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M2inOR 09-26-2021 09:00 AM

Approval for Moderna booster is expected “soon”:

CDC issues booster guildelines for Pfizer COVID vaccine, with Moderna and J&J next. What to know - CNET

dpmers 09-26-2021 10:34 AM

Moderna booster shot
 
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2009055)
MSM is reporting that Moderna has not received EAU for booster shots, even for immunocompromised people. People who have received their immunizations from Moderna will just have to wait for their booster shots. They even said that thousands of people have already received Moderna booster shots that should not have received them because Moderna booster shots are not yet authorized. I heard this from Lester Holt (NBC) and from Nora O'Donnell (CBS). I know many of you do not consider these news sources to be reliable so now I'm starting to wonder just how reliable they are. Can't believe I even said that!

I went to the Johns Hopkins website, as recommended by someone on another thread. Johns Hopkins states that they are administering Pfizer and Moderna booster shots to those who have a "qualifying medical condition". This is from the Johns Hopkins website, FAQ..........

"Is Johns Hopkins offering third shots of the Covid-19 vaccines?
Yes. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has authorized an additional COVID-19 vaccine dose for people who received either the Pfizer-BioNTech or the Moderna COVID-19 vaccines and have a qualifying medical condition, as defined by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). A third shot has been authorized only for the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines.

People with a qualifying medical condition who have received either the Pfizer-BioNTech or the Moderna COVID-19 vaccines are eligible to get an additional dose of the same vaccine at select Johns Hopkins Medicine vaccination clinics. Eligible people must schedule a COVID-19 vaccine third dose in advance, as follows:

Schedule online through MyChart. View scheduling instructions.
Schedule by phone at 443-997-1875, Monday through Friday, from 7 a.m. to 5 p.m.

The FDA and CDC continue to evaluate data regarding the need for additional doses for other populations. For now, those who received the Janssen/Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine are not eligible to receive any additional doses of any authorized COVID-19 vaccines. Read more about getting a COVID-19 third dose at Johns Hopkins Medicine."


This is the Johns Hopkins website with this information. I consider Johns Hopkins to be a reliable source......


COVID-19 Vaccination Guidance for Johns Hopkins Medicine Patients | Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Updates

My wife received her Moderna booster shot from Mayo, she is immunocompromised, I got mine from the VA after receiving a call from them to schedule an appointment. I also have immune system issues

Escape Artist 09-26-2021 10:57 AM

All of this speculation about the Modern vaccine as well as testimony by many they've already received the booster goes to show this isn't a very organized or "official" undertaking. No one seems to know what's going on, doctor's are instructing patients to get boosters, pharmacies are giving boosters to the public even though they don't have authorization yet from the CDC/FDA because they don't want to throw away vaccines, etc. It's very disturbing. The CDC just overrode the FDA's recommendation for the Pfizer booster for only 65 and over and immune-compromised but that just happened a couple of days ago, yet I'm reading people have been getting boosters for weeks now.

JMintzer 09-26-2021 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Luggage (Post 2009225)
The answer is a wink and a nod to the pharmacist. No one is telling you you need to bring in a doctor's note and I know many people that have gotten the booster shot already from moderna

They either lied to the pharmacist, or the pharmacist is not following the guidelines...

SCIENCE!

JMintzer 09-26-2021 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2009327)
Moderna and J&J are still authorized by CDC for "emergency" use.......which all of us who have the first two doses received.....with no FDA full approval.
See first paragraph in link below:

Get Vaccine Answers | How we know COVID-19 vaccines… | The Ad Council

The so called procedural approval process moves very slowly and inefficiently and influenced by special interest and other controlling groups.

The Moderna third dose is no less "approved" than the first two shots.....all doses are the same formulation and dosage!

The approval status is a well worn, misunderstood red herring!!!!

Moderna itself hasn't said you need a booster, unless you're immunocompromised...

coffeebean 09-26-2021 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Joanne19335 (Post 2009237)
I got my Moderna booster two weeks ago at Publix and I am not immunocompromised. They were also offering the Pfizer booster. You can make an appointment online.

