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Bridget Staunton 04-23-2021 06:03 AM
Love & support our men in blue. My family members were (gods paradise) & are great police people

geobet 04-23-2021 06:04 AM
We too have always supported our law enforcement wherever we’ve lived, as most officers are wonderful. We put money where our mouth is and fly the thin blue line flag along with our American flag..

Bobby De 04-23-2021 06:22 AM
Law Enforcement Support
 
I'm all in for it, couldn't agree anymore with the post.

Dust Bunny 04-23-2021 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1933655)
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I would sincerely hope that most of us here in The Villages feel this way too.
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The first line of defense needs to hear the support of the public!

I am retired from NCPD

DeanFL 04-23-2021 06:32 AM
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Well folks, I made an attempt to start a Thread with (what I thought was) a POSITIVE message. But as time went on, the thing went downhill with some responders. Most aggravating to me was the personal slams. I tried to take the High Road, but always rebutted with IMO baseless personal comments.

...perhaps if I began the Thread by saying "Support the 99% of our LEOs", but not the 1% bad apples. Or, I'm sad about the % of LEOs that may have over-reacted to minority communities. Or, preface it with whatever what may have mollified those who spout one-liners or condemnation.

As I said in one of my posts, "this is why we can't have anything nice around here".
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Pedrocarrasco01@yahoo.com 04-23-2021 06:34 AM
I fly the “Thin Blue line” flag everyday
 
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I would sincerely hope that most of us here in The Villages feel this way too.
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As a parent of a Retired LEO with 28 years service, I do feel exactly like that, if I see a LEO in trouble, I will help him, in my home you will always have food, drink and a place to stay. God Bless all of our Police, Sheriffs, Fire fighters, EMT’s and God Bless America!!!!!

J1ceasar 04-23-2021 06:37 AM
The trouble is you all want 100% perfection but the reality is no one is perfect we all carry prejudice with us and we will have hormones pumping through our blood and make us make mistakes in judgment. Yes some of us are bad people. It's unfortunate and that's why there's something called training

crash 04-23-2021 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1933701)
Like I have for my entire life....I trust the police....The constant dialogue about the less than 2 percent bad apples being made out to be the profile of the majority of the police force is just plain wrong.

How about we focus on the 98+% that do it right....every day.
How about focusing on getting rid of the 2% so everyone can trust the police.

merrymini 04-23-2021 06:38 AM
What amazes me is that people write 10 paragraphs and expect everyone to read it.

jbrown132 04-23-2021 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1933688)
I back the concept of a strong police department with humane, properly trained peace officers who know how to put their bias aside when it comes time for them to do their jobs. Honestly I don't care if they have a bias against the disabled, or if they're racists, or hate Jews and Muslims. As long as they leave that stuff at home and not bring it to work. But the second they step over that line, then the entire blue line disintegrates. Because of the actions of any singular officer. They rise together, and they fall together.

I'll gladly offer a thirsty-looking officer a bottle of water if I see him in the neighborhood on patrol. But if I see that same officer stop someone on the street because he's walking while black, that's when I turn on the video on my smartphone. Police are not a singular infallible entity. They are a collection of individual personalities. When we demand that they be treated as a singular unit deserving of respect that the ENTIRE collection hasn't yet earned, then we justify how any ONE member of them can commit crimes against anyone who isn't one of them.

Humans are flawed creatures. We ALL have our weaknesses. Police are not immune to that, and it's time we stop putting them up on a pedestal. I've worked with the police, I've had to call the police for help in the past, I've been pulled over for speeding by the police, I've been friends with the police, my parents' best friend was a cop and he and his wife and my parents used to go out once a week for dinner. So I have no beef against "the police." My problem is with the individual officers, and the departments that protect them even when they screw up. They are the ones that give "the police" a bad name, they are the ones who need to be held accountable, and they are the ones who need to either be rehabilitated, or removed from the force.

No one is above the law. That includes the police.
Wow! How do you even begin to respond to this. Under your philosophy that means if you have one bad teacher they are all bad, one bad soldier then all should be looked at as bad because that one bad one has tainted them all. Let’s face it, in life there are bad people in every profession. There are bad doctors, lawyers, nurses, plumbers, carpenters police, soldiers etc. etc. etc. so the next time you really, really need one of these people and have to call them make sure you have your camera ready just in case. The rest of us will go on seeing the best in these people and not live our lives in a state of paranoia.

