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Stu from NYC 07-17-2020 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 1804958)
I think you know what the statement "he killed himself" was trying to express. Had mr Floyd been a more law abiding citizen it is unlikely this tragedy would ever have happened. Sadly, a life of crime is what he chose and nobody can say for certain why. Violence begets violence, and so, sooner or later, something bad was most likely going to happen to him. His death, any death, is a tragedy. His death while in custody is even more so.
Surely you must know Mr Floyd was no saint. He made a lot of bad choices in life. Bad choices often lead to bad outcomes. Mr Floyd made the first move that lead to tragedy when he committed a crime. That brought the cops and things went south from there. That is what I think the other post was trying to say.

Stay safe. Stay well. Peace!

Agreed

GoodLife 07-17-2020 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1804409)
I guess I'm confused. All GoFundme sites are voluntary and do not have any taxpayer money going to them. If I don't want to donate to one of them, I don't. I also don't become angry because someone else may choose to give their money to one, since it's their money. There must be something else going on here.

Artificially inspired white guilt. It's a beautiful thing for families of drug addicts.

Bay Kid 07-18-2020 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by banjobob (Post 1804404)
You can bet they are all giving to the scam BLM.

BLM doesn't need the money. They are now filthy rich. Only in the new America.

roscoguy 07-18-2020 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 1804958)
I think you know what the statement "he killed himself" was trying to express. Had mr Floyd been a more law abiding citizen it is unlikely this tragedy would ever have happened. Sadly, a life of crime is what he chose and nobody can say for certain why. Violence begets violence, and so, sooner or later, something bad was most likely going to happen to him. His death, any death, is a tragedy. His death while in custody is even more so.

You're right, I know what was meant and I was being deliberately facetious. Sometimes I just can't help myself. :)
The thing is that it is probably just as true that if a different cop had stopped Floyd, or a different restraint used, he also might be alive today. The neck restraint used - as well as the amount of time it was used - were outside of the Minneapolis PD policy in place at that time. Remember: he was basically passively resisting as far as I've ever seen (as in sliding to the ground) and NOT actively fighting with police prior to the neck restraint being applied & seemed to be fully under control for the entire 8:46 is was used.
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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 1804958)
Surely you must know Mr Floyd was no saint. He made a lot of bad choices in life. Bad choices often lead to bad outcomes. Mr Floyd made the first move that lead to tragedy when he committed a crime. That brought the cops and things went south from there. That is what I think the other post was trying to say.

Stay safe. Stay well. Peace!

He definitely had a criminal history & definitely was a drug user. It was the manner of his death & the sad fact that Chauvin seemed to show blatant disregard while being recorded that set the whole sorry series of events that followed in motion. I have never excused the rioting & looting, BTW. Nor do I feel that Floyd deserved to be a 'martyr', but he sure ended up being a symbol of a cause or movement, whether or not we all believe in it.

Peace to you, too. It's really nice to have a discussion without it turning bitter. Thanks for that!! :thumbup:

Mosells 07-18-2020 09:51 AM

Comply

bpascani 07-18-2020 06:03 PM

And if you watched the funeral (which I did not, but saw clips of it). There is no way his body was in that casket/whatever that was being flipped around during the service, nor would he fit in the casket in the horse drawn buggy...or maybe he was cremated.....that would make sense.. BUT, you are correct...he definitely did not have the resume of what many would consider an upstanding member of society. And it would be nice if all of those folks would have contributrd to a fund of sorts that would help clean up the way of life of depressed neighborhoods, or fund to bring young children out of the situation they are in, if it's a dead end street. These little lives that have been taken lately just breaks my heart.. Wondering if the Floyd family will donate a large portion of that to the common good of children in depressed/dangerous areas....

Byte1 07-19-2020 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1804473)
If he would have been home with his kids instead of drinking the world would be in a better place right now

Actually, the world probably IS "in a better place right now." Although, when he was alive he cost the taxpayer a lot of money, and now that he is dead he is still costing the taxpayer a lot of money.

donassaid 07-19-2020 01:33 PM

accommodation.

donassaid 07-19-2020 01:36 PM

Let's also not forget that during a time of lockdown where no one could visit the sick and elderly or even go to funerals, that they had two funerals in 2 separate states for George Floyd. I'm surprised that they didn't lay his body in state in the Capitol for 3 days. Ridiculous.

Stu from NYC 07-19-2020 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 1806036)
Let's also not forget that during a time of lockdown where no one could visit the sick and elderly or even go to funerals, that they had two funerals in 2 separate states for George Floyd. I'm surprised that they didn't lay his body in state in the Capitol for 3 days. Ridiculous.

Hmm how did they miss that one.

coffeebean 07-24-2020 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Alaska Butch (Post 1804245)
Floyd was on Judge Judy. He carjacked a lady. Check it out. Search You tube. It gives you an ifea of the mentality of todays youth.

I've seen the video. Floyd was a bad guy even as a youth. His father looked so proud of him.......NOT!

coffeebean 07-24-2020 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by roscoguy (Post 1804420)
He knelt on his own neck??? :shocked: I wish they'd show the video of that!! :1rotfl:

Floyd resisted arrest. That is what killed him. I guess he didn't get "the talk" from his parents early on. He was a thug as a kid.

Stu from NYC 07-24-2020 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1808070)
Floyd resisted arrest. That is what killed him. I guess he didn't get "the talk" from his parents early on. He was a thug as a kid.

I do not have any sympathy for him but it does appear police were a little overbearing in his arrest.

Be interesting to see what comes out at their trial

Bay Kid 07-25-2020 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1808072)
I do not have any sympathy for him but it does appear police were a little overbearing in his arrest.

Be interesting to see what comes out at their trial

So true. Wait until we here about their past together.


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