Let’s never let a good rumor get in the way of facts. Let’s take the long time myth of soldiers being spit on . I’m not going to say there were isolated incidents but it’s mostly a myth used by many different politicians and yes some vets . There was a book written many years ago called the spitting image by Jerry Lembcke he came to the same conclusions as I had before I read his book . I went back and forth to Vietnam in uniform 4 times , I then when back many more times as a civilian and with my short hair at airports left no doubt I was government. I never had more then a peace sign flashed at me . I had discussions at airport bars with the many anti war people and never did they disrespect the uniform and most gave me a hug or a warm handshake when plane was called , I started asked many people I knew and I knew many who knee many and none ever answered that it had happened , most had the same stories I did . This story and the police story remind me of a story about my mother my mother was very big in the civil rights movement and the anti war movement , told by my sister it was mentioned at one meeting that here son had been part of the war for a long time ,,she just looked at that person very stern and said you do know we are protesting the war not the soldier lots of people today could learn a lot from my mother

I relied quite a bit on my own and many people I know who had same experiences , to believe nothing but what fits are own views is to believe in nothing , our lives, the world , are mostly filled with grey those that see only in black and white, will mostly feel unhappy most of time

Not sure what happened there without more information.

It does look like she was in very dire need of sleep and some kind words of encouragement.

you know, that's an excellent reply. last week we replaced our outdoor bulb with a blue one, to show support for all the GOOD cops trying to do their best in today's world. i was surprised 2-3 days later, others had the same idea, & now we see about 6 other blue's in our village. yeah, it's superficial, but i did feel good about it. maybe some cop will see them & know they aren't forgotten.

It's not fake. It really did happen a few months ago. The police officer had been having a horrible day, was already worn and frazzled from the anti-police drama AND the pandemic, combined, and she really was just hoping to get into line, get her food, and get out again.

She ended up with a delay and the wrong food instead, and it was just the last straw. Most people at the time felt badly for her, but they also did NOT blame McDonalds' for purposefully sabotaging her order.

Some people did blame McDonalds, and added it to the conspiracy stories. A few even blamed Soros. I mean it really got ridiculous, if you took a walk down the rabbit hole of the internet.

But for the most part, people just accepted and sympathized with the police officer, without feeling like they had to also be angry at McDonalds or the employees, who clearly screwed up.

I went through drive thru once for drink, that all. Window person said pull up and park. I said no I only want drink and drink machine right beside you. She got the manager and he said what’s the problem? She he won’t pull, I said all I ordered was drink and she standing beside the drink machine? He said give him his drink. I also learned long ago to check my order before I pull off. Most times it right, but some times it’s wrong. Especially the ones that have double drive through windows and one line for pickup.

What is happening is so wrong. First to spread inferences about a serious subject is wrong.

Secondly, I began a thread about social media. Not sure this fits, but on TWITTER, a doctored video which supposedly showed a candidate disparaging police has over 4 million views. Our government has retweeted it twice. It is phoney. There are others with other subject lines....all lies.

Why do people do this, and what purpose does it serve. A serious discussion about policing and crime would serve the country well, but parading phoney lies serves our country very poorly.

A serious discussion on how to stop the lies, and talk straight truth would help, and might shut down the creeps who do it and even watch it.

Isn't there enough stress in this country without fermenting more ?

Police do not need defending....never have. Like all professionals there are good and bad. Defund the police has been totally misrepresented. All this just adds to our division.

I just feel that those who propagate lies do not care about our country

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Please don’t try to make this some kind of battle. The lies being disseminated on social media....example calling a person a pedophile and such. It is degrading to those who do it, and who believe it.

Even implying things with no factual backup is, to me anyway, just irresponsible.

The first was a doctored video, of which I will send you the story because linking here would violate.

On policing, both “sides” and I hate using the word side promote terrible made up things on YouTube, and I find that kind of thing not moving us toward any settlement.

You know, or should know, that there are actual doctored videos being viewed by millions and I find that just plain wrong.

