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JMintzer 12-26-2021 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 44Apple (Post 2043007)
Next time I am pulled over for speeding, I'm going to tell the cop I made a mistake, please don't give me a ticket. It wasn't my fault, I thought I was doing 35, not 70.

Brilliant analogy... [/sarcasm]

JMintzer 12-26-2021 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by YeOldeCurmudgeon (Post 2043027)
Having worked in the newspaper business covering the police beat -- at least in my day -- the bad apples are in the overwhelming minority. But this was in upstate NY 30 years ago. I hazard to guess what it would be like today or in the redneck South.

Broad Brush much?

skarra 12-26-2021 12:15 PM

It boils down to a law was broken, and a jury of her peers got to consider all the evidence before rendering their verdict. I don’t think anyone can dispute that is the way it should work.

Maybe the laws could be changed - you could certainly debate that. But at least in this case it appears that the system has worked the way it was designed.

The verdict seems sound. I hope some leniency is given during sentencing because I don’t think it was intentional, just negligent.

Byte1 12-26-2021 01:11 PM

So, a police officer with over 30 years of honorable service makes a mistake and a scumbag is eradicated? Sorry, but I don't see the problem. Perhaps we need more "mistakes" happening in this country to set things back on even keel? Ok, the most she should have seen is a letter in her personnel file and then perhaps a promotion. For those that say a law was broken, the only law broken was the perp resisting arrest.
If you think this is a racial thing, perhaps next time you get pulled over for a traffic citation, try refusing to give the officer your documentation and then call him a "PIG." Then when he tells you to get out of the vehicle, tell him to go to h3ll. Let's see if being white gives you the ability to keep the handcuffs off of you. These law enforcement officers are doing an outstanding job, trying to keep the scumbags from your homes. Perhaps if the judges and the cry baby media would do their jobs, we would not have half the problems we have today.
Chalk off another scumbag eliminated from polluting our country. Sorry for the sacrifice of a decent police officer.

fdpaq0580 12-26-2021 03:31 PM

Hmm
 
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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2043079)
So, a police officer with over 30 years of honorable service makes a mistake and a scumbag is eradicated? Sorry, but I don't see the problem. Perhaps we need more "mistakes" happening in this country to set things back on even keel? Ok, the most she should have seen is a letter in her personnel file and then perhaps a promotion. For those that say a law was broken, the only law broken was the perp resisting arrest.
If you think this is a racial thing, perhaps next time you get pulled over for a traffic citation, try refusing to give the officer your documentation and then call him a "PIG." Then when he tells you to get out of the vehicle, tell him to go to h3ll. Let's see if being white gives you the ability to keep the handcuffs off of you. These law enforcement officers are doing an outstanding job, trying to keep the scumbags from your homes. Perhaps if the judges and the cry baby media would do their jobs, we would not have half the problems we have today.
Chalk off another scumbag eliminated from polluting our country. Sorry for the sacrifice of a decent police officer.

Bet you liked the movie "Judge Dredd" with Sly Stallone. Street judges who were police, judge, jury, and dispenser (executioner) all in one.

JMintzer 12-26-2021 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2043105)
Bet you liked the movie "Judge Dredd" with Sly Stallone. Street judges who were police, judge, jury, and dispenser (executioner) all in one.

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jimbomaybe 12-26-2021 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jdulej (Post 2043010)
As is true with all really difficult problems, the early, not well though out solutions don't work very well and tend to end up being ridiculed. By their nature, the embedded infrastructures are against change, as they see it as a threat. So law enforcement pushes back, the legal system pushes back, even the criminals push back. They are all depending on the current state of things for their livelihoods - why change a good thing.

HUH? The screw ball "solutions" were being ridiculed before they were first implemented , the obvious consequences pointed out, put into practice by that imbedded infrastructure called elected officials, the police have the function of enforcement of the laws made by other bodies, this is not push back, its easy to disagree with politicians, the legislature and how some police enforce the law but still they are all part of what you need to have a functioning society, the criminal element and anyone so inclined as demonstrated has been greatly encouraged , without the rule of law and to whatever extent there is no functioning society, these solutions been trending for some time, the next "solution" being only the cause for an expanding problem

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jimbomaybe 12-26-2021 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by skarra (Post 2043067)
It boils down to a law was broken, and a jury of her peers got to consider all the evidence before rendering their verdict. I don’t think anyone can dispute that is the way it should work.

Maybe the laws could be changed - you could certainly debate that. But at least in this case it appears that the system has worked the way it was designed.

The verdict seems sound. I hope some leniency is given during sentencing because I don’t think it was intentional, just negligent.

So you would be just as content if she was exonerated ?

Stu from NYC 12-26-2021 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 2043148)
So you would be just as content if she was exonerated ?

She should not be exonerated but would not be sorry if she got a very light sentence or perhaps probation.

Obviously she has lost her career and we are down one crook who if he followed the demands of the police would still be alive.

Wonder if anyone will name a street after him?

Bandb875 12-27-2021 06:15 AM

Medical malpractice seems to never make the news. It must be stressful when a doctor operates but at least the doctor doesn't have to worry about losing his own life in the situation. Seems we are holding police officers to a much higher standard.

mydavid 12-27-2021 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2042437)
I could not have voted to convict. She was doing her job, and made a mistake. Surgeons make mistakes that result in death, but they never go to jail.

I thank if she was a rookie cop things might have turned out differently, but a 27 year pro and the gun on one side of her belt and the teaser on the other.

jdulej 12-27-2021 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 2043147)
HUH? The screw ball "solutions" were being ridiculed before they were first implemented , the obvious consequences pointed out, put into practice by that imbedded infrastructure called elected officials, the police have the function of enforcement of the laws made by other bodies, this is not push back, its easy to disagree with politicians, the legislature and how some police enforce the law but still they are all part of what you need to have a functioning society, the criminal element and anyone so inclined as demonstrated has been greatly encouraged , without the rule of law and to whatever extent there is no functioning society, these solutions been trending for some time, the next "solution" being only the cause for an expanding problem

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So, you are complaining but not offering any suggestions other than "leave us alone - everything was just fine before iPhones and body cams came along".

skarra 12-27-2021 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 2043148)
So you would be just as content if she was exonerated ?


We are a nation of laws.

What we are not is a group of vigilantes. No room for that. Go somewhere else if you want that.

Sorry, that means no Judge Dredd allowed.

jimbomaybe 12-27-2021 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by skarra (Post 2043216)
We are a nation of laws.

What we are not is a group of vigilantes. No room for that. Go somewhere else if you want that.

Sorry, that means no Judge Dredd allowed.

The whole point of this discussion is opinions on the verdict, the how ,the why, where have I suggested any vigilantism ? How can you construe that from my posts?

Wyseguy 12-27-2021 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jdulej (Post 2042591)
The way I understand things, the fact that she was yelling "Taser" over and over indicated that she had determined that lethal force was not warranted. Then she shot him with a gun by mistake. Pretty clearly a screw-up which caused the death of an innocent (until proven guilty of something) USA citizen (not that that should make a difference). In most states, doing something like that gets you jail time. I suspect that she will get less than half the time she could get, but it will be years,

Agree, had she not yelled taser, and pulled her weapon and shot him she would probably get off. There were police around the car that he was driving away in. She could have said she was protecting the lives of other police. Regarding those who mentioned people should stop resisting; there are many videos of police beating non resisting citizens while yelling "Stop resisting"


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