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Bill14564 08-08-2021 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1985948)
Ok just throwing this out for those that are still in panic mode over the vaccination.
IF and I say IF 50% of our country has been vaccinated:
35% of our country are children under 12yo from what I have read (true or not true). Not approved yet, so there is nothing you can do about it.
That leaves 15% not vaccinated that might or could be vaccinated.
How many of those have already been infected by COVID? If already survived COVID then there is no real need to get vaccinated yet.
Also, there are those that were told by their doc not to get vaccinated for medical reasons (like pregnant?)
There are exceptions and limits to the vaccine so some are still going to get infected.
So, get off your high horse and relax. We are doing good in this country.

You have GOT to be making some sick joke! 100,000+ new cases and hospitalizations through the roof and you think that is doing good? What would be doing great, 200,000 cases?

capecoralbill 08-08-2021 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 1984916)
So anyone in a pickup displaying an American flag and a political flag you don't like, MUST be unvaccinated and be a Qanon supporter?...OK got it...

Obviously yes. It is a cult, don't you get it?

fishon 08-08-2021 06:14 PM

The covid cult and the climate cult are the same weak folks.

JMintzer 08-08-2021 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1985897)
You're not paying attention.

Nah, I stopped reading his posts... Not worth my time...

JMintzer 08-08-2021 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1985967)
You have GOT to be making some sick joke! 100,000+ new cases and hospitalizations through the roof and you think that is doing good? What would be doing great, 200,000 cases?

Covid hospitalizations are not "through the roof"...

coffeebean 08-08-2021 06:39 PM

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Bill14564 08-08-2021 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1985987)
Covid hospitalizations are not "through the roof"...

Have any stats on that?

The U.S. is heading back towards the January peak and Florida has more than any other time during the pandemic.

JMintzer 08-08-2021 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1985990)
Have any stats on that?

The U.S. is heading back towards the January peak and Florida has more than any other time during the pandemic.

Most certainly...

COVID-19 Hospitalizations

We are no where NEAR the January peak...

Bill14564 08-08-2021 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1985994)
Most certainly...

COVID-19 Hospitalizations

We are no where NEAR the January peak...

No where near the peak IN THOSE 14 STATES. Which, by the way, do not include Florida.

Try the CDC or WaPo pages which show all states including this one.

JMintzer 08-08-2021 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1985997)
No where near the peak IN THOSE 14 STATES. Which, by the way, do not include Florida.

Try the CDC or WaPo pages which show all states including this one.

State of Florida Data | FAU Business

I trust the WaPo as far as I can throw them... I've lived in the DC area my entire life and I watched as a once great newspaper disintegrated into a partisan tabloid...

And I'm finding numbers (form various news sources) from 5,000-15,000 people hospitalized... The CDC has nothing I can find...

Which is correct? I dunno'

Hoosierb4 08-08-2021 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1986000)
State of Florida Data | FAU Business

I trust the WaPo as far as I can throw them... I've lived in the DC area my entire life and I watched as a once great newspaper disintegrated into a partisan tabloid...

And I'm finding numbers (form various news sources) from 5,000-15,000 people hospitalized... The CDC has nothing I can find...

Which is correct? I dunno'

Check it out here: Florida Coronavirus Map and Case Count - The New York Times

JMintzer 08-08-2021 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoosierb4 (Post 1986011)

It's behind a pay wall... No can do...

But the Times is worse than the WaPo...

Lindsyburnsy 08-08-2021 09:26 PM

What lies? Needing a booster is not suspicious. We get flu shots that don’t always work but we get them anyway to increase our chances of staying healthy. This is no different except this virus is a lot more lethal. In all my 70 years I have never seen such nonsense about flu vaccines. QUOTE=birdawg;1984164]I’m done tired of the lies. No more shots for us[/QUOTE]

MDLNB 08-09-2021 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1985990)
Have any stats on that?