But again, you are looking for some kind of argument. I do not believe the police need any defense. It is a difficult job...my point is why do we promulgate videos to simply stir the pot. Who does that serve ?

The point is a bit vague. Yes, I have had similar experiences several times here, and at various M.D.'s. Partial order, wrong items, etc. that is beside the point. These kinds of things happen, it's part of life. I do think to allow this, or similar incidents, to appear to an individual to be of such enormous importance that they produce not only such a profound emotional effect, but also compel an individual to return home, make a video based on the incident, and then post on social media. You are certainly entitled to interpret this as a normal reaction. You could certainly be correct. Many on here seem to interpret this as a normal reaction to disappointment and a mark of disrespect. I simply wanted to point out that a large corporation like Mc. D's, applies a measure of equality to it's disrespect; retirees, mechanics, teachers, or secretaries, name it, they have all received an order short an item, with a wrong item, and every thing in between. As for me, I am in the "camp" of those who see such an extreme reaction (though certainly understandable) as a need for someone to recognize this officer HAS had too much stress right now and does need someone to understand and step in. So many retired military officers and retired police commanders, chiefs, and sheriffs in The Villages. Just ask any one of them if this is a normal reaction (even if a DELIBERATE slight on the part of Mc D's) for a professional law enforcement officer ? This person does need compassion AND some R & R.

I guess he's referring to these Police Abuse lies...
Could these women be McDonald's employee?

Sent a link to one of the stories via PM. Posting here is a very cleR violation

I won't try to change the subject again with a long post about my life and family, but someone needs to divert where this thread is going

I think DeanFl started this thread because like many of us he is tired of reading things that clearly attack police officers unfairly. I am not sure this incident was just that but I truly understand his views on this subject.

Bucco. Some people agree with you and some don't. It is so nice that the moderator's are giving us some leeway to state our views. Soon this thread will be closed because of the same old, same old.

Not sure if your point.

I KNOW why the thread was started, and you and he and I represent about 98% of Americans....you are not unique. I still do not believe police need defended. It is a tough job.

I only post obvious political in RESPONSE to lies and tripe. This link sent to him would violate the rules, and since I KNOW why he started the thread, I respect it.

Why some feel they are unique in defending police is well beyond me. You are laying the sins of a minority,spurred by outsiders, on everyone, and that is not fair.

I see no need for videos or implications in such serious matters.

And since you imply otherwise, I totally and 100% respect and honor all law enforcement. Always have and always will. Bad decisions by some police as in any other profession, reflect poorly.

The assumption that you and Dean are some kind of minority is a very distorted view and does not in any way reflect reality.

Absolutely true.

No, it's not. The first sentence (that "officers foods are being tampered with on a pretty constant basis") is unsupported internet rumor. The rest is an opinion of what caused the officer to break down in the video, stating several different possible, and even understandable, sources of her stress while also denying PTSD or even that she was "over emotional".

Sad, but here are many phoney, hateful, AND DOCTORED videos on YouTube and Facebook.

Police deserve more respect than fake videos being used to make some kind of case.

They do not need defense, but they certainly deserve truth and not some clowns doctoring and making phoney videos.

Yeah you're right..it's not..



After three off-duty Orlando police officers fell ill after a night out in downtown Sanford last week — two of them later hospitalized — the Sanford Police Department is investigating whether they were intentionally drugged or poisoned.

A doctor who treated one of them at a Seminole County hospital said the officer “might be experiencing the effect of being drugged or poisoned,” according a report by Sanford police released Tuesday.

The report did not identify the three as law enforcement officers or by name, due to Marsy’s Law, the recently enacted victims' rights amendment to Florida’s constitution.

Adam Krudo, the president of the Fraternal Order of Police lodge that represents Orlando officers, confirmed the three were OPD cops. All were off duty and not in uniform when they were out in Sanford, but have since recovered and are out of the hospital, Krudo said.

