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Shipping up to Boston 05-19-2024 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by coleprice (Post 2332593)
Some Obvious Questions & Observations About the Officer's Actions & Motives:
1. What was a DETECTIVE doing directing traffic?
2. Why would a police officer "attach themselves" to a Vehicle and not release immediately if the vehicle moved or didn't stop? (Appears to be self-inflicted injury)
3. What does the officer's training advise them to do when a vehicle doesn't stop?
4. How clear was the Officer's instructions? Is the officer ARTICULATE or difficult to understand? What did they say? - it could have been confusing.
4. What other incidents involving unusual or erratic behavior has the injured officer been involved with?
5. What were the injured officer's motives? - Do they have financial issues and were looking for a way to "enrich themselves" by having a multi-millionaire be responsible for injuring them?
6. Was it really necessary for police to stop vehicles or could they have SERVED THE PUBLIC better by creating a detour that kept traffic moving while safely conducting their investigation?

Police have a lot of POWER, so with that Power comes RESPONSIBILITY to wield it fairly.

Not going to answer all the questions posed but will say that it is not unusual......in what is clearly an international level event, to have ‘all hands on deck’ for it. So the detective, although usually non uniformed, would be for such a massive undertaking. Happens all the time at sporting, concert events across the country.
Given the chaotic scene, do you really think said officer knew he was ‘attaching’ himself to a ‘multi millionaire’ vehicle to ‘enrich’ himself? Really?
Did you not see one of the officers in Darlingtons video ask who they arrested? Again, this was a pre dawn, weather inclement, chaotic crime scene. As I said before, just as a Mon. AM quarterback....I believe there is enough....shared, blame to go around.

fdpaq0580 05-19-2024 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2332614)
Not going to answer all the questions posed but will say that it is not unusual......in what is clearly an international level event, to have ‘all hands on deck’ for it. So the detective, although usually non uniformed, would be for such a massive undertaking. Happens all the time at sporting, concert events across the country.
Given the chaotic scene, do you really think said officer knew he was ‘attaching’ himself to a ‘multi millionaire’ vehicle to ‘enrich’ himself? Really?
Did you not see one of the officers in Darlingtons video ask who they arrested? Again, this was a pre dawn, weather inclement, chaotic crime scene. As I said before, just as a Mon. AM quarterback....I believe there is enough....shared, blame to go around.

Well, it's all over but the shouting. One thing I will say is this, if one of us was trying to make tee time here in TV and tried to drive around a blocked Buena Vista, we would probably be waiting to see the judge.

BrianL99 05-19-2024 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2332638)
Well, it's all over but the shouting. One thing I will say is this, if one of us was trying to make tee time here in TV and tried to drive around a blocked Buena Vista, we would probably be waiting to see the judge.

Unfortunately, none of us are the Star of the Show, in a $200,000,000, world wide showcase of talent.

talonip 05-19-2024 09:00 AM

How was he attached?
 
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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2332415)
Again, they keep stating he " didnt know it was a police officer"...which leads me back to my first post on this. Why does it matter? A human being is attached to your vehicle. Stop!
I can't find any report where that part is disputed. Look..hes a good guy in a bad scene...its unfortunate but it is what it is at this point

Come on we don’t know that. Did he attach a harness or was he just running along side the vehicle with hand on the door handle? It was chaotic with rain and it was dark with about the entire police force running around with all their lites on. In my opinion the PGA officials should have been out there directing the participants vehicles with cooperation of the police officers. The police officer should never grab a handle. He should have banged on the window with his flashlite which eventually he did.

Regorp 05-19-2024 12:09 PM

Scottie
 
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2332358)
There have been no posts about the situation at the PGA tournament yesterday. First of all and most importantly, condolences to the family of the victim of the shuttle bus accident.

That being said, even though the facts aren't all known, I'll pose this question for speculation: looks like a setup to me to try to eliminate the favorite from a big four major .

Scottie Scheffler----master criminal or victim of an overly exuberant police officer?

. Looks like a setup to me as they try to eliminate the favorite to win one of the big four tournaments. Go Scottie!!

