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Windguy 06-03-2020 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dgizzi (Post 1776320)
We need to stand up to the criminals and not let them get away with this.

How about also standing up to the murderous and racists cops who started this problem?

Windguy 06-03-2020 06:49 AM

I can’t believe some of what I have read here.

If you are more concerned about property damage than murder, it tells a lot about you.

GoodLife 06-03-2020 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 1776329)
How about also standing up to the murderous and racists cops who started this problem?

Take it up with the Mayor of Minneapolis since he is in charge of Police there.

HeyGeorge 06-03-2020 07:33 AM

???

billethkid 06-03-2020 07:40 AM

Having a plan to address those who would harm your family or destroy your property is no more aggressive than having fire departments nearby to "BE PREPARED" to fight a fire.....that could threaten your life or destroy your property.

All too easy for those who have nothing invested in a possible event to intellectualize from a pulpit/keyboard.

Don5154 06-03-2020 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 1776336)
I can’t believe some of what I have read here.

If you are more concerned about property damage than murder, it tells a lot about you.

How about you invite them to your house 🤔....sit them down and talk about their concerns. Perhaps you can hand out free TV’s.

regas56 06-03-2020 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by greenflash245 (Post 1776309)
oh boy, the Wild West!

Which by the way was far FAR safer then places like Chicago, Baltimore or St Louis are today..

Two Bills 06-03-2020 08:14 AM

Public Health Warning

It is advised that knocking on house doors after dark in The Villages, could seriously endanger your Health!

bobnyce 06-03-2020 08:26 AM

Looters, Rioters, Arsonists
 
I was wondering what would happen if anyone caught looting, rioting or involved in arson would lose their $600/week unemployment bonus? Just a thought.

theruizs 06-03-2020 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Marvic 1 (Post 1776010)
Hehehe! .... I like that :coolsmiley:, ... So what is he saying::popcorn:

God and a gun? Remember, you’re going to meet him some day too, the same God that said “thou shall not kill.”

theruizs 06-03-2020 08:36 AM

Just in case anyone brings it up based on my comment - Yes, I would rather loose everything I own, including my life, to avoid taking a life.

New Englander 06-03-2020 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 1776329)
How about also standing up to the murderous and racists cops who started this problem?

We did. He's in Jail.

billethkid 06-03-2020 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1776451)
Just in case anyone brings it up based on my comment - Yes, I would rather loose everything I own, including my life, to avoid taking a life.

And then they would move on to your wife and children!!!!!

theruizs 06-03-2020 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1776460)
And then they would move on to your wife and children!!!!!

Perhaps, and we would be standing clean before the Creator. Life does not end with the death of the body, that’s when your real life actually begins. Don’t let your attachment to things (including your body) mess that up later.

manaboutown 06-03-2020 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1776451)
Just in case anyone brings it up based on my comment - Yes, I would rather loose everything I own, including my life, to avoid taking a life.

Would you mind losing the lives of your wife and children to avoid taking a life?

billethkid 06-03-2020 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1776460)
And then they would move on to your wife and children!!!!!

Nothing to stop you from hurting them or scaring them off or making them think twice about coming after you and family!!!

Stu from NYC 06-03-2020 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1776473)
Would you mind losing the lives of your wife and children to avoid taking a life?

Very good point

Stu from NYC 06-03-2020 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bobnyce (Post 1776438)
I was wondering what would happen if anyone caught looting, rioting or involved in arson would lose their $600/week unemployment bonus? Just a thought.

Very good

charlieo1126@gmail.com 06-03-2020 09:20 AM

I worry very little about bring the victim of a home invasion or a looter , I worry a lot about the many gun owners here heading into the years where memory issues may cloud there judgement

Rodneysblue 06-03-2020 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1776471)
Perhaps, and we would be standing clean before the Creator. Life does not end with the death of the body, that’s when your real life actually begins. Don’t let your attachment to things (including your body) mess that up later.

So what your saying is, just lay down and die?

mflasch 06-03-2020 09:58 AM

That same attitude should be in place in every city in the country where the rabid animals are killing, rioting, burning and destroying everything. I cannot understand why authorities are allowing these mobs to continue to assemble.