The U.S. is heading back towards the January peak and Florida has more than any other time during the pandemic.


Ah, but how many deaths? Big difference.

Bill14564 08-09-2021 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1986073)
Ah, but how many deaths? Big difference.

Deaths are working out to be about 1.5% of cases with a 3 week lag. Very similar to the surges in the past. If the trend holds there will be over 600 per day by this Friday and over 1,000 per day by next Friday.

JMintzer 08-09-2021 06:45 AM

I just had bloodwork this morning (for a routing Dr's appointment on Wednesday). I asked them to also run a Covid antibody test to see if I still have antibodies from my "bout" with covid 18 months ago...

MDLNB 08-09-2021 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1986078)
Deaths are working out to be about 1.5% of cases with a 3 week lag. Very similar to the surges in the past. If the trend holds there will be over 600 per day by this Friday and over 1,000 per day by next Friday.


Not too many folks consider one week as qualifying as a trend. Get back to us when you can prove that we are at the Jan level and I might be concerned.

Bill14564 08-09-2021 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1986187)
Not too many folks consider one week as qualifying as a trend. Get back to us when you can prove that we are at the Jan level and I might be concerned.

We've already covered this, I don't care if you are concerned. In fact, I'm pretty sure you will continue to deny reality and never be concerned. My interest is in providing balance to the "facts" that you make up.

This is not a one week trend. The correlation between Covid deaths and cases in the US can be seen in graphs available from several sources and has been evident since early 2020. The latest increase in cases began close to July 4 and the latest increase in deaths began three weeks later around July 25.

Cases increased from July 4 to July 18 and deaths increase from July 25 to today. Cases have continued to increase from July 18 to today and, if the trend continues, we have at least three more weeks of increasing daily death numbers.

John41 08-09-2021 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1986187)
Not too many folks consider one week as qualifying as a trend. Get back to us when you can prove that we are at the Jan level and I might be concerned.

We have not returned to peak hospitalization rates in the US according to the most recent CDC statistics.

Jan 09 2021….70 hospitalizations per 100 thousand
Jun 26 2021…..3
Jul 24 2021…….8

There has been a slight increase since the minimum on Jun 26, 2021, but not near the January maximum.

A new variant Delta+ is now spreading and might require the booster vaccination.

Bill14564 08-09-2021 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1986200)
We have not returned to peak hospitalization rates in the US according to the most recent CDC statistics.

Jan 09 2021….70 hospitalizations per 100 thousand
Jun 26 2021…..3
Jul 24 2021…….8

There has been a slight increase since the minimum on Jun 26, 2021, but not near the January maximum.

A new variant Delta+ is now spreading and might require the booster vaccination.

Do you have a link for your most recent CDC statistics?

I do: CDC Covid Tracker and it shows:

hospitalized patients 1/11/21: 123, 865
hospitalized patients 6/26/21: 12,100
hospitalized patients 8/3/21: 45, 237 (more than 1/3 the January peak and climbing)
And that was almost a week ago:
hospitalized patients 8/9/21: ?? (I expect this to be in the 66,000 range)


We're not at the January levels nationally but we're on the path to getting there.
Florida is exceptionally high and has already exceeded its all-time peak from last July.

MDLNB 08-09-2021 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1986212)
Do you have a link for your most recent CDC statistics?

I do: CDC Covid Tracker and it shows:

hospitalized patients 1/11/21: 123, 865
hospitalized patients 6/26/21: 12,100
hospitalized patients 8/3/21: 45, 237 (more than 1/3 the January peak and climbing)
And that was almost a week ago:
hospitalized patients 8/9/21: ?? (I expect this to be in the 66,000 range)


We're not at the January levels nationally but we're on the path to getting there.
Florida is exceptionally high and has already exceeded its all-time peak from last July.


