Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 1983171)

Talk of a need for a vaccine certificate to do things is a joke. Over 150 million US citizens have been vaccinated for Covid-19 and not one real certificate has been issued. Anyone with a computer, and a printer can create a so called COVID-19 certificate and I would suspect no health club , restaurant, airline or government office could tell it was not valid and deny anyone access.

While I personally got my jabs, I believe that the government is being presumptuous demanding people take this vaccine when they have yet to officially have FDA approval of its safety and effectiveness.

Also, how can this certificate be demanded when there is a question of the persons Identity? People can just copy another's "certificate"

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1983173)

And I'm not "fishing" for anything. Just posting "facts" like other posters...

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1983660)

Seemed like "fishing" to me as you posted the same question twice; the second time because no one had responded to your query the first time. Maybe I read that incorrectly and I apologize if I did.

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1983814)

No, I posted it twice because another poster posted his 97% of Doctors "fact" that proved to be suspect over and over again...

Add to that, I only posted a question (What's your point?) once...

Are you really reading my posts before responding to them?

Originally Posted by Normal (Post 1983832)

We are at a point where everyone knows about the vaccine, it is available at almost anytime to anyone and the facts are out there. If you want to risk not getting vaccinated, that’s your choice.

The vaccine isn’t perfect, and yes some get fairly sick or occasionally die after the second dose, but it does give liberty to those who risk it.

Get the shot.

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1982341)

The sky is falling, folks! Covid ain't gonna get ya, but hysteria/panic will.

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1990082)

This is not political..

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1990082)

I am glad that those who posted on this thread are not a part of the group of real people I know.

There are only a couple posters on this thread that I can relate to at all.

This is a situation around an illness that can be prevented. This is not political. Choose or not to get vaccinated. It is free.

I was so relieved when Moderna came to town.

I am so disappointed in the wild tales I read about this whole matter and the absolutely crazy opinions.

Originally Posted by John Mayes (Post 1990122)

Not to take sides on the pro-vax or anti-vax side of the argument but I have to dispute your comment that the vaccine is free for those that choose to get it. It is not free. You may not pay for it personally when you get the shots but taxpayers are footing the bill.

Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1981951)

Last year according to ICE there were about 40,000 illegal entries per month at the southern border. This year it has increased to 188,000 per month. All of last years measures to control immigration were rescinded by executive order this year including the successful wait in place in Mexico until a hearing on asylum could be obtained, similar to what you are suggesting. You might think a wall won’t help but as you say we should listen to the experts. The border patrol experts on the front line believe a wall is helpful because it slows down the flow so they can use their limited manpower to apprehend the illegal immigrant. That is why cops use barricades for crowd control, it’s one tool. But with the polarization in society I don’t think compromise is possible because no one wants to take the first step or give an inch.

Originally Posted by S=kBlogW (Post 1981806)

Why would it be doomed? I have seen 100s of comments here blaming the anti vax movement on Fox news. This thread points out just how ridiculous that assumption is.

It's a big world :icon_wink:

Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 1982082)

It’s a little silly to be protesting about a stupid shot. If you want get it, if you don’t people probably won’t care if you get sick or not.But keep away from me! Seems like anything we do or complain about someone starts a protest that leads to riots, why?