Actually, I had an appointment with my PCP for this past week which I cancelled. When I saw the news report (that I spoke of in my OP) on the NBC nightly news with Lester then saw the same report by Nora on CBS, I decided to cancel my appointment. I'll wait for the Moderna vaccine booster to have EUA for the general population. I'll be happy to wait my turn and get my booster when the general population is given the OK to do so.

jimjamuser 09-26-2021 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2009055)
MSM is reporting that Moderna has not received EAU for booster shots, even for immunocompromised people. People who have received their immunizations from Moderna will just have to wait for their booster shots. They even said that thousands of people have already received Moderna booster shots that should not have received them because Moderna booster shots are not yet authorized. I heard this from Lester Holt (NBC) and from Nora O'Donnell (CBS). I know many of you do not consider these news sources to be reliable so now I'm starting to wonder just how reliable they are. Can't believe I even said that!

I went to the Johns Hopkins website, as recommended by someone on another thread. Johns Hopkins states that they are administering Pfizer and Moderna booster shots to those who have a "qualifying medical condition". This is from the Johns Hopkins website, FAQ..........

"Is Johns Hopkins offering third shots of the Covid-19 vaccines?
Yes. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has authorized an additional COVID-19 vaccine dose for people who received either the Pfizer-BioNTech or the Moderna COVID-19 vaccines and have a qualifying medical condition, as defined by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). A third shot has been authorized only for the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines.

People with a qualifying medical condition who have received either the Pfizer-BioNTech or the Moderna COVID-19 vaccines are eligible to get an additional dose of the same vaccine at select Johns Hopkins Medicine vaccination clinics. Eligible people must schedule a COVID-19 vaccine third dose in advance, as follows:

Schedule online through MyChart. View scheduling instructions.
Schedule by phone at 443-997-1875, Monday through Friday, from 7 a.m. to 5 p.m.

The FDA and CDC continue to evaluate data regarding the need for additional doses for other populations. For now, those who received the Janssen/Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine are not eligible to receive any additional doses of any authorized COVID-19 vaccines. Read more about getting a COVID-19 third dose at Johns Hopkins Medicine."


This is the Johns Hopkins website with this information. I consider Johns Hopkins to be a reliable source......


COVID-19 Vaccination Guidance for Johns Hopkins Medicine Patients | Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Updates

The NY Times morning report said that the FDA is still REVIEWING the Moderna booster. J and J has not yet sent in an application to the FDA. And yes, many people on this forum have said that they have received some Pfizer and Moderna 3rd shote........some talked THEIR Doctor into giving it to them........and some just went into a drug chain and got them by lying - cheap shot ( pun intended) con artists!

coffeebean 09-26-2021 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by daca55 (Post 2009256)
Saw this article in the NY Times concerning The Moderna Vaccine. Maybe we don’t need a 3rd booster shot of Moderna.




Moderna vs. Pfizer: Both Knockouts, but One Seems to Have the Edge - NewsBreak

I'm not able to read the entire article (pay wall?). What does it say?

coffeebean 09-26-2021 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by M2inOR (Post 2009378)

Thank you for posting this article dated September 25, 2021. The following is an excerpt and is exactly what I heard reported on NBC's Lester Holt and CBS's Nora O'Donnell......

The CDC decision applies just to those vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine and not for those who received the Moderna or Johnson & Johnson vaccines. A booster recommendation for those two vaccines is expected in the coming weeks, US Surgeon General Vivek Murthy said on Friday.


Let me go one step further. All these providers (physicians and pharmacies) who are administering the third shots of Moderna (AKA boosters by some) are just not listening to or following the guidance of the CDC. Am I understanding that correctly???

Phinbob 09-26-2021 11:59 AM

Both my wife and I had 3rd shot of Moderna at Publix. We signed up and made an appointment. We are both in our 70’s. We did not lie, as some seem to think is necessary in order to get the shot.

coffeebean 09-26-2021 12:02 PM

Oops. Duplicate post.

jimjamuser 09-26-2021 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2009498)
Thank you for posting this article dated September 25, 2021. The following is an excerpt and is exactly what I heard reported on NBC's Lester Holt and CBS's Nora O'Donnell......

The CDC decision applies just to those vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine and not for those who received the Moderna or Johnson & Johnson vaccines. A booster recommendation for those two vaccines is expected in the coming weeks, US Surgeon General Vivek Murthy said on Friday.


Let me go one step further. All these providers (physicians and pharmacies) who are administering the third shots of Moderna (AKA boosters by some) are just not listening to or following the guidance of the CDC. Am I understanding that correctly???

