% pay-----------------------20.7%
The top 6-10% pay---------------------11.4%

So, the top 10% pay 70.9%

Meanwhile, the bottom 75% pay 13.4%

Care to modify the statement that "we all know the rich pay less taxes than the poor"?

Socialist propaganda without the facts falls into the category of Goebels, Stalin, and big brother.

Worldseries27 08-26-2022 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tvflguy (Post 2129644)
spot on. These handout programs, especially this one is a disincentive for personal responsibility. And as someone here said wealth redistribution. And worse, will be a huge hit for more inflation.

I’ve heard from news sources that many are terribly disappointed that it’s not $50,000 each or a complete payoff. What a joke. Our poor country (literally). Uncle sam is not only broke, he (we) owe over $30 trillion. We’re on the road of rome. Sad.

that will be the 2024 promise. You get what you vote for

Sandy and Ed 08-26-2022 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2129550)
Just as many EV manufacturers raised their EV vehicles after the GREEN bill was recently passed, to enable more EV tax credits…. Just watch univs and colleges raise their tuitions. Just wait.

Grrrrrrrrrr. Insanity.

Foreclose on our country.

ONLY if we are stupid enough to allow that to happen!! No, wait….WE ARE! Believe recent history in many other arenas prove that fact. We are doomed.


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