[jbartle1]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

All employers with +99 employees.

OHSA, "employees in grave danger"??? Think not.

I support vaccinations, but not this way.

Reminder: polio Vax. No problem, but not the "p" word and folks actually were concerned about their children and others.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by stanley

I disagree with the contents of this post

You can disagree all you like. Fact is we have MANDATES for the vaccine. Thank goodness!!!!!

More to come. Stay tuned.

[Bonnevie]

Originally Posted by drducat

When a vaccine is made everyone will take it...not this stuff that is being peddled.

Oh for goodness sake. Even the governor of West Virginia has had it with the outrageous vaccine rumors. As he pointed out there are people who think it will implant a tracker in them but they take a cell phone with them everywhere. This vaccine has been proven to save lives…

[Bonnevie]

Originally Posted by Toymeister

My body, my choice! Isn't that a slogan for the political party currently in power?

Wait, err, ahh...

So it's not my body my choice?

Wait, err, ahh...

Apparently you didn’t go to elementary school? Because those of us who did had to get mandated vaccines.

[Bonnevie]

Originally Posted by davem4616

and to think that at one time I thought "1984" was a book of fiction

Well, why aren’t you as concerned about our governor usurping local governments and school boards? That seems way more autocratic.

[stanley]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

You can disagree all you like. Fact is we have MANDATES for the vaccine. Thank goodness!!!!!

More to come. Stay tuned.

Fact is it's not a fact yet.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by drducat

This never was a vaccine.......so that is why the CDC on Sept. 1 2021 changed the definition...as I said all along.....only a band-aid.....Gives primary protection only...just stops some symptoms....Herd immunity will be achieved once the thousands of cold viruses have reached that point......aint gonna happen......how many more lies can be swallowed??

Do I really have to re-post the dictionary definition of a vaccine AGAIN????
Well, I'm not going to. Very simply, IT IS A VACCINE.

Now, I have no idea what the "dr" in that user name represents, but clearly by virtue of content it has absolutely nothing to do with medicine.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Blueblaze

Mandatory gene manipulation.

Wow. Did you ever think you'd live to see the day when it was illegal to refuse to let the government re-wire your genes?

I'm an old man with asthma. I don't care if my covid shots make me sterile or deform my future offspring -- I'm done breeding. I got the shots. But is it so bad to give young people the choice to not have their genes manipulated?

We're not talking about the Black Death or Ebola. We're talking about a cold virus that about 0.4% of the time progresses to pneumonia.

And we're talking about a vaccine that intentionally manipulates your genes to produce a foreign protein for your immune system to react to.

Maybe that's completely safe. But before we commit the next two generations of human beings to this experiment, wouldn't it be wise to leave at least a few people UN-altered, just in case?

I see this idiotic theme getting repeated on this thread as well.

Oh well, let's re-post from the other thread:

OK, time for remedial genetics 101:

A gene is a sequence of DNA that resides at a specific location on a chromosome and codes for a single protein/enzyme. We have over 100,000 of these genes, and they are separated by sequences of DNA that we do not fully understand, called intercalated DNA. The DNA, when needed to produce its end product, gets "unzipped" by a specific enzyme (RNA polymerase) and transcribes its code to a template known as mRNA. The mRNA then exits the nucleus of the cell, enters the cytoplasm and a ribosome finds it and copies the mRNA to its invers, tRNA. The tRNA then assembles amino acids into a protein chain according to the code.

Follow so far?????

The mRNA vaccines simply enter cells and their code gets translated on ribosomes via the same mechanism to its end product, which in this case is the spike protein of the COVID virus.

IT DOES NOT TOUCH YOUR DNA, IT DOES NOT ALTER ANY GENES, IT SIMPLY ACTS LIKE YOUR OWN mRNA. CLEAR ENOUGH?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Vaccinations have been mandatory before. This is not a first. What about mandatory vaccines for International travel? How about mandatory vaccines for children to attend school? It’s been done before. Why is the Covid vaccine any different?

I’m glad these vaccines are mandatory. Maybe we can get a handle on this virus.

Vaccines for international travel are required by the country you're visiting...

Anti-vax parents have been a huge thing for decades...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Mandates shouldn't be necessary. People should be WANTING to vaccinate. This is a changed world we live in, where there are small groups of people who propagate lies about medicine, and those who believe those lies. As a result, we see a significant minority who refuse and reject the vaccines. If this was an insignificant minority I'd say "live and let die" and not give another thought to it.

Sadly, those promoting the vaccine have lied , as well...

There has been a horrible job of messaging...

[Toymeister]

Originally Posted by Bonnevie

Apparently you didn’t go to elementary school? Because those of us who did had to get mandated vaccines.

Apparently you are not aware that elementary school is attended by minors and that minors do not make their own choices.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Sadly, those promoting the vaccine have lied , as well...

There has been a horrible job of messaging...

The people who you NEED to listen to, who have been promoting the vaccine, have been wrong at times. They've also learned more as time passed, facts that they didn't have when they came to their initial opinions and guidelines. Science evolves as the human species learns more about it. Where once the treatment for a brain tumor was drilling the skull to let the "bad humors escape," we have learned more about surgery, chemo, radiation. Where once our ancestors might have died from scurvy, we now know about the wonders of vitamin C.

So yes - there's been difficulty getting the message across from the people who we SHOULD be listening to.

But there are people who we should NOT be listening to, making a whole lot of noise and pushing an anti-vax, covid-hoax agenda. Most of these people are easily sussed out, however there are too many people who want to believe fiction, because it's inconvenient for them to believe truth.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Toymeister

Apparently you are not aware that elementary school is attended by minors and that minors do not make their own choices.

Parents are not required by law to send their children to public school. Their attendance is not mandatory. Any parent who has a problem with the teachers being mandated to vaccinate, and their children to wear masks, are absolutely welcome, and allowed by law, to withdraw their child from public school and find another method of educating their kids.

[drducat]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Do I really have to re-post the dictionary definition of a vaccine AGAIN????
Well, I'm not going to. Very simply, IT IS A VACCINE.

Now, I have no idea what the "dr" in that user name represents, but clearly by virtue of content it has absolutely nothing to do with medicine.

And the new dictionary definition is??? It changed...thought everyone was following and doing what the CDC offers up.....they changed the definition on Sept 1 where has everyone been??? golfing??

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by drducat

And the new dictionary definition is??? It changed...thought everyone was following and doing what the CDC offers up.....they changed the definition on Sept 1 where has everyone been??? golfing??

Yes, they changed it slightly. As of sept. 1 the definition of a vaccine according to the CDC is:

The CDC’s definition changed from “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease” to the current “a preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.”

Therefore, the current mRNA preparations are VACCINES

PS: Where have you been?????