SHHHHH...You will ruin the narrative

THE MEDIA or is it SEEDYia?
 

I so wish all of you could see an album that a Marine Corp Colonel put together about Iraq during that crisis. His only job there was to write about Iraq, before, during, and after the crisis and his dealings with the media covering the same.

Here's on example:
The Colonel showed me a published media photo of "only 29 Iraqi people sign up to be part of the policing efforts in Iraq". It was a photo of 29 people lined up along a fence that led to the sign up location. The media emphasis was clearly on "ONLY 29 PEOPLE". The exact same situation was photographed by the Colonel but he took the photo from the second floor window. His photo did show the 29 people lined up along the fence BUT it also showed 800+ other volunteers around the corner from the fence.

Ticked off, he told the reporter you're lying about the number of volunteers. The reporter told him (the Colonel), "29 people vs 829 people will sell more papers, More drama!!

I’ll trade you for my bridge.

Excellent observation

During the second world war we had reporter or correspondents that were actually supporting our country and our soldiers. How sad what we have now.

To whom are you addressing your comment??

Nah We're just smart enough to check actual data sources for the facts instead of being led around like puppies by activists with a byline.

Read an interesting science article on Apple News today from the WAPO ( was actually non-political). The virus has mutated and is now the predominant strain across the US. What happened is a portion of it's genetic code linked to how it attaches itself to your cells mutated to make it easier and therefore much more infectious.

Several research groups have confirmed this. BUT, this mutation, while causing a significant increase in infection rates, is not causing any increase in severity.

In otherwords, what we are seeing now with the rising positive rates is consistent with this mutation which is predominantly in America. This does not mean we will see a rise in deaths. It MAY mean we will get closer to herd immunity.

This virus mutation has taken over the world. Scientists are trying to understand why.

Exactly. Lots of believers in conspiracy theories on this thread. Too much FOX?

No one knows who or what you're responding to if you don't quote the source.

:agree: Also, any real news (from the hated "MSM") can easily be countered with any one of several contrived conspiracy theories. :ohdear:

We believe what fits our agenda so if you want to discount what you hear then go out and play. All I ask is that you respect others that may not believe what you believe or believe that you are an interpretive expert. That respect would include social distancing and masks.

What a nice thing it is to read thru a long thread like this and see the give and take of ideas between adults with only several small blips of Verbotten Political References. What could be the difference? I think for a moment in time that the new strategy is working.

Not one person that I observed spoke down to another or taught a lesson with relentless changes of font, color, and criticism.

I'm so sick of the news it's revolting. Who do you believe? The one you have always liked? I don't think so. I have limited my time on the news to about and hour a day and feel much better. I'm still informed.

CNN = Communist News Network

I just check actual data sources for actual facts. Like when I see someone link a news report that implies all the Arizona Hospitals are bursting at the seams with covid patients and I look at Arizona Dept of Health stats and see that they are not.

I'm also not denying that there is a surge of new cases. Simply pointing out that the median age of these new cases is 35 and that people of this age group rarely die, are often asymptomatic, and that these types of cases have always been there, they just never got tested before. I predict, with factual reasons, that we will not see a huge spike in deaths from these surges unless the old and at risk drop their guard and start mixing it up too much with the general public.

Remember that Covid 19 death score thread someone posted a while back? I scored a twenty on it. 1 point for being alive, multiplied by 20 for being over 65. I challenged anyone in that thread to post a lower score. No takers. I haven't done any of the things that were listed that add more points, like going to grocery stores, going out to eat inside or outside table, movie theater, meetings of more than 5 etc etc

I am a superstar when it comes to social distancing, haven't been within 20 feet of anyone for 3 months. Don't have a mask, they don't protect you all that much and since I don't enter ANY buildings other than my own home, I don't have any need for a mask. I play golf (alone) swim in my pool, take walks, and talk to my neighbors from a very safe distance.

So no lectures on having respect are needed thank you. :icon_wink:

Don’t you mean they’re network/owner’s agenda?

