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jimjamuser 09-16-2021 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SacDQ (Post 2004957)
Most military spending is for made in America equipment. Other than that not very much. Not even our food staples are from the USA. Next time you grocery shop read the labels. Supporting the weekend farmers market is the best place to still find USA PRODUCE

Yes, good post!

blueash 09-16-2021 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 2004764)
We should certainly make sure that medical products are controlled by us so another country cannot hold us hostage. Remember the antibiotics made in china to the tune of 90 percent? What if they wanted to withhold it during covid? Certain chips and other manufacturing items should not all be under the control of other countries. I try to buy American whenever possible and reasonable to do so. Let’s get back to work.

You, or someone else, have made this statement before, never with a link to assess the truth of the claim. So I'll simply say that you are wrong. And if you actually care about the truth you can use Google to find real data.

It is true that there are legitimate concerns about drug supply chains but making up a statistic is not a legitimate way to make a point.

JMintzer 09-17-2021 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 2004911)
Yes I did, and the administrators helped by making it a 2 week mandatory go stand in the corner.

Only 2 weeks? Piker! :a040::a040::a040:

GrumpyOldMan 09-17-2021 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2005043)
Yes, good post!

In the case of food, local grown is better in many ways.

For one, things like "Fresh Apples" are typically harvested and warehoused for up to 6 to 9 months. They are then almost completely lacking in the nutrients they had when harvested.

Shipping food in from literally 10's of thousands of miles takes time and they have to be harvest early to not ripen before they hit the stores.

If is can be grown locally, it should be.

GrumpyOldMan 09-17-2021 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2005263)
Only 2 weeks? Piker! :a040::a040::a040:

:MOJE_whot:

jimjamuser 09-17-2021 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 2005269)
In the case of food, local grown is better in many ways.

For one, things like "Fresh Apples" are typically harvested and warehoused for up to 6 to 9 months. They are then almost completely lacking in the nutrients they had when harvested.

Shipping food in from literally 10's of thousands of miles takes time and they have to be harvest early to not ripen before they hit the stores.

If is can be grown locally, it should be.

Yes, good information.......and I would like to add that the red delicious variety of apple for SOME (?) reason is practically DEVOID of any vitamins and minerals. And it is not even DELICIOUS ! It tastes like wet cardboard to me. I ALWAYS, always buy the Granny Smith variety of apple. It has been laboratory tested to be the most nutritious of the commonly available apple variety. It does taste sour, but better than wet cardboard. The red delicious variety was the only apple available in the early years of supermarkets (like about 1950 where I lived). It was chosen (like a lot of foods) not for its food value, but because it could be shipped from great distances and not bruise. It also was attractive looking, but DEVOID of taste and nutrition. So, America.........change your ways and live the better, healthy life.......EMBRACE the Granny!!!!!!!

JMintzer 09-17-2021 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jdulej (Post 2004999)
I have always been amazed and confused by the reaction "normal" people have to any proposal to somehow make the 1% (really more like the .1%) pay their fair share. After all, they have the most to lose and get the most benefit from the government. Who wields the most power over congress and the pres - you and me or Jeff Bezos, the Kardashians, etc?
As an example - when AOC (yes, that AOC) suggested adding an additional tax bracket that kicked in only AFTER income passed $50,000,000 for a year (fifty million) you would have thought the world was ending. We have 7 brackets thanks to the Ryan/Trump tax give away, why does adding one more mean the end of America?

Tax give away?

The government doesn't GIVE you anything. They take from you...

JMintzer 09-17-2021 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2005001)
You should be willing to pay everyone a wage that allows them to afford to pay whatever price American manufacturers want to charge.

For every job?

JMintzer 09-17-2021 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2005010)
It is not a matter of people NOT being willing to work. They have just had their ambition to better the next generation beaten out of them. The ladders for upward mobility have been burned up by things like systemic elimination of Unions, the artificial difficulty for some groups to become homeowners, constant competition from legal and illegal immigrants and a "greed is good" mantra instead of a "teamwork and a rising tide lifts ALL boats approach. There are MANY other reasons like, what are all the lobbyists REALLY contributing to society? Maybe they need to be boiled in oil? (Just joking!)
How about limiting the size of farms and ranches? How about turning the clock of tax policy back to the 1950s that people today agree were superior in many ways Sociologically (not Scientifically).
Made in America was a big part of the healthy attitudes and social equality enjoyed by Americans in the 1950s. Also, foreign countries had not YET infected Americans with LETHAL drugs like beginning in the (about) the 1980s and continuing and getting worse today.

THE 50'S?

You mean when agriculture was LESS efficient?

When tax policies allowed the 1% to pay LESS that they are now?

Be careful what you wish for...

JMintzer 09-17-2021 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2005014)
I disagree with the content of that post.

Yet you offer no rebuttal... How odd...

JMintzer 09-17-2021 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2005038)
There is something that I always prefer to buy American and even LOCALLY American and that is, any local produce because it tastes better and has more vitamins and nutrients in it than produce from further away. And less wasted oil to support Saudi Arabia. I also like to support the small farmer rather than the big farmer or rancher. Big farms are usually using excessive fertilizer instead of rotating crops and wasting more water, fuel oil. and other resources than small farms. Small farms benefit larger numbers of families than big farms and ranches. In Ca. large pecan farms EVEN get greater priority for WATER than people. That IS some seriously inverted priorities. And that shows the problems caused by the POWER of big farms and their lobbyists.

More and more of your preferred Craftsman tools are being made in China and other parts of Asia...

JMintzer 09-17-2021 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2005041)
Not necessarily #1. Switzerland has greater income and wealth per person. And Many, many countries have a greater "quality of Life" than the US! We rank around 25th.

Who is doing this "ranking"?

jimjamuser 09-17-2021 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2005341)
THE 50'S?

You mean when agriculture was LESS efficient?

When tax policies allowed the 1% to pay LESS that they are now?

Be careful what you wish for...

AS I recall from 8th-grade math, 0% is less than 1%. Amazon has paid 0% TAX in several recent years! And over the last 40 years, men controlled by lobbyists have caused America to have the HIGHEST WEALTH DISPARITY of ALL the free Western countries in the WORLD. That IS one #1 distinction that NO ONE in these United States should or WILL go around BRAGGING ABOUT!!!!!!!! Thank me very much!

jimjamuser 09-17-2021 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2005344)
More and more of your preferred Craftsman tools are being made in China and other parts of Asia...

I actually agree with that fact and its implied conclusion. I want to bring back more manufacturing to the US. I would NEVER have let it leave if I were the decider. US Robotics when fully implemented WILL allow the US to free itself from Chinese, Vietnamese, and Mexican tyranny by manufacturing - because of cost equalization with those other countries. Congratulation - we agree!!!!!

retiredguy123 09-17-2021 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 2005269)
In the case of food, local grown is better in many ways.

For one, things like "Fresh Apples" are typically harvested and warehoused for up to 6 to 9 months. They are then almost completely lacking in the nutrients they had when harvested.

Shipping food in from literally 10's of thousands of miles takes time and they have to be harvest early to not ripen before they hit the stores.

If is can be grown locally, it should be.

What about those Balance of Nature capsules? Do they have any nutrients?


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