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Taltarzac725 12-24-2021 02:46 PM
Daunte Wright death: US '''Taser mix-up''' ex-officer guilty of manslaughter - BBC News

This seems to explain why the jury found how it did.

jimjamuser 12-24-2021 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2042437)
I could not have voted to convict. She was doing her job, and made a mistake. Surgeons make mistakes that result in death, but they never go to jail.
if I was an advisor to Police Department, I would suggest that they wear their holster for the Taser on their dominant side and their service pistol (often Glock) on their non-dominant side - where they would have to use a cross-draw. That would be harder to mistake! And some shooters believe that a cross-draw is faster.

Ramone 12-24-2021 03:50 PM
No, I agree with retired guy, and I watched every minuter of trial and hearth Minn Law. Lessor charges should have been brought but the State A.G. Ellison wanted some white meat.

dewilson58 12-24-2021 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2042715)
if I was an advisor to Police Department, I would suggest that they wear their holster for the Taser on their dominant side and their service pistol (often Glock) on their non-dominant side -
too late, many do

dewilson58 12-24-2021 03:53 PM
anytime you resist arrest, you might get shot

jimjamuser 12-24-2021 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Aviator1211 (Post 2042533)
In the vast majority of the world (and throughout most of human history) the main motivation to go into law enforcement is/was to collect bribes. Most citizens of this country have no clue how lucky we are to have honest police. Its so sad we are throwing that all away just so members of one political party can gain power through scorched earth policy, and their lapdog media can gain ratings.


What honest man or woman in their right mind would take up a career in law enforcement in today's political climate?


So sad. Very very sad.
Probably retired military personnel that like to make extra money.

ElDiabloJoe 12-24-2021 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2042687)
Many of the people who thought it was a good idea to defund the police are coming to the realization of what they have done.
Yes, but the primary issue is the lack of common sense to have easily deduced what was going to occur.

It's great to realize you made a mistake. But if someone did not realize in the first place that lessening accountability and consequences for already-illegal behavior would result in mass lawlessness, then that person is the problem, regardless of their new-found revelation they made a mistake.

That's like me thinking how much fun it would be to tie a cinderblock to my friend's ankle when we go swimming. Then after he drowns, I realize it might have been a mistake. The problem is that I didn't realize that common sense deduced result prior to tying the brick to his feet.

jimjamuser 12-24-2021 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuly914 (Post 2042545)
Was this story all about him being pulled over for having an air freshener hanging from his mirror? Something doesn't seem right here!!
How did you get my wife's picture? ......If Police controlled robots and drones from a bulletproof car or remote location, that would take the tension down for the Police and they might NOT have to make such quick decisions in tricky situations. It is just a matter of time and technology improvement for this to improve the situation for both the perpetrator and responders.

skyking 12-24-2021 05:06 PM
"The first charge against Potter - first-degree manslaughter - is applied to cases in which the defendant causes someone's death while attempting to commit a lesser crime."

What lesser crime was Potter attempting to commit?

Not sure about second degree manslaughter, but this was NOT first degree manslaughter.

jimbomaybe 12-24-2021 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2042687)
Many of the people who thought it was a good idea to defund the police are coming to the realization of what they have done.
Oh it was a good idea, many have made great political capital out of it, like any politically inspired disaster they now back and fill, make excuses, finesse what they have said, with the media helping to do a little creative history writing, I hope to live long enough to hears some politician , right , left, center, outer space , any ideology admit to stupidity

jimjamuser 12-24-2021 07:11 PM
[QUOTE=DeanFL;2042606].
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Extremely well said, and I totally agree. When I was a kid, I wanted to be a policeman.
That never happened. I would hate for a relative be one nowadays. So often put in a no-win situation. Horrible.
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True, Police are put into no-win situations a lot because of the nature of their job. But, they get training and mentoring and, most of all, higher pay to compensate for those no-win situations.

jimjamuser 12-24-2021 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2042658)
I have more faith in the intelligence of police officers than you do I guess.

I think it'll set the precedence of more and superior training in the use of tasers, possibly a new design so that there's no way to confuse the two, and possibly even new holster designs so that tasers will be located at a completely different part of the uniform as a gun, making it even MORE difficult to confuse the two.

Perhaps a taser will require a different holster latch and be pulled by the officer's "off-hand" rather than their primary hand.

I think it'll make officers who use tasers in their job, more aware of which they're using. It will become more instinctual so that in that last split-second when they have to pull SOMETHING out of a holster, they'll pull the right thing.
I am in COMPLETE agreement and I wrote about the same thing before I got to your pg 4 post. Same general idea!

JMintzer 12-24-2021 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2042721)
How did you get my wife's picture? ......If Police controlled robots and drones from a bulletproof car or remote location, that would take the tension down for the Police and they might NOT have to make such quick decisions in tricky situations. It is just a matter of time and technology improvement for this to improve the situation for both the perpetrator and responders.
What could possibly go wrong?

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JMintzer 12-24-2021 08:30 PM
[QUOTE=jimjamuser;2042749]
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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 2042606)
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Extremely well said, and I totally agree. When I was a kid, I wanted to be a policeman.
That never happened. I would hate for a relative be one nowadays. So often put in a no-win situation. Horrible.
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True, Police are put into no-win situations a lot because of the nature of their job. But, they get training and mentoring and, most of all, higher pay to compensate for those no-win situations.
Higher pay???

Northwoods 12-24-2021 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikenbats66 (Post 2042566)
What would have happened if she did not have a taser ?
Tasers only became common in past 35 years.
Another reason not to have females as street cops .
Mikenbats66 help me out here... why exactly do you feel that females should not be street cops?


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