You speak the truth. Florida Dept. Of Health dashboard, has a map by county.
Touch the county and the numbers come up. I’ve been tracking this fro the beginning. The media does alarm people by not telling us the hospitalizations and death numbers. They are the important numbers. I wrote to channel six, and they were reporting those numbers now. If we write and tell them to do this, they will.
Some People don’t know they have it, some will feel like they have a cold. I’m retired, so I isolate, and wear a mask. Using sanitizer and washing my hands often has kept me safe. We don’t have to panic. Let’s be informed, and do whatever we can to be safe.
MaryAnne Boyle

And just today, Arizona's Public Health agency stated that although the number of positives has gone up, Covid hospitalizations have gone down and 91% of ICU beds are empty.
The MSM loves to hype and misinform because it attracts eyeballs which, in turn, drive ad revenue.. Be a wary consumer and think about the agendas being driven.

It's not just revenue driven. I'd guess 70-80% of the media wants a certain someone to lose in November. They don't report the news, they are activists with a byline.

Here's how that ABC story trying to scare people that all the hospitals a full was written.

The editor tells reporters/research staff "I want a story about a hospital that's bursting at the seams with covid patients. Get some juicy quotes about nurses crying and saying they've never seen anything like it. I don't care if you have to call every hospital in Arizona"

Believe me, they know how to check the Arizona Dept of Health to get actual occupancy numbers just like I did.

I agree, CNN is lousy for actual news.

I find this site very informative since the majority of The Villages
is in Sumter County.
4 deaths in Sumter County since May 1st.
None since May 20th.
Click the upper left to change counties.
Also about 20% of all cases are in Coleman and Sumter Co Correctional.
I think we're doing a heck of a job here.


The Villages, FL Coronavirus Information - Safety Updates, News and Tips - The Weather Channel | Weather.com

Boy did you ever nail it .... the media is indeed the virus. Just another form of political warfare on their part.

"Believe me, they know how to check the Arizona Dept of Health to get actual occupancy numbers just like I did."


I also like to go straight to the source and not depend on any news sources, but according to the ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES site yesterday, 91% of adult ICU beds are in use, not empty.

ADHS - Data Dashboard

Not saying that they are all Covid cases, but I think someone misunderstood what the 91% represented.

The good news is that it looks like they still have a little more than one-half of the state ventilators available.

In our search for where we wanted to retire, we have a number of friends that chose Arizona and we've visited the state many times, but in texting they say they are taking the recommended precautions and so far so good.

As for choosing The Villages over AZ, even the recent TV stuff that made the news hasn't changed our minds (the variety of golf and other activities win out) and we will find our TV home at some point in the near future, but our eyes are a little more open than previously.

Let me see, "the media doesn't want the economy to recover". I use to work in the media and I can tell you that they want the economy to be very robust. Why? Because they make more money! This conspiracy theory is based on the assumption that the Media is somehow a unified entity that acts in unison. The image of Media heads getting together in some smoke filled room and conspire to shape public opinion is ludicrous. The media in today's landscape of digital news and 24hr news cycle is too fragmented. This is not like the turn of the 19th century when newspapers had a lot of power in shaping opinions and political policy. Bottom line is this: the virus is real, there are more cases, it is extremely infectious and if YOU don't take precautions you will become ill and possibly die. The media has nothing to do with it.

Link for the video
 

I've watched the video twice and see nothing political about it. It's a comedic skit on why the author questions why masks are so important now when they weren't in 2018 when 1.5 million people died of TB. This figure can be verified at who.int. 404.

It's an opinion. But just like Google, Twitter, etc, are cutting out controversial opinions, so apparently is Talk of the Villages. What happened to the first amendment?

I remember when homophobic rednecks were allowed to scream obscenities at Matthew Shepard's funeral and the press showed it and said "Freedom of Speech". There are so many examples of offensive protests and opinions shown on TV over the years while MSM media talked about the importance of Freedom of Speech. What's different now? No one can have an opinion questioning the use of masks? We should be free to disagree with the video, not watch it, or agree with it.

This post might be taken down but anyone can google it at DCwhispers.com, mask off.

If this post is removed, it's not because it is political.

What do people do more of during a pandemic while sheltering at home? Take your time this is a toughie.


No Bias you say?

This is CNN

2008: Barrack Obama is in South Dakota today. He got a good glimpse of the majestic Mt Rushmore. It's quite a sight if you haven't seen it. It's a fitting campaign stop for a presidential contender to make history.

2016: Bernie Sanders visiting Mt Rushmore today, this monument to 4 great former Presidents.