You keep harping on "hospitalizations" but neglect to mention how many deaths. I don't care(well hardly care) if half the country goes to the hospital if they aren't dying. Some folks need to calm down. Panic when you find out that your vaccination is not working, or you grow horns due to the vaccination. I find it interesting that so many that dis' others for not getting the vaccination are so scared of catching the very illness that the shots are supposed to protect you from. Sounds like some do not have any faith in science and just want everyone else to be in the same boat as they are in case of the ship sinking.

jimjamuser 08-09-2021 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fishon (Post 1985982)
The covid cult and the climate cult are the same weak folks.

It is pretty hard to call global warming a "cult" when scientists have been measuring and tracking ocean rise and glacier melting for years and years. There are pictures of glaciers taken at 10-year intervals showing the glacier DISAPPEARING. And CV can HARDLY be a "cult" when the US has 616,000 DEATHS due to CV. We have seen some dying before our eyes on TV - those are NOT actors - don't be ridiculous! I would hate to try to tell the relatives of the CV DEAD that they are just a lying cult. They would punch me and I would deserve it! It is ALL been right in front of our eyes right on TV for a year and 1/2. And ALL the scientists are NOT lying to us. And 98% of all Doctors in the US have been CV vaccinated - are THEY part of some "cult"?

jimjamuser 08-09-2021 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1984030)
This sounds like the same marketing pitch Pfizer made within the last two months.

It will be interesting to see the studies that show not only that the antibodies are falling off but the level of antibodies needed to still be protected. There may be fewer antibodies today than nine months ago but if the level is still far above what is needed for protection against the virus then getting a booster is just putting money into the manufacturer's pocket.

That would be ASSUMING that Moderna is CAPABLE of fooling and conning ALL the scientists working for the government and for Universities - not to mention media investigators. That would be a lot of wool pulled over a lot of eyes!

jimjamuser 08-09-2021 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DALEPQ (Post 1984193)
What/Why is the US FDA taking so long to make a ruling for the first Vax's?
Vax's are classified as "Experimental", yet Millions have been given., (World wide).
I personally know persons that are waiting to get an "Approved" drug b/4 getting Vax'd.
Seems like the US FDA is just another bloated, overpaid, Gov't agency, (IMO)
p.s. We got Vax'd in later Jan, with the "Experimental" drug, no issues so far.
Maybe, will consider a "Booster", if have factual details that it is needed and approved.

I have explained this 2 times before......but the medical forensic experts observe and scrutinize the manufacturing factory lines for the ULTIMATE in quality control for the benefit of the PUBLIC. The process is hard to hurry! They have been working overtime!

JMintzer 08-09-2021 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1986306)
It is pretty hard to call global warming a "cult" when scientists have been measuring and tracking ocean rise and glacier melting for years and years. There are pictures of glaciers taken at 10-year intervals showing the glacier DISAPPEARING. And CV can HARDLY be a "cult" when the US has 616,000 DEATHS due to CV. We have seen some dying before our eyes on TV - those are NOT actors - don't be ridiculous! I would hate to try to tell the relatives of the CV DEAD that they are just a lying cult. They would punch me and I would deserve it! It is ALL been right in front of our eyes right on TV for a year and 1/2. And ALL the scientists are NOT lying to us. And 98% of all Doctors in the US have been CV vaccinated - are THEY part of some "cult"?

You keep repeating that 98% number, when the real number is 97% based on a poll of 301 doctors...

You really wanna' hang your hat on that?

North America was once completely covered by a glacier. What caused it to recede, leaving the most fertile farmland in the world?

Was it "man made global warming"? If not, what did it? Was that global warming a bad thing?

JMintzer 08-09-2021 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1986310)
That would be ASSUMING that Moderna is CAPABLE of fooling and conning ALL the scientists working for the government and for Universities - not to mention media investigators. That would be a lot of wool pulled over a lot of eyes!

I had a routine blood test this morning (for an upcoming Dr's visit). I asked them to add in a covid antibody level test...