The officers visited four restaurants or bars in downtown Sanford Sept. 16, where they had dinner then drinks, the report said. At the last bar, one of them started to feel ill, “visibly sweating and vomited,” the report said. They called an ambulance, and that officer was treated with an IV.

When the two other officers later went home, each also fell sick.

One said symptoms began “all at once out of nowhere," including “vomiting, profuse sweating and muscle pain,” the report said. A first responder who treated one of them said the officer went in and out of consciousness and “appeared to be having the symptoms of someone who may be overdosing,” the report said.

Health care staff reportedly told Sanford police investigators that one officer “may have been drugged with a narcotic commonly known as Rohypnol (GHB)," which is commonly known as a “date rape” drug.

One of the officers was later placed on a ventilator at the hospital, the report said.

Sanford police spokeswoman Bianca Gillet said the FBI had assisted with the probe. She said investigators were waiting on toxicology results to confirm whether the officers were poisoned.

Well, I stand corrected. That's 2 confirmed cases or food tampering and a couple possible cases (of which this one still could be regular old food poisoning) since 2017. If that's not "on a pretty constant basis", I don't know what is! :rolleyes:

I read in the newspaper of many cases where officers food has been tampered with and thankfully the guilty person fired. Not sure where you get your “facts” that’s it’s only internet rumor, maybe from the internet?

imo, this deputy needs to be reassign'd from road patrol,,, the 'why' can be addressed @ another time but it sounds as if someone goofed up on her psychological score,,, i'd hate to think she was my nearest backup,,, reminds me of multiple times we've heard of courtroom grandma bailiffs being overpowered by prisoners & having her own weapon used against her & others,,, how did grandma become a bailiff ? equality but God didn't make us all equal - ever wonder why jail personnel are so huge ?

That entire post is a copy paste of some copyrighted article from some publication somewhere. Please cite your source, or ask the author's permission to repost it without citing the source.

While this forum doesn't seem to ever care about copyright law, the terms of service for using vBulletin (which is the platform this forum is on) do care.

Thanks.....used to be on this forum that copy and paste with no link got deleted pretty quickly

Is it Legal to Copy Content from a Website? - FindLaw

It erases all context, which is many times the posters thought when doing it.

"News stories, photos, and other online content often show up in multiple places, and sometimes it's difficult to determine where the content originated. At first glance, it may seem as if it's perfectly legal to copy content from a website. But is it? The short answer to this question is "no," unless you've obtained the author's permission."

Thank you for your service. Reminds me of the Rambo movie First Blood how he was mistreated. Great movie.

Then, link the newspaper. "Many cases" and "the person"??? Even if your newspaper article is fact, it STILL doesn't constitute "on a pretty constant basis" And, yes. Try a google search for "officers foods are being tampered with" & count the actual reported incidents anywhere. No one said it has never happened; it was the implication that it was rampant that smells funny.

I have to laugh that you think I got my facts on officer food tampering from internet rumors ( see your first post to me ) then you tell me to get my facts straight by using Google. Logic isn’t your strong suit.

If you still insist that there are "facts" showing that police officer's food is being tampered with "on a pretty constant basis", please show what you have. Once again, it's the phrase I've highlighted that is not apparently based in reality - NOT whether some incidents have actually occurred.

It's alarming that some equate unfounded rumors (i.e. - those without corroborating evidence) with actual reporting from reliable sources. Most, if not all, of these same reputable reports are also published on internet sites these days. A search engine can help find these reports as well as the myths, rumors & propaganda, but there is still a certain amount of work involved in detecting which have a basis in fact. There may well be a logical error here, but it's not mine, I'm afraid.

That's what you get for $15/hr employees! If you want service faster and more accurate pay them $20/hr.

They were eating donuts years ago. Not healthy but at least they got out of the cruiser and walked in. Now it Micky D’s with a drive thru
2 things, first this happened in the beginning of June, not recently. Second, everyone with 1/2 a brain knows if your order is going to get screwed up it’s at the drive thru