2020: President Trump gave a divisive speech today at Mt Rushmore, a monument of two slave owners and on land wrestled away from Native Americans.”

Yep.....oh the hypocracy!!


CNN slights Mount Rushmore as '''monument of two slaveowners''' after extolling its '''majesty''' in 2016 | Fox News

Steve

I think the self-hatred and endless beating of the breast about former slave owners (Washington, Jefferson etc ) is now becoming an eye roll.

I could cite many great historical figures, and one prominent religious leader still admired by many today, who actually owned and traded slaves. But it's likely the post would be zapped so I'll leave it at that.

Here's a perfect example 8-year-old killed, 3 injured in shooting at Alabama mall

No mention at all of the color of the people involved in this tragic killing of an eight year old boy. But they sure didn't miss their chance to remind everyone that this is the same mall that a police officer shot and killed a black man in 2018.

we no longer watch the news....doesn't matter which channel it's all biased news.....so we stopped. We're sleeping better now too

I no longer trust the media to report the truth...doesn't matter which channel you go to...everything has a bias, a spin

oh for the days of Walter Cronkite and Hunley Brinkley...they reported the news and allowed us to form our own opinions

No one thinks it's a "conspiracy" with the smoke filled rooms. The criticism is based on the obvious ... most mainstream media are liberal in outlook, and their bias is not hard to detect. They pick a side, and want their side to win. Just watch the type of questions asked in the periodic press briefings.

They share common cultural views about what is truth, what's noble vs not.

Of course the virus is real. But the panicky coverage is the issue, and the media said essentially zero when protestors were packed shoulder to shoulder. That's probably why things are spiking actrually.

The use of the term "divisive" is both obvious and revealing. If the America we grew up with is defended, that's "divisive."

On the other hand, if you talk positively about toppling statues, spending all day protesting one issue after another, yelling in cops' faces, or ignoring black on black crime, that's apparently unifying.

It's all about the new BLM-based "1619 based culture" defeating and replacing the "culture of 1776" so to speak.

Language is the primary weapon used in the culture war.


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I have to laugh at those who support this "1619 Project" and say it's when the US started. Apparently they were never taught that in 1619, the British were the ones in the eastern part of North America, the Spanish controlled much of the southeast, the French what is now Canada, etc. The US was not even a pipe dream then. Seems to me the beef ought to be with the aformentioned countries. But what do you expect when history is no longer taught in school.

I totally agree. The whole "1619 Project" is not only blindingly ignorant, it's blatant propaganda masquerading as some type of genius insight. If it wasn't so sad, it would be comical.


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Let's pretend what we see inside the overflowing ICUs isn't real. Wear a mask.

The thesis makes perfect sense.
Bland reading does not sell. Sensationalized reading does. The actual definition of sensationalize is:
1. (Especially of a newspaper) present information about (something) in a way that
provokes public interest and excitement, at the expense of accuracy.

That is the actual definition that appeared when I wanted to make sure I had the spelling correct. The def specifically refers to newspapers and why they do it.

Thus.....as we all know....the more the pot is stirred, the more the attention, the more the
attention....the more papers are sold.

OK, look. The ICU's are not overflowing with Covid cases. They are the usual cases that generally end up in the ICU. Heart attacks, strokes, cancer, accidents, etc. Remember, most hospitals could not do so-called elective surgery until recently plus people were scared to go in even if they had issues, so of course the ICU's have filled up.

As to wearing a mask, yes. When in an inside space where you cannot social distance, protect yourself and give courtesy to fellow humans.

When outside or in your car or cart? No need as long as you can social distance.

The media reports facts!
 

The media is not the enemy. Reporting facts is not trying to scare people. This virus is deadly and dangerous. It’s not the media saying that the virus is “totally harmless to 99% of people “ who contract it. That is a very harmful lie that may cost lives if anyone is foolish enough to believe it. The fact is that this virus is a clear and present danger. We also know nothing about the long term consequences of contracting the virus. It may, like viruses that cause hepatitis, be something that has lifelong detrimental consequences to one’s health, even young people who don’t suffer adverse effects now.
This attacking of the messenger, the “media”, is not helpful to anyone.

Sometimes, as you may be aware, posters on here simply repeat what they are told.

Has become archaic to read and check facts.

Dangerous, but....