Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1774023)

Originally Posted by big guy (Post 1773258)

This article is too long and dreadfully verbose and confusing. Why should it be so hard to vote? It's a constitutional right! They know that there has been tampering with voting machines, there is less chance to tamper with voting by mail. It's been done since the civil war. Ballots are sent to every military personel in the US and abroad. No standing in line, no babysitter needed, no chance of being exposed to coronavirus. Those ballots are as safe as our Social Security checks, tax checks, personal checks, look at all the years we have paid bills by checks through the mail. We receive pay checks through the mail, transactions are carried on through the mail. Not safe? Baloney! A Democratic method of getting more votes? Double baloney!

There is evidence that demonstrates there is not a partisan advantage of voting by mail. While the availability of vote-by-mail ballots increases voter turnout by 1.9 to 2.4 percentage points, the voting method does not increase the share of turnout for either Democrats or Republicans, according to researchers.

A study by Stanford University’s Democracy and Polarization Lab compared counties with vote-by-mail programs to those without in the same state. The authors concluded that vote-by-mail programs have "no discernible effect on party vote shares or the partisan share of the electorate.”

Five states have all-mail elections: Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Utah, and Washington. According to Ballotpedia, 29 states and DC allow voters to cast an absentee ballot for any reason, while 16 states require a valid excuse for requesting to mail in a ballot.

During the COVID-19 (coronavirus) pandemic, concerns about the safety of in-person polling places have been raised for the 2020 federal election in November, as well as for summer primary elections. At least 40 people who voted at the Milwaukee polls in Wisconsin's Apr. 7, 2020 primary election have tested positive for coronavirus, raising concerns that voters were forced to put their health at risk to participate in the election.

On Apr. 24, 2020, the governors of New York and Kentucky signed executive orders requiring that every resident be sent an application for vote-by-mail ballots for the states’ summer elections.

Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy (Post 1774142)

"Lots of people" "many people are saying" "I hear from everyone" Who are all of these "people" that want non-citizens to vote? This is all BS. Rumor and scare tactics. Voting by mail is the way to go.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1773190)

No one asked for my ID when I voted in the primaries this past year. In person, at the Paradise Rec Center. I gave them my name and address, they smiled and waved me over to another table, where a woman pointed to one of the empty spots at the table where I could fill in my ballot.

I didn't have to show ID or sign anything to match signatures, or give them my birthdate or anything else to indicate that I really was who I said I was.

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1774281)

This shouldn’t have become a political difference issue, the only fact I see and question was , why if 57.2million voted early in last presidential election why it wrong for early ballots to be sent out know especially with the possibility of the virus coming back . . Now that I think of it maybe I’m wrong about the political issue with this considering that black and brown communities were hit the worst outside of nursing homes

Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1774411)

And therein lies the problem. You should have been asked and should have been verified. Under that scenario, any other person of the same sex could walk in, give your name and address, and steal your vote. Not saying it WOULD happen, but it COULD happen. And that is why this whole issue needs to be carefully thought out. Plan for the worst and hope for the best.

Originally Posted by banjobob (Post 1775037)

I am sure voter fraud is done on both sides but it seems the Democrats are always the ones that have the shadow of fraud on their actions, I guess we have crooked Hillary the fiasco that happens at every election in Miami/ Dade and the Obama scandals to blame. Or maybe it is Democrats only trying to steal elections.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1775046)

Originally Posted by ithos (Post 1774151)

Most of the news we see these days are from the internet. The sources I cited were extremely credible which is why you try to dismiss it with a lame attempt at humor. People read your posts on the internet. Does that mean your opinions have no credibility?

You had to respond in this fashion because you could not refute or debunk any story I listed as they were credible and non partisan websites.

But here is another one that just happened recently. You are going to have to use the internet to read it. It is ironclad proof of how elections can be corrupted with mail in ballots. And the aggrieved are overwhelmingly in the class of people that you claim to be the guardian over.

NJ NAACP Leader Calls For Paterson Mail-In Vote to Be Canceled Amid Corruption Claims – NBC New York

Paterson activist Ernest Rucker said his experience this election is an example of the kind of corruption that allegedly took place. Rucker said he never received a ballot but that election records show someone mailed in a ballot in his name.

In addition to apparent problems with the vote count in Paterson, NBC New York has shown video of ballots left out in building lobbies, of one voter handling many ballots, and reported on postal workers reporting finding hundreds of ballots at a time stuffed in mailboxes in Paterson – and even in a neighboring town, Haledon.

Wimberly said he is a supporter of Gov. Murphy but given the history of vote-by-mail controversies, the governor should have done more to allow in-person voting and to ensure safeguards were in place for those ballots sent by mail. That one in five ballots were eliminated, some due to alleged corruption, Wimberly said he was "fed up with this … That’s how you disenfranchise voters. That’s the bottom line.

“It is what is right for the people,” Wimberly said. “We need in-person voting machines with social distancing.

If you desire vote by mail elections free of fraud and incompetence, the solution is simple. Since signature verification is very unreliable everyone sets up a pin or password that has to be on the ballot. And it needs to be verified by at least two monitors from different political parties before the ballot it is counted. And then voters can go online and see if their vote was counted or invalidated. We have the technology to do this. And outlaw ballot harvesting with only immediate relatives or legal guardians able to assist in voting.

I would support this as it would be much cheaper and eliminate the need for recruiting volunteers for the polls.

Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1775080)

Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1775080)

I suppose you are saying, they found nothing because they failed to check YouTube or the internet. Interesting