HORNET 05-19-2024 12:23 PM

There’s a rumor that one Officer wanted him to hold up and another Officer ( behind the vehicle) wanting him to pull up and get going not to jam up traffic!

fdpaq0580 05-19-2024 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2332644)
Unfortunately, none of us are the Star of the Show, in a $200,000,000, world wide showcase of talent.

Yup! 😉 "Officer! Don't you know who I am?" No! And it doesn’t (or shouldn't) make any difference"! 🤨

Stu from NYC 05-19-2024 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2332724)
Yup! 😉 "Officer! Don't you know who I am?" No! And it doesn’t (or shouldn't) make any difference"! 🤨

But all too often it does

phousel 05-19-2024 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2332415)
Again, they keep stating he " didnt know it was a police officer"...which leads me back to my first post on this. Why does it matter? A human being is attached to your vehicle. Stop!
I can't find any report where that part is disputed. Look..hes a good guy in a bad scene...its unfortunate but it is what it is at this point

Not that I think he is totally innocent, but he is a celebrity. There are quite a few "nut jobs" out there! Possibly he was concerned that whoever was "attached" to his car, meant to do him harm? Maybe we should wait for all the details to "come to light".

BrianL99 05-19-2024 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2332724)
Yup! 😉 "Officer! Don't you know who I am?" No! And it doesn’t (or shouldn't) make any difference"! 🤨

On July 18, 1972, the Rolling Stones were on their way to Boston. Logan airport was fogged in, so they landed in Providence RI and proceeded to get into a semi-brawl at the airport.

They were arrested & booked for Assault & Battery on a Police Officer ... sounding familiar?

At the time, I was stuck at Boston Garden, listening to Stevie Wonder singing for about 3 hours.

Our cracker-jack Mayor Kevin White got on the phone and prevailed upon the Providence Police Department, to release the boys and send them by limo, to Boston. The boys showed up about midnight and played what's considered one of their best concerts ever.

You see, they were THE SHOW. Scottie and 154 of his friends, were THE SHOW.

It makes a difference and to think otherwise, is either naive or disengenous.

JMintzer 05-19-2024 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 2332579)
It seems to me he disregarded the police's directions. I don't think he meant to do harm, but he probably felt entitled to do as he wished. The biggest story for me is that he got out of jail, made it to the course in time to play, and shot 5 under!!!! Obviously the shocking reality seemed to have hit him the next day though .

Most of those wearing the yellow rain slickers and ZERO police markings on them...

And from reports, Scheffler DID follow the initial police directions for players and tournament personnel to go around the stopped traffic.

The cop who tried to stop him was not part of the traffic control and probably had no idea what was going on...

JMintzer 05-19-2024 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by villager7591 (Post 2332609)
I am giving the police a little slack. There was a traffic fatality 45 minutes before the Scottie incident. I suspect the police were in a heightened emotion when Scottie stared his drive up the shoulder.

As he was instructed to do...

JMintzer 05-19-2024 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by huge-pigeons (Post 2332613)
He’s a golfer, he must be innocent! Do you hear yourself?
Did you see any of the footage? Did you not see police cars with lights flashing? What was the Detective doing? His job!
That’s like questioning if you stopped at an accident scene that just happened and you wanted to direct traffic around people that got hurt, how would you feel if people disregarded you and hit the people that got hurt?
Say the cops closed a highway down because of a fatality, but you had a golfer go around the barricade because he didn’t want to be late for his tee time? He was in a marked golf car so it should be fine!!!
Stop blaming the cops.

He was not assigned to traffic control, so he was NOT doing his job...

Those assigned to traffic control told Scheffler (and other PGA personnel) to go around.

It's quite apparent that the Detective didn't get the memo...

JMintzer 05-19-2024 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2332724)
Yup! 😉 "Officer! Don't you know who I am?" No! And it doesn’t (or shouldn't) make any difference"! 🤨

There are ZERO reports Scheffler said anything close to that. If fact, police reporst stated he was polite, and albeit a bit confused at what was going on...

billsr 05-19-2024 04:07 PM

Breonna Taylor
 
Need I remind everyone that this is the some group that killed Breonna Taylor in an overzealous attack. Also, as far as the LEO's being hyped up, aren't they trained to be better than that.

graciegirl 05-19-2024 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2332753)
There are ZERO reports Scheffler said anything close to that. If fact, police reporst stated he was polite, and albeit a bit confused at what was going on...