Yes, you are!

virtualcynthia 09-26-2021 12:56 PM

I got my booster yesterday. I decided to go to my dr. Because I always feel that as a medical professional they are up to date. We’ll, I received Pfizer #2 in Feb. Understanding that Pfizer is the only one authorized, I schedule an appointment. Go in, give them my card, get the shot and pick up my card. Then I see that I received MODERNA. I told the aide my two shot vaccination was Pfizer. She tells me not to worry, they’re the same, they’re only giving Moderna. now I’m hoping I don’t pee green or glow in the dark.

Villageswimmer 09-26-2021 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by John Mayes (Post 2009070)
Do you have a “qualifying medical condition”? Moderna has not received approval yet for a third shot for most people.

J&J, Moderna and Pfizer: What We Know About Booster Shots So Far – NBC Chicago

Tell Publix.

Escape Artist 09-26-2021 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by virtualcynthia (Post 2009522)
I got my booster yesterday. I decided to go to my dr. Because I always feel that as a medical professional they are up to date. We’ll, I received Pfizer #2 in Feb. Understanding that Pfizer is the only one authorized, I schedule an appointment. Go in, give them my card, get the shot and pick up my card. Then I see that I received MODERNA. I told the aide my two shot vaccination was Pfizer. She tells me not to worry, they’re the same, they’re only giving Moderna. ������ now I’m hoping I don’t pee green or glow in the dark.

Wow, this is a total sh*tshow! Why would the pharmacies/doctors be so eager to give boosters? Are they remunerated/getting kickbacks in some way for using up all their vaccines?

Welp, I guess you can't say Florida is anti-vaccine. Everyone seems to be all about it this time around.

MDLNB 09-26-2021 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Joanne19335 (Post 2009237)
I got my Moderna booster two weeks ago at Publix and I am not immunocompromised. They were also offering the Pfizer booster. You can make an appointment online.

Just to be one the safe side, why not go ahead and get the Pfizer booster also?:clap2:

Just kidding. Had to add that caveat since some will ultimately take the statement seriously.

M2inOR 09-26-2021 02:06 PM

Re: mixing vaccines

Several countries, including Canada and Israel are mixing vaccines.

There is no single, authoritative agency worldwide with the answer.

Some studies even state that the Moderna is more effective than Pfizer.

coffeebean 09-26-2021 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by virtualcynthia (Post 2009522)
I got my booster yesterday. I decided to go to my dr. Because I always feel that as a medical professional they are up to date. We’ll, I received Pfizer #2 in Feb. Understanding that Pfizer is the only one authorized, I schedule an appointment. Go in, give them my card, get the shot and pick up my card. Then I see that I received MODERNA. I told the aide my two shot vaccination was Pfizer. She tells me not to worry, they’re the same, they’re only giving Moderna. ������ now I’m hoping I don’t pee green or glow in the dark.

Sorry to hear this. No, they are not the same. They are both mRNA vaccines but seems Moderna is coming out ahead of Pfizer with real life efficiency of the vaccine.

Your mishap is the reason why I verified with the person giving me my second shot that the vaccine was Moderna , BEFORE my injection was administered to me. I will verify again when I get my third shot and make sure it is Moderna before the injection is given to me.

M2inOR 09-26-2021 02:13 PM

More info about mixing vaccines
 
Can You Mix COVID-19 Vaccines? Here's What the Experts Say | Shape

Garywt 09-26-2021 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 2009296)
Hoping this thing will go away so we don't need a booster shot.

Not going anywhere, too many people refuse to participate.

Koapaka 09-26-2021 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by YankeesFan (Post 2009143)
Just because it’s FDA approved doesn’t mean it’s good for your body. A lot of things that are good for your body are not FDA approved.

And a lot of things NOT good for your body are not FDA approved for that very reason.....

Koapaka 09-26-2021 02:49 PM

Incorrect statement. NOT going anywhere because it has crossed the boundaries of human/animal transmission. Since so many animals have proven to be COVID positive, you will NEVER be able to vaccinate humans into immunity. The ONLY way vaccination would work is IF it were only human transmitted disease, which it is NOT. USDA APHIS | SARS-CoV-2 in Animals in the United States

JMintzer 09-26-2021 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2009498)
Thank you for posting this article dated September 25, 2021. The following is an excerpt and is exactly what I heard reported on NBC's Lester Holt and CBS's Nora O'Donnell......

The CDC decision applies just to those vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine and not for those who received the Moderna or Johnson & Johnson vaccines. A booster recommendation for those two vaccines is expected in the coming weeks, US Surgeon General Vivek Murthy said on Friday.