I'll report the results when I receive them...

Topspinmo 08-09-2021 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1986306)
It is pretty hard to call global warming a "cult" when scientists have been measuring and tracking ocean rise and glacier melting for years and years. There are pictures of glaciers taken at 10-year intervals showing the glacier DISAPPEARING. And CV can HARDLY be a "cult" when the US has 616,000 DEATHS due to CV. We have seen some dying before our eyes on TV - those are NOT actors - don't be ridiculous! I would hate to try to tell the relatives of the CV DEAD that they are just a lying cult. They would punch me and I would deserve it! It is ALL been right in front of our eyes right on TV for a year and 1/2. And ALL the scientists are NOT lying to us. And 98% of all Doctors in the US have been CV vaccinated - are THEY part of some "cult"?

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So, look at chart, nowhere close to high mean time temperature of pass.

Glad You Asked: Ice Ages – What are they and what causes them? – Utah Geological Survey

Bay Kid 08-10-2021 06:43 AM

Who do you trust, believe?

John41 08-10-2021 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1986581)
Who do you trust, believe?

CDC error causes false spike in Florida Covid cases by combining three days data into one.

drducat 08-10-2021 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1986721)
CDC error causes false spike in Florida Covid cases by combining three days data into one.

Watch please......

mt vernon school board meeting - YouTube

:clap2: :0000000000luvmyhors

MDLNB 08-10-2021 10:12 AM

I have no intention at this point of getting a booster shot. Don't like it then stay away or have some faith in your own vaccination.

Bill14564 08-10-2021 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1986721)
CDC error causes false spike in Florida Covid cases by combining three days data into one.

I suspect Florida reported the data and the CD C didn't spread it out to lessen the impact.

John41 08-10-2021 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by drducat (Post 1986767)
Watch please......

mt vernon school board meeting - YouTube

:clap2: :0000000000luvmyhors

Interesting video. I don’t trust the CDC to be objective and the media has censored alternate opinions being discussed which is the foundation of science. The virus will probably burn itself out in a few years.

eremite06 08-10-2021 12:48 PM

With today's political climate, I don't trust ANY government agency.

coffeebean 08-10-2021 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by drducat (Post 1986767)
Watch please......

mt vernon school board meeting - YouTube

:clap2: :0000000000luvmyhors

This is the video I BEGAN watching until this boob made the comment about the virus small enough to go through all masks. Stopped it right there.

Bill14564 08-10-2021 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1986846)
Interesting video. I don’t trust the CDC to be objective and the media has censored alternate opinions being discussed which is the foundation of science. The virus will probably burn itself out in a few years.

And with only 500 or so people dying every day because they refused to get the shot, what's another 180,000 or so each year? Though honestly, we'll run out of unvaccinated before then - a little thinning of the herd.

John41 08-10-2021 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1986873)
And with only 500 or so people dying every day because they refused to get the shot, what's another 180,000 or so each year? Though honestly, we'll run out of unvaccinated before then - a little thinning of the herd.

78% of those who die from Covid are obese. The fat genes are being removed from the human population per natural selection according to Darwin. Maybe the stupid genes too although I think most of Congress is vaccinated. You can’t fool Mother Nature.

drducat 08-10-2021 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1986861)
This is the video I BEGAN watching until this boob made the comment about the virus small enough to go through all masks. Stopped it right there.

:oops:
Well your mistake not his...:oops:


Your missing out if you don't listen...its your life.

fishon 08-10-2021 03:21 PM

Your comment is probably true.
The frightened likely have many health issues.
They should protect themselves if they can.
I’ll live my life.

drducat 08-10-2021 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by drducat (Post 1986903)
:oops:
Well your mistake not his...:oops:


Your missing out if you don't listen...its your life.

Fauci is pivoting off vaccines onto antivirals which are in development and has no idea if they will work.....Fauci is lost right now.......Vaccines are not going to work.....:ohdear:


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