Exactly. I am a huge fan of law enforcement but anyone who has remotely followed Scottie Scheffler just knows he is a nice, decent, well behaved person.

Shipping up to Boston 05-19-2024 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2332743)
On July 18, 1972, the Rolling Stones were on their way to Boston. Logan airport was fogged in, so they landed in Providence RI and proceeded to get into a semi-brawl at the airport.

They were arrested & booked for Assault & Battery on a Police Officer ... sounding familiar?

At the time, I was stuck at Boston Garden, listening to Stevie Wonder singing for about 3 hours.

Our cracker-jack Mayor Kevin White got on the phone and prevailed upon the Providence Police Department, to release the boys and send them by limo, to Boston. The boys showed up about midnight and played what's considered one of their best concerts ever.

You see, they were THE SHOW. Scottie and 154 of his friends, were THE SHOW.

It makes a difference and to think otherwise, is either naive or disengenous.

Fast forward 52 years.....May 30, 2024 Gillette Stadium, Foxboro MA. They're still THE SHOW!

Shipping up to Boston 05-19-2024 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2332751)
He was not assigned to traffic control, so he was NOT doing his job...

Those assigned to traffic control told Scheffler (and other PGA personnel) to go around.

It's quite apparent that the Detective didn't get the memo...

Or he was dispatched to and working a vehicular crime scene where someone perished. He was there, working. Whether he was in the right or wrong...that'll get sorted out. What I'm sure he wasn't (as others speculated on here) was part of a SS 'enrichment' dive for $. Not everybody is a PGA/Scheffler fan boy! Some people just work events

BrianL99 05-19-2024 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2332772)
Fast forward 52 years.....May 30, 2024 Gillette Stadium, Foxboro MA. They're still THE SHOW!

I'll be there, for my 5th or 6th show ... including the famous Sir Morgan's Cove "secret show" in '81. I didn't actually see the show at Sir Morgan's, but I was there when the Winnebago pulled up 😂

Shipping up to Boston 05-19-2024 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2332777)
I'll be there, for my 5th or 6th show ... including the famous Sir Morgan's Cove "secret show" in '81. I didn't actually see the show at Sir Morgan's, but I was there when the Winnebago pulled up ������

I know what I was drinking in '81.... underage at Whitney's in Harvard Square. But I digress

BrianL99 05-19-2024 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2332785)
I know what I was drinking in '81.... underage at Whitney's in Harvard Square. But I digress

Most of what I remember from that night, came from other's recollections. We got lost somewhere in Paxton. We apparently stopped at a phone booth (remember those?), I called Directory Assistance and asked the operator to "trace this call and tell me where we are".

Like said, we did see the Winnebago, so we had that going for us. :1rotfl:

Shipping up to Boston 05-19-2024 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2332788)
Most of what I remember from that night, came from other's recollections. We got lost somewhere in Paxton. We apparently stopped at a phone booth (remember those?), I called Directory Assistance and asked the operator to "trace this call and tell me where we are".

Like said, we did see the Winnebago, so we had that going for us. :1rotfl:

Paxton? Let's see Anna Maria College....Winnebago....ahhh never mind! ;)

Margefrog 05-20-2024 12:02 PM

Charges dropped.
 
Charges dropped.

michgary 05-20-2024 12:23 PM

by the way,, it was a 7 iron she used ,,,

villager7591 05-20-2024 01:05 PM

As reported, if one 'officer' waves him forward and one 'officer' tells him to stop, what is his correct action ? You are not # 1 in the world in golf. You do not have to be wary of golf fans everywhere.

JMintzer 05-20-2024 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2332773)
Or he was dispatched to and working a vehicular crime scene where someone perished. He was there, working. Whether he was in the right or wrong...that'll get sorted out. What I'm sure he wasn't (as others speculated on here) was part of a SS 'enrichment' dive for $. Not everybody is a PGA/Scheffler fan boy! Some people just work events

You used a lot of words there... Still not sure what you're trying to say...

JMintzer 05-20-2024 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Margefrog (Post 2333006)
Charges dropped.

https://media1.tenor.com/m/atJ7xlRpa...r-seinfeld.gif

Even Stevie Wonder saw that coming...


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