Girlcopper 04-23-2021 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1933688)
I back the concept of a strong police department with humane, properly trained peace officers who know how to put their bias aside when it comes time for them to do their jobs. Honestly I don't care if they have a bias against the disabled, or if they're racists, or hate Jews and Muslims. As long as they leave that stuff at home and not bring it to work. But the second they step over that line, then the entire blue line disintegrates. Because of the actions of any singular officer. They rise together, and they fall together.

I'll gladly offer a thirsty-looking officer a bottle of water if I see him in the neighborhood on patrol. But if I see that same officer stop someone on the street because he's walking while black, that's when I turn on the video on my smartphone. Police are not a singular infallible entity. They are a collection of individual personalities. When we demand that they be treated as a singular unit deserving of respect that the ENTIRE collection hasn't yet earned, then we justify how any ONE member of them can commit crimes against anyone who isn't one of them.

Humans are flawed creatures. We ALL have our weaknesses. Police are not immune to that, and it's time we stop putting them up on a pedestal. I've worked with the police, I've had to call the police for help in the past, I've been pulled over for speeding by the police, I've been friends with the police, my parents' best friend was a cop and he and his wife and my parents used to go out once a week for dinner. So I have no beef against "the police." My problem is with the individual officers, and the departments that protect them even when they screw up. They are the ones that give "the police" a bad name, they are the ones who need to be held accountable, and they are the ones who need to either be rehabilitated, or removed from the force.

No one is above the law. That includes the police.
You ruined a beautiful posting by the OP. They are touting support for police and you go and post how you video a cop for stopping someone who is walking while black! How do you know why he was stopped? Who are you to critique the actions of the cop? You know the old saying.......people who live in glass houses? Oh. Thats right....you have cop friends. Just like someone saying......I have black friends....to prove they arent prejudice. .

christine J Toft 04-23-2021 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Fredman (Post 1933695)
Why would u pull out your camera if u see an officer stop a black man. Sounds like you are painting them with a broad brush as being prejudice. You don’t know that police officer. Your prejudice is showing.
You really need to ask that question?

Nanny32162 04-23-2021 07:07 AM
You would pull out your camera because it is well documented that people of color are stopped more frequently than whites. My nephew-in-law is black, he is stopped at least once a month for driving while black. As soon as he shows his identification, he is a Federal Magistrate Judge, the officers start to back peddle. What would happen if he didn’t have Federal I.D.? I think the stop would last much longer, the car might be searched, and I don’t like to think that he would be treated more harshly. How many of you have been stopped for driving while white?

Petersweeney 04-23-2021 07:17 AM
The girl in the pink - why isn’t she on CNN ? Where is her mom?

billethkid 04-23-2021 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by crash (Post 1933951)
How about focusing on getting rid of the 2% so everyone can trust the police.
Exactly what the politicians, the media, special interest and minority groups dwell upon, presenting the 2% as though it represents the overall behavior of the police.

Because of the 98+% we do trust the police!!

bluecenturian 04-23-2021 07:27 AM
How do you know the officer stopped him because he was “walking while black”. Did you see the entire encounter? Did you find out why he was stopped? Did you get the same reports at briefing the officer got about someone wanted for committing a crime that matched his description? Did you read the reports where the “victim” provided that description? Do you know that minorities are 5 times as likely to be a victim of a violent crime? Did you know a member of the same minority group is the suspect in 87% of those crimes?

Have you ever walked down the street in a minority community? And if so have you ever seen a person and cross the street or thought he looks suspicious? Have you ever called 911 to report a suspicious person with no evidence they committed a crime but they “looked” suspicious to you? Have you had any human behavioral training to learn what people do when they are up to no good?

Have you ever risked not coming home to your family and making your spouse a widow or your kids orphans so that someone you don’t even know can live another day ?

You need to have some serious self reflection and realize what you said is full of prejudice. Most people who find fault in strangers do so because of the faults they find in themselves but just don’t want to recognize it.

meridian5850 04-23-2021 07:29 AM
I had and continue to have a lot of family in law enforcement. They put up with a lot of crap from people on a daily basis. However, the following is true of the vast majority of LEOs in the country, especially in large urban areas:

"I have pulled dead, mangled bodies from cars.
I have lied to people as they were dying.
I said you are going to be fine as I held their hand and watched the life fade out.
I have held dying babies. Bought lunch for people who were mentally ill and haven't eaten in a while.
I have had people try to stab me. Fought with men trying to shoot me.

I've been attacked by women while I was arresting their husband who had just severely beat them.
I have held towels on bullet wounds.
Done CPR when I knew it wouldn't help just to make family members feel better.
I have torn down doors, fought in drug houses. Chased fugitives through the woods.
I have been in high-speed car chases.
Foot chases across an interstate during rush hour traffic.
I have been in crashes. Been squeezing the trigger about to kill a man when they came to their senses and stopped. Waded through large angry crowds by myself.
Drove like a madman to help a fellow officer. Let little kids who don't have much sit in my patrol car and pretend they are a cop for their birthday.

