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I fly the “Thin Blue line” flag everyday

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1933655)

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I would sincerely hope that most of us here in The Villages feel this way too.
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As a parent of a Retired LEO with 28 years service, I do feel exactly like that, if I see a LEO in trouble, I will help him, in my home you will always have food, drink and a place to stay. God Bless all of our Police, Sheriffs, Fire fighters, EMT’s and God Bless America!!!!!

The trouble is you all want 100% perfection but the reality is no one is perfect we all carry prejudice with us and we will have hormones pumping through our blood and make us make mistakes in judgment. Yes some of us are bad people. It's unfortunate and that's why there's something called training

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1933701)

Like I have for my entire life....I trust the police....The constant dialogue about the less than 2 percent bad apples being made out to be the profile of the majority of the police force is just plain wrong.

How about we focus on the 98+% that do it right....every day.

How about focusing on getting rid of the 2% so everyone can trust the police.

What amazes me is that people write 10 paragraphs and expect everyone to read it.

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1933688)

I back the concept of a strong police department with humane, properly trained peace officers who know how to put their bias aside when it comes time for them to do their jobs. Honestly I don't care if they have a bias against the disabled, or if they're racists, or hate Jews and Muslims. As long as they leave that stuff at home and not bring it to work. But the second they step over that line, then the entire blue line disintegrates. Because of the actions of any singular officer. They rise together, and they fall together.

I'll gladly offer a thirsty-looking officer a bottle of water if I see him in the neighborhood on patrol. But if I see that same officer stop someone on the street because he's walking while black, that's when I turn on the video on my smartphone. Police are not a singular infallible entity. They are a collection of individual personalities. When we demand that they be treated as a singular unit deserving of respect that the ENTIRE collection hasn't yet earned, then we justify how any ONE member of them can commit crimes against anyone who isn't one of them.

Humans are flawed creatures. We ALL have our weaknesses. Police are not immune to that, and it's time we stop putting them up on a pedestal. I've worked with the police, I've had to call the police for help in the past, I've been pulled over for speeding by the police, I've been friends with the police, my parents' best friend was a cop and he and his wife and my parents used to go out once a week for dinner. So I have no beef against "the police." My problem is with the individual officers, and the departments that protect them even when they screw up. They are the ones that give "the police" a bad name, they are the ones who need to be held accountable, and they are the ones who need to either be rehabilitated, or removed from the force.

No one is above the law. That includes the police.

Wow! How do you even begin to respond to this. Under your philosophy that means if you have one bad teacher they are all bad, one bad soldier then all should be looked at as bad because that one bad one has tainted them all. Let’s face it, in life there are bad people in every profession. There are bad doctors, lawyers, nurses, plumbers, carpenters police, soldiers etc. etc. etc. so the next time you really, really need one of these people and have to call them make sure you have your camera ready just in case. The rest of us will go on seeing the best in these people and not live our lives in a state of paranoia.

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1933688)

You ruined a beautiful posting by the OP. They are touting support for police and you go and post how you video a cop for stopping someone who is walking while black! How do you know why he was stopped? Who are you to critique the actions of the cop? You know the old saying.......people who live in glass houses? Oh. Thats right....you have cop friends. Just like someone saying......I have black friends....to prove they arent prejudice. .

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Originally Posted by Fredman (Post 1933695)

Why would u pull out your camera if u see an officer stop a black man. Sounds like you are painting them with a broad brush as being prejudice. You don’t know that police officer. Your prejudice is showing.

You really need to ask that question?

You would pull out your camera because it is well documented that people of color are stopped more frequently than whites. My nephew-in-law is black, he is stopped at least once a month for driving while black. As soon as he shows his identification, he is a Federal Magistrate Judge, the officers start to back peddle. What would happen if he didn’t have Federal I.D.? I think the stop would last much longer, the car might be searched, and I don’t like to think that he would be treated more harshly. How many of you have been stopped for driving while white?

The girl in the pink - why isn’t she on CNN ? Where is her mom?

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Originally Posted by crash (Post 1933951)

How about focusing on getting rid of the 2% so everyone can trust the police.

Exactly what the politicians, the media, special interest and minority groups dwell upon, presenting the 2% as though it represents the overall behavior of the police.

Because of the 98+% we do trust the police!!

How do you know the officer stopped him because he was “walking while black”. Did you see the entire encounter? Did you find out why he was stopped? Did you get the same reports at briefing the officer got about someone wanted for committing a crime that matched his description? Did you read the reports where the “victim” provided that description? Do you know that minorities are 5 times as likely to be a victim of a violent crime? Did you know a member of the same minority group is the suspect in 87% of those crimes?

Have you ever walked down the street in a minority community? And if so have you ever seen a person and cross the street or thought he looks suspicious? Have you ever called 911 to report a suspicious person with no evidence they committed a crime but they “looked” suspicious to you? Have you had any human behavioral training to learn what people do when they are up to no good?

Have you ever risked not coming home to your family and making your spouse a widow or your kids orphans so that someone you don’t even know can live another day ?

You need to have some serious self reflection and realize what you said is full of prejudice. Most people who find fault in strangers do so because of the faults they find in themselves but just don’t want to recognize it.

I had and continue to have a lot of family in law enforcement. They put up with a lot of crap from people on a daily basis. However, the following is true of the vast majority of LEOs in the country, especially in large urban areas:

"I have pulled dead, mangled bodies from cars.
I have lied to people as they were dying.
I said you are going to be fine as I held their hand and watched the life fade out.
I have held dying babies. Bought lunch for people who were mentally ill and haven't eaten in a while.
I have had people try to stab me. Fought with men trying to shoot me.

I've been attacked by women while I was arresting their husband who had just severely beat them.
I have held towels on bullet wounds.
Done CPR when I knew it wouldn't help just to make family members feel better.
I have torn down doors, fought in drug houses. Chased fugitives through the woods.
I have been in high-speed car chases.
Foot chases across an interstate during rush hour traffic.
I have been in crashes. Been squeezing the trigger about to kill a man when they came to their senses and stopped. Waded through large angry crowds by myself.
Drove like a madman to help a fellow officer. Let little kids who don't have much sit in my patrol car and pretend they are a cop for their birthday.

I have taken a lot of people to jail. Given many breaks. Prayed for people I don't even know. Yes, and at times I have been "violent" when I had to be. I have been kind when I could.
I admit I have driven to some dark place and cried by myself when I was overwhelmed.
I have missed Christmas and other holidays more than I wanted to.

Every cop I know has done all these things and more for lousy pay, exhausting hours, and a short life expectancy.

We don't want your pity, I don't even ask for your respect. Just let us do our jobs without killing us."

Because too many black and brown people are being killed when they are pulled over by the police...

I have worked with police for years and have a thin blue line flag proudly displayed on my golf cart. I had a couple of women in TV asked me what it was for and I told them I support the police and one replied "Well we don't". This was long before the George Floyd incident.
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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1933655)

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Well said,I absolutely feel the same way. My son is a proud officer of the NYPD, and he loves his job. I worry about him daily but he loves what he does and that makes me happy. Most police officers are out there in sometimes unpredictable and dangerous situations doing a great job of keeping us safe. For that I thank all the hard working police officers and I support all of them.