Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2112743)

How else would WE celebrate Independence Day, but murder each other.

Originally Posted by Wyseguy (Post 2112943)

With 400 million people we will always have shootings. We can trade freedoms for safety. I would think that is something many would find unacceptable. In NYC we had stop and frisk (done away when DeBlasio was mayor). It was extremely effective in reducing shootings. It was also far from what I expect or want in a free country. Taking place in high crime areas such as Washington Heights, the great majority of people stopped were minorities who lived there. Innocent people, a Dominican Dad working the late shift to support his family would be hassled and frisked because he was on the street at night returning from his job. Same situation as many call for now, restrict the rights of law abiding citizen gun holders in the name of reducing crime. Actions like stop and frisk, gun bans, will reduce crimes but at what cost. Both are unacceptable.
To control the shootings and decrease crime, elect/appoint DAs who will prosecute crime. Get a tighter control on immigration. Realize that diversity on its own is not automatically a positive. Bringing in people from diverse backgrounds is great, but if they do not melt into one people it is not. Countries with a national character, homogenous countries like Japan have lower crime. Punishing law abiding people in the name of increased safety is not something I am willing to accept.

Originally Posted by Veiragirl (Post 2112912)

How about this...BAN ALL ASSAULT WEAPONS. THEY ARE MADE FOR THE MILITARY. THEY CAN'T BE USED FOR HUNTING, SPORT SHOOTING OR ANTHING OTHER THAN SHOOTING TO KILL AS MANY VICTIMS IN AS SHORT A TIME AS POSSIBLE.WE ARE THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WHO HAS THIS PROBLEM HAPPEN ALL THE TIME.

Originally Posted by forebubba (Post 2112928)

Keep voting for those who reject common sense gun legislation.
Minority rules.

Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2112743)

How else would WE celebrate Independence Day, but murder each other.

Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 2112755)

What a chicken Al Capon was.

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 2112868)

What race is murdering each other in Bugeye’s Chicago?

Originally Posted by YeOldeCurmudgeon (Post 2112888)

The problem is that our culture is suffering from severe mental illness. You combine that with easy access to guns and this is what you get. No, it's not just the guns and it's not just the mental health problem. But combine those two and it's like the synergistic effect, and we have this explosion of gun violence. Yes, we need better mental health and yes we need more gun control.

To use Chicago as an example of gun control not working is an outlier and a problem with social conditions there. If you look across the board at other nations with strict gun control, it does work. The fact that we don't follow their example is a sign of cultural mental illness.

Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 2112795)

Yeah, just ignore it and have another drink.

Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2112743)

How else would WE celebrate Independence Day, but murder each other.

Originally Posted by Geodyssey (Post 2112966)

Who is this "WE"?

I've never murdered anyone. Speak for yourself.

But yes, that is Modern America. Look at all the people in foreign countries (Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, the ukraine, etc) that the US government has murdered or has assisted in murder (Palestine, Yemen...)

USA # 1 in something.

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2112975)

Here we are in a thread full of the usual arguments and blaming, but may I filter it down……………

How can families not notice they are housing a sullen, depressed, angry, young, undirected, white male who finds his only “friends” on the internet where they all feed on each other? Now the internet even has a special place for incels where they can fill up on hate for females and also hate for males who have romantic relationships.

How did parents allow their children to turn into monsters?

Do we need public service announcements listing the signs?

Do we need public service announcements about not allowing your kid to hole up in his room with a computer — just because it is easier — only to learn too late that a monster has been growing all along?

Pogo was right.

Boomer

Originally Posted by Veiragirl (Post 2112912)

How about this...BAN ALL ASSAULT WEAPONS. THEY ARE MADE FOR THE MILITARY. THEY CAN'T BE USED FOR HUNTING, SPORT SHOOTING OR ANTHING OTHER THAN SHOOTING TO KILL AS MANY VICTIMS IN AS SHORT A TIME AS POSSIBLE.WE ARE THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WHO HAS THIS PROBLEM HAPPEN ALL THE TIME.