I have taken a lot of people to jail. Given many breaks. Prayed for people I don't even know. Yes, and at times I have been "violent" when I had to be. I have been kind when I could.
I admit I have driven to some dark place and cried by myself when I was overwhelmed.
I have missed Christmas and other holidays more than I wanted to.

Every cop I know has done all these things and more for lousy pay, exhausting hours, and a short life expectancy.

We don't want your pity, I don't even ask for your respect. Just let us do our jobs without killing us."

EileenRo 04-23-2021 07:29 AM
Because too many black and brown people are being killed when they are pulled over by the police...

DaleDivine 04-23-2021 07:34 AM
I have worked with police for years and have a thin blue line flag proudly displayed on my golf cart. I had a couple of women in TV asked me what it was for and I told them I support the police and one replied "Well we don't". This was long before the George Floyd incident.
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Gogreyhound 04-23-2021 07:34 AM
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Well said,I absolutely feel the same way. My son is a proud officer of the NYPD, and he loves his job. I worry about him daily but he loves what he does and that makes me happy. Most police officers are out there in sometimes unpredictable and dangerous situations doing a great job of keeping us safe. For that I thank all the hard working police officers and I support all of them.

DAVES 04-23-2021 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1933673)
And let us not forget that those of us who back our police are in the majority.

Contrary to the images and agendas of too many politicians, media, special interest and minority groups!!!!!
The tactic is obvious. They clearly think if they yell louder and yell fouler they will seem important.

Sadly, history shows that it does work. Nothing new.

Proveone 04-23-2021 07:50 AM
"Funny" commentary, really I am laughing. You must be talking about yourself because you are a minority and will continue to be going into the future. You better hope the majority doesn't look at and treat you they way you do to them. Special interests - you mean Police Unions who support bad cops! Pathetic commentaries.

Two Bills 04-23-2021 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 1933952)
What amazes me is that people write 10 paragraphs and expect everyone to read it.
What amazes me are people who have an opinion, yet never bother to read all the posts!:icon_wink:

Proveone 04-23-2021 07:53 AM
Thanks! Well said!

Bay Kid 04-23-2021 08:02 AM
Life without police would be a terrible place to be. Seems like some prefer crooks over police. We are becoming a sad country.

Cheapbas 04-23-2021 08:11 AM
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STOP IT RIGHT NOW!!! I'm the OP. And I posted the illustration for ONE REASON - to show MY support.

If others AS YOU must degrade and condemn and assume the worst - yes it will be closed. Some folks here sit behind their keyboard and simply MUST slam others or their points of view.

Reminds me of what my mother said when my brothers and I horsed around the house...

"This is why we can't have anything nice around here!"

The 'usual suspects' come out, and many times ruin, what could be, a positive discussion.
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Oh for criss sakes, yes they have a very difficult job, but stop with the genuflecting and hailing the ground they walk on. They get paid. There are plenty of risky professions that deserve equal billing.

You dragged this down from some right leaning website and they made it available for a reason. Police vs Black is very much in the news spotlight, probably #1 right now. Whoever wrote this pro police sentiment had anti black running in the background. That was the intent.

Seriously they are not the baby Jesus, you can just simply respect what they do. Get off your knees, stop bowing, this “all hail police” notice has certain racial undertones.

BTW, why was the thin blue line flag being carried by the white supremist rally in Charlottesville?

Jokomo 04-23-2021 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Fredman (Post 1933695)
Why would u pull out your camera if u see an officer stop a black man. Sounds like you are painting them with a broad brush as being prejudice. You don’t know that police officer. Your prejudice is showing.
Because a picture is worth a thousand words. Nothing to see? Then the camera’s not an issue. Something wrong happening? Then I want my camera and everyone else’s focused on that action. And the officers need body cameras as well. It eliminates a huge amount of disinformation and protects the Officer from false charges.

Bucco 04-23-2021 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Cheapbas (Post 1934038)
Oh for criss sakes, yes they have a very difficult job, but stop with the genuflecting and hailing the ground they walk on. They get paid. There are plenty of risky professions that deserve equal billing.

You dragged this down from some right leaning website and they made it available for a reason. Police vs Black is very much in the news spotlight, probably #1 right now. Whoever wrote this pro police sentiment had anti black running in the background. That was the intent.

Seriously they are not the baby Jesus, you can just simply respect what they do. Get off your knees, stop bowing, this “all hail police” notice has certain racial undertones.