Stu from NYC 06-03-2020 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1776492)
I worry very little about bring the victim of a home invasion or a looter , I worry a lot about the many gun owners here heading into the years where memory issues may cloud there judgement

Lots of people here with guns and when was the last time you saw a local commit a crime with a handgun?

theruizs 06-03-2020 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rodneysblue (Post 1776513)
So what your saying is, just lay down and die?

If that’s how you want to look at it. I do what is reasonable to protect myself and my family, but it will not involve taking a life to save one.

Curtisbwp 06-03-2020 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1775977)

Steve what is your current plan if Wildwood, leesberg and ocala converege upon the villages.

anothersteve 06-03-2020 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Curtisbwp (Post 1776571)
Steve what is your current plan if Wildwood, leesberg and ocala converege upon the villages.

Stand my ground and do as the Sheriff suggested if it came down to that.
If you think I'm going to go out looking for trouble, I am not, and will not. I am well prepared.
What would you do?
Steve

Number 10 GI 06-03-2020 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1776445)
God and a gun? Remember, you’re going to meet him some day too, the same God that said “thou shall not kill.”

From my reading of studies on this statement, it was originally "thou shall not murder". I guess all the military veterans who have killed the enemy in war violated the shall not kill commandment. Jesus said sell your cloak for a sword.

Number 10 GI 06-03-2020 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by kenoc7 (Post 1776364)
I think this post should have been removed by the administrator as were several other posts. Everyone who posted here is, in my opinion, an insensitive clod who has no understanding of what is happening in America this past week.

"Rioting is the language of the unheard." MLK

Most people with a thinking mind know what is happening in America. Looter and rioters causing damage to personal and public property, people have been murdered in some of these riots, where is the outrage over this? Hard working small businessmen have had their life's work destroyed because a bunch of low life animal scum who think it is their right to steel and destroy. The supporters of this behavior who try to justify the unjustifiable show their true values and morals and are no better than the low life scum. I can guarantee if your property was destroyed you'd be singing a different song.

Number 10 GI 06-03-2020 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1776492)
I worry very little about bring the victim of a home invasion or a looter , I worry a lot about the many gun owners here heading into the years where memory issues may cloud there judgement

How many instances of that have happened in TV?

billethkid 06-03-2020 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1776534)
If that’s how you want to look at it. I do what is reasonable to protect myself and my family, but it will not involve taking a life to save one.

YOU do not know that!!
You are saying when all else fails you are prepared to be killed or let members of your family be killed.

Hence my comment....until you are actually confronted with that reality....you do not know.

Hypothetically one can profess all day long!!

Stu from NYC 06-03-2020 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1776607)
YOU do not know that!!
You are saying when all else fails you are prepared to be killed or let members of your family be killed.

Hence my comment....until you are actually confronted with that reality....you do not know.

Hypothetically one can profess all day long!!

very true

theruizs 06-03-2020 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1776585)
From my reading of studies on this statement, it was originally "thou shall not murder". I guess all the military veterans who have killed the enemy in war violated the shall not kill commandment. Jesus said sell your cloak for a sword.

That’s what those who want to justify killing for “the right reason” want you to believe. I believe it was thou shall not kill, period. The young men who are trained to be able to kill by those who should know better have less culpability, IMHO, but yes, that is what I believe. So the same Jesus that said to turn the other cheek said to sell your cloak for a sword? Something’s wrong with that picture, or interpretation, or translation. And I am not claiming it would be easy, what’s easy is lashing out violently in return, it’s hard to keep control and put your trust in the Creator who has your eternal life in his hands.

theruizs 06-03-2020 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1776607)
YOU do not know that!!
You are saying when all else fails you are prepared to be killed or let members of your family be killed.

Hence my comment....until you are actually confronted with that reality....you do not know.

Hypothetically one can profess all day long!!

Perhaps. But I know it at least to the extent that those do who profess their faith in guns when faced with that situation.