Let me go one step further. All these providers (physicians and pharmacies) who are administering the third shots of Moderna (AKA boosters by some) are just not listening to or following the guidance of the CDC. Am I understanding that correctly???

I've been saying that over, and over, and over again....

JMintzer 09-26-2021 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by virtualcynthia (Post 2009522)
I got my booster yesterday. I decided to go to my dr. Because I always feel that as a medical professional they are up to date. We’ll, I received Pfizer #2 in Feb. Understanding that Pfizer is the only one authorized, I schedule an appointment. Go in, give them my card, get the shot and pick up my card. Then I see that I received MODERNA. I told the aide my two shot vaccination was Pfizer. She tells me not to worry, they’re the same, they’re only giving Moderna. ������ now I’m hoping I don’t pee green or glow in the dark.

Well, 1... They're not the same...

And 2... No, it shouldn't hurt you at all...

But once again, SCIENCE!

JMintzer 09-26-2021 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Escape Artist (Post 2009528)
Wow, this is a total sh*tshow! Why would the pharmacies/doctors be so eager to give boosters? Are they remunerated/getting kickbacks in some way for using up all their vaccines?

Welp, I guess you can't say Florida is anti-vaccine. Everyone seems to be all about it this time around.

And people can't understand why there are people who don't trust what the Government is telling them...

coffeebean 09-26-2021 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2009602)
And people can't understand why there are people who don't trust what the Government is telling them...

My 2 cents...... the government jumped the gun and misspoke. Wishful thinking made them do it.

talleyjm 09-26-2021 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2009134)
This is why you should always go to the source of information, when you want to know the information.

If you want an analysis of the information, or opinions about the information, or an investigative report about the source of the information, you go to the media.

If the media says something and you want to know if there's truth to it, go to the source. Always. Don't say "oh well CNN says X therefore it's fake news" or "Fox stated that and that makes it fake news."

This doesn't apply to breitbart, newsmax, the onion, or oann, because all four are, by definition, fake news.

Whose definition?

JMintzer 09-26-2021 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by talleyjm (Post 2009625)
Whose definition?

If you have to ask... :icon_wink:

jagdl 09-26-2021 09:50 PM

There is a difference in Third Dose and Booster Dose
 
Third doses of both shots were approved for people who were immunocompromised. These were specified not as boosters but as necessary in the series of first dose for people who were not building the full antibodies due to medical conditions (HIV, Cancer treatments, RA treatments, etc.) All of these treatments shut down your natural immunities in order to all the drugs to come in and kill these diseases.

Now comes the booster shot. Pfizer applied for and got approval for booster shots for people whose antibodies start waning. The CDC only recommended the BOOSTER shot for people 65 and older. Yes, it is exactly the same shot that those receiving a 3rd shot are getting but there is a distinction about why people are receiving it.

Moderna has not yet applied for approval for the booster dose. 3rd shot doses are approved.

If anyone is getting the 3rd shot of Moderna right now it is because they are attesting that they are immunocompromised individuals and meet the criteria.

matandch 09-27-2021 04:52 AM

You don’t have to lie. Most doctors and Publix will give you a Moderna 3rd shot if you’re 65+ and at least 6 months past your 2nd shot. These seem to be the minimum qualifications for the 3rd Moderna shot. You don’t have to “talk” anyone into anything. I resent your calling those of us you met those qualifications and got the shot liars and con artists!

coffeebean 09-27-2021 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matandch (Post 2009666)
You don’t have to lie. Most doctors and Publix will give you a Moderna 3rd shot if you’re 65+ and at least 6 months past your 2nd shot. These seem to be the minimum qualifications for the 3rd Moderna shot. You don’t have to “talk” anyone into anything. I resent your calling those of us you met those qualifications and got the shot liars and con artists!

IMHO, I wouldn't call it "lying" but confusion on the provider's parts and also the general public regarding the Moderna third vaccine shot for the general public over the age of 65 and NOT immunocompromised. This is getting complicated. People need simplicity and this has become anything but simple.

5632@embarqmail.com 09-27-2021 05:39 AM

Got mine a week ago at CVS in target applied on CVS website

MarcStephen 09-27-2021 06:28 AM

Since the beginning of COVID, I sought out advice from my physician and people in the field of medicine rather than follow CDC! It would be best to contact your doctor than listen to Fauci because he’s a political junkie IMHO! Just my two cents! As of this writing, this is what I found at Moderna website which another go to for me over MSM and NIH and CDC! Moderna Announces Positive Initial Booster Data Against SARS-CoV-2 Variants of Concern | Moderna, Inc.