BTW, why was the thin blue line flag being carried by the white supremist rally in Charlottesville?
But the original intent has been met.

Note, the posts are now “we” and “they” which represents a totally ludicrous attitude.

The “support” part is or has disappeared.

But this was and is the intent...play on a situation, create a “false reality” to vent hate. Never changes.

This is so far divorced from reality, it is ridiculous. There is no “we” and “they” except for the creation of alternate reality.

wisbad1 04-23-2021 08:38 AM
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I would sincerely hope that most of us here in The Villages feel this way too.
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Anytime! Thanks for all your service.

PugMom 04-23-2021 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by irishwonone (Post 1933874)
What I can’t understand is why you would reduce your police force numbers and take millions away from their departments. Somehow they believe they’re punishing the police yet they are punishing all citizens. More theft, rape, murders. Police need MORE TRAINING just like any professionals NOT LESS TRAINING. They are dealing with life and death daily. Are we blind?
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Justus 04-23-2021 08:53 AM
Absolutely Beautiful!
 
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Thank you for this! Few people understand the sacrifices, selfless devotion and idealism required for what has become a thankless job! Can you tell where to find a printable version of this so that I can send it on to family and friends? :bigbow:

stanley 04-23-2021 08:54 AM
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But this was and is the intent...play on a situation, create a “false reality” to vent hate. Never changes.
Now that sounds all too familiar..........and in a strange way I agree with that.

Gray lady of the sea 04-23-2021 09:00 AM
To orange blossom baby - the THEME today is DEMONIZE THE POLICE - NOT- SUPPORT THE POLICE. Have you not been aware of this. I am a nurse who worked for 24 years in a LEVEL 1 TRAUMA HOSPITAL in a big city. Would you like to know how many doctors that I have personally been privy to that have made deadly mistakes ? Several !!!

I don’t blast it all over the airways and social media that all doctors are terrible “Get rid of doctors in the United States “. Their errors were handled INTERNALLY.

A POLICEMAN’s job is more difficult than you could EVER KNOW. GO to one of these big cities and RIDE with one - and- get a much clearer picture of what they face EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY DAY. I’ve done it !!! I KNOW what I’m talking about !!

There are bad apples in EVERY line of work, but for the media to CHOOSE the POLICE to demonize is just - out and out WRONG. I KNOW what a city cop deals with. And I SUPPORT them with WITHOUT RESERVATION. I support the medical field WITHOUT RESERVATION.
You might want to research in 2020
1. How many blacks have been killed by blacks in the city
2. How many police have been killed - just doing their jobs.
3. Just how many blacks have been killed by police in a country of 350 million people
4. How many whites have been killed by police.
You just might be enlightened

skip0358 04-23-2021 09:01 AM
I support the Police 100%. Worked side by side with them on Long Island in the Fire Dept. If I see one in trouble I will assist them in anyway possible. I have close friends down here on the force also. IF there are bad apples they should be weeded out period. However Parents have a responsibility to teach their Children to respect them also. If I ever disrespected a PO when I was growing up and my Dad found out I probably still wouldn't be able to sit. Granted today's issues are also with older kids and adults, they to need to be addressed.

beaglebrain 04-23-2021 09:10 AM
I am 100% in support of the police force - pray for their safety when I attend mass - as well as often as I can.
I support helping them as much as possible and would gladly offer them any food or drink or other support if one of their patrol cars is parked in my neighborhood.
They have a very difficult job and way too many unneeded and unwanted critics. We need our police, especially now.

cbmerl 04-23-2021 09:11 AM
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I absolutely, positively agree! Well said...AMEN!

MrFlorida 04-23-2021 09:12 AM
When I walk down the street and I see a cop, I feel safe. When I walk down the street and see a group of gang bangers I feel scared. You decide which side you want to be on.....

BlackhawksFan 04-23-2021 09:12 AM
If it were only that simple.

I'm subscribing to Trevor Noah's theory. There are good apples and bad apples, it's the tree that's rotten.

Byte1 04-23-2021 09:14 AM
In the Villages, a police officer will rarely have to pay for a drink or meal. Every time I see one in a restaurant and try to pay for their meal, someone else has always beat me to it. I am proud of my neighbors when I see this. I have had nothing but good interactions with the local police and have found them to be very professional and yet very easy to have a conversation with.
Defund the police, my "@***!" They need more funding for equipment and training, as well as recruitment.

Left4850 04-23-2021 09:15 AM
Law Enforcement Support
 
Good officers should be admired.
Bad officers should be fired.
They do not rise and fall together.
The same can be said for every profession that exists.


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