John_W 06-03-2020 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1776721)
That’s what those who want to justify killing for “the right reason” want you to believe. I believe it was thou shall not kill, period. The young men who are trained to be able to kill by those who should know better have less culpability, IMHO, but yes, that is what I believe. So the same Jesus that said to turn the other cheek said to sell your cloak for a sword? Something’s wrong with that picture, or interpretation, or translation. And I am not claiming it would be easy, what’s easy is lashing out violently in return, it’s hard to keep control and put your trust in the Creator who has your eternal life in his hands.

All that is fine and well, but doesn't that same bible say, though shall not steal, how about looting, violence against others? Religion and war never go very well together, that's why the government allows conscious objectors.

Essentially these so called protesters have declared war against our local governments. If they had towels on their hands and names like Muhammand, they would be called terrorist. I really don't see the difference. Besides, what if you're an atheist?

You know there are 20,000 military veterans living in TV, and with the popularity of 'Shooters World' it seems many here don't share your philosophy, religious or not. This is my philosophy.


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theruizs 06-03-2020 04:36 PM

[QUOTE=John_W;1776728]This is my philosophy.

Of course, and I was just sharing mine.

anothersteve 06-03-2020 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1776445)
God and a gun? Remember, you’re going to meet him some day too, the same God that said “thou shall not kill.”

I'm not knocking anyone's faith, and I'm saying that right from the start before anyone gets their panties hot.
I was actually curious because I didn't know.

What Does the Bible Say About Killing?

Steve

Windguy 06-03-2020 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1776595)
people have been murdered in some of these riots

So, tell me. Were you this upset when some white supremacist drove his car into a peaceful counter protest and killed a woman and injured 19 others?

anothersteve 06-03-2020 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 1776336)
I can’t believe some of what I have read here.

If you are more concerned about property damage than murder, it tells a lot about you.

It's not murder if you are defending yourself, your family, or your property. So you think the Sheriff was justifying murder?

Steve

Byte1 06-04-2020 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 1776322)
The last I heard, non invasive vandalism is not a capital crime that would deserve the death penalty. If you replaced the “or” in your statement with an “and” then I would not have felt compelled to point this out.

So, tell me. Could you sleep easily at night knowing you killed someone? I sure couldn’t.

The answer to your question, is; I could sleep BETTER if I knew that person was not out there attempting to perpetrate his crimes on anyone. If you do not have the courage or determination to keep your property and family safe, then you do not deserve it.

Byte1 06-04-2020 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kenoc7 (Post 1776364)
I think this post should have been removed by the administrator as were several other posts. Everyone who posted here is, in my opinion, an insensitive clod who has no understanding of what is happening in America this past week.

"Rioting is the language of the unheard." MLK

Isn't it great that you are able to have your opinion in this free country? What has been happening in this country this past week is that anarchists and criminals have been paid to infiltrate demonstrators and create chaos, in order to further someone's nefarious agenda. The lawful demonstrators have already succeeded in gaining attention and success in getting justice, therefore they should disperse, separate themselves from the criminal element so that they can be dealt with severely.

Byte1 06-04-2020 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1776721)
That’s what those who want to justify killing for “the right reason” want you to believe. I believe it was thou shall not kill, period. The young men who are trained to be able to kill by those who should know better have less culpability, IMHO, but yes, that is what I believe. So the same Jesus that said to turn the other cheek said to sell your cloak for a sword? Something’s wrong with that picture, or interpretation, or translation. And I am not claiming it would be easy, what’s easy is lashing out violently in return, it’s hard to keep control and put your trust in the Creator who has your eternal life in his hands.

GOD gave every creature the instinct for survival. The whole Bible is full of wars and killing, including persons killed by GOD HIMself. I am a peaceful person myself, with several weapons created to kill. My survival is not up to law enforcement or the Government, just me. If a man will not take up a gun or weapon to protect his family or property, then I am sure that his wife will. Some might say that a man does not deserve to KEEP his property or family if he is not willing to protect it. This is a dangerous world and always has been. A person not willing to defend himself will become someone else's slave.


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