Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2002102)

John Marshall Harlan is highly respected by judges across the spectrum of leanings. Chief Justice John Roberts placed Harlan’s portrait on a wall in the room where the justices discuss cases.

Jacobson had a bad reaction to a vaccine and when the smallpox vaccine was mandated, he tested the waters to the level of the Supreme Court.

Jacobson lost and was fined $5.00, and the “common good” opinion written by Harlan in 1905 is with us still.

Today’s vile, incited division is not a result of the small percentage who have real medical reasons not to take the vaccine. I do not think anyone with the ability to think that one through would want them to be forced.

But the fact remains that the current vaccine deniers' go-round is almost entirely based on the rantings of those susceptible to the propaganda they invite to invade their lives in ways that could never have been imagined 116 years ago -- OR those who are a part of the initiating and/or spreading of that propaganda because their goal is to make money by making fools of people -- or the most sinister goal of wanting to see the downfall of our beloved country.

It is interesting to note that the justice newest to SCOTUS recently did NOT succumb to the Indiana University students who wanted IU’s vaccine mandate blocked. Their protest did not get past her. (Note: The university allows exemption from the mandate for both religious and medical reasons.)

Here is a direct quote from the opinion written by the still deeply respected John Marshall Harlan -- easy to understand – or should be – summing up the “common good.”

from the Supreme Court majority opinion written by John Marshall Harlan, 1905:

“There are manifold restraints to which every person is necessarily subject for the common good. On any other basis, organized society could not exist with safety to its members. Society based on the rule that each one is a law unto himself would soon be confronted with disorder and anarchy.

Real liberty for all could not exist under the operation of a principle which recognizes the right of each individual person to use his own, whether in respect of his person or his property, regardless of the injury that might be done to others.”


(And there it is – in defense of the “the common good” – engraved in our precious history -- I guess we’ll see how that goes.)

Boomer

Originally Posted by b1ll649 (Post 2001441)

I am vaxed and according to the so called experts, I am protected from getting seriously ill from Covid. How are the unfaxed causing a danger to me and all the other 65% of the country who have also been vaxed? The millions who already had Covid and recovered have better imunity then I have so why should they get punished with needles needles or weekly tests? Also, what makes the postal workers so special? They come in contact with the majority of the country almost daily.

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2001480)

Vaccinations have been mandatory before. This is not a first. What about mandatory vaccines for International travel? How about mandatory vaccines for children to attend school? It’s been done before. Why is the Covid vaccine any different?

I’m glad these vaccines are mandatory. Maybe we can get a handle on this virus.

Originally Posted by drducat (Post 2001507)

This never was a vaccine.......so that is why the CDC on Sept. 1 2021 changed the definition...as I said all along.....only a band-aid.....Gives primary protection only...just stops some symptoms....Herd immunity will be achieved once the thousands of cold viruses have reached that point......aint gonna happen......how many more lies can be swallowed??
:shocked:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2001575)

Parents are not required by law to send their children to public school. Their attendance is not mandatory. Any parent who has a problem with the teachers being mandated to vaccinate, and their children to wear masks, are absolutely welcome, and allowed by law, to withdraw their child from public school and find another method of educating their kids.

Originally Posted by fishon (Post 2002272)

I’m sorry your lockdowns didn’t work.
I’m sorry your masks don’t work.
I’m sorry the vaccine doesn’t work better than a placebo.

Just to be clear, a laboratory that creates “gain of function” in viruses is making them more lethal. They are weaponizing those viruses. It is research for the purpose of biological warfare. Funded by the US taxpayers at the behest of Fauci.

Originally Posted by Escape Artist (Post 2002248)

Interesting argument but you're forgetting one thing - up until a couple of weeks these were experimental vaccines and no one can deny that they fast-tracked approval because of political pressure as it usually takes decades for the FDA to approve a drug or vaccine. That's not hysteria or belief in weird, conspiracy theories, just common sense.

No one knows the long-term effects of the vaccine nor what it will do to our immune systems, especially if we keep getting booster shots. Naturally people are worried and afraid. Also, the vaccines are only moderately effective. The reason the fully vaccinated still got Covid these past few months was because the variant was different than the spike protein in the Covid-19 vaccine. True, most didn't get terrible ill, although some did, and I know one woman who ended up in the hospital. Until there is a sterilizing vaccine that prevents infection they should not mandate these shots.

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2001869)

Not true.

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2001605)

There have already been vaccine mandates in effect.

Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 2001873)

I would question anyone’s intellectual capacity if they agree with howard stern. Just because people do not want to be vaccinated, does not mean they are ignorant or careless. The numbers for people who have died of the virus are cooked and the agencies who, supposedly, advise on medical needs of the public have been shown to be biased, political and blatant liars. If you believe that a virus can be eradicated, it is you who do not rely on facts. Maybe it is, you who is the idiot.

Originally Posted by Beyond The Wall (Post 2001877)

1938 Germany comes to mind.

Originally Posted by Joanne19335 (Post 2001857)

It’s about time that this vaccine will be mandated. It wouldn’t have gotten to this point if the unvaccinated surge of cases occurred. How much proof do you need? I got my booster shot last week. I realize that certain people cannot get the vaccine for medical reasons, so stop making this political and blaming the current administration.