JMintzer 09-27-2021 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matandch (Post 2009666)
You don’t have to lie. Most doctors and Publix will give you a Moderna 3rd shot if you’re 65+ and at least 6 months past your 2nd shot. These seem to be the minimum qualifications for the 3rd Moderna shot. You don’t have to “talk” anyone into anything. I resent your calling those of us you met those qualifications and got the shot liars and con artists!

Well either the pharmacists are not following protocol, or people are lying about their immunosuppressed status... Pick one...

GeriS 09-27-2021 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2009134)
This is why you should always go to the source of information, when you want to know the information.

If you want an analysis of the information, or opinions about the information, or an investigative report about the source of the information, you go to the media.

If the media says something and you want to know if there's truth to it, go to the source. Always. Don't say "oh well CNN says X therefore it's fake news" or "Fox stated that and that makes it fake news."

This doesn't apply to breitbart, newsmax, the onion, or oann, because all four are, by definition, fake news.

They are all fake news.

M2inOR 09-27-2021 06:37 AM

Quote:

This is getting complicated. People need simplicity and this has become anything but simple.
Back in August we had several in the administration declaring that boosters would be available starting in September. Since then there have been discussions, pro and con. Some focused on fairness - should those vaccines go to other countries? To unvaccinated? Others were worried whether EAU was issued. Still more are still concerned about the trials underway.

We did not get, we did not lie. We simply asked about the flu vaccine and getting a booster. We were not pushed or tricked into getting either. It was explained to us that both were available if we wanted them. Only caution was to not take them together, and suggestion was to get COVID vaccine first, and then wait at least 2 weeks before getting a flu shot.

As mentioned previously, we got the 1st and 2nd back in early Jan and Feb 2021. Me no reaction to either. Wife slightly tired and a sore arm for a day or 2 after the 2nd.

For the 3rd, no reaction for me, slightly tired for my wife.

I am happy this 3rd shot was available. It wasn't forced on us. We made a personal choice.

For those concerned, or confused, no one is forcing anyone to get that booster.

For those that got a booster, or 3rd shot willingly, that may be better than the pharmacies and clinics having to worry about vaccines about to expire.

I'm happy that Villages Health planned ahead, and ordered vaccines in preparation for a Sept 20th rollout. I'm glad the CDC sliced thru the rhetoric, and made a recommendation back in August 2021.

Joint Statement from HHS Public Health and Medical Experts on COVID-19 Booster Shots | CDC Online Newsroom | CDC

JMintzer 09-27-2021 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2009670)
IMHO, I wouldn't call it "lying" but confusion on the provider's parts and also the general public regarding the Moderna third vaccine shot for the general public over the age of 65 and NOT immunocompromised. This is getting complicated. People need simplicity and this has become anything but simple.

Or, the pharmacists are coaching people to lie...

My golfing buddy went to his local CVS (here in MD) and was told "We're only supposed to give this to immunosuppressed people. All you have to do is attest you're immunosuppressed and you're good to go!"

GeriS 09-27-2021 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Escape Artist (Post 2009528)
Wow, this is a total sh*tshow! Why would the pharmacies/doctors be so eager to give boosters? Are they remunerated/getting kickbacks in some way for using up all their vaccines?

Welp, I guess you can't say Florida is anti-vaccine. Everyone seems to be all about it this time around.

Follow the money. Who is getting rich, or should I say richer from this?

GeriS 09-27-2021 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M2inOR (Post 2009697)
Back in August we had several in the administration declaring that boosters would be available starting in September. Since then there have been discussions, pro and con. Some focused on fairness - should those vaccines go to other countries? To unvaccinated? Others were worried whether EAU was issued. Still more are still concerned about the trials underway.

We did not get, we did not lie. We simply asked about the flu vaccine and getting a booster. We were not pushed or tricked into getting either. It was explained to us that both were available if we wanted them. Only caution was to not take them together, and suggestion was to get COVID vaccine first, and then wait at least 2 weeks before getting a flu shot.

As mentioned previously, we got the 1st and 2nd back in early Jan and Feb 2021. Me no reaction to either. Wife slightly tired and a sore arm for a day or 2 after the 2nd.

For the 3rd, no reaction for me, slightly tired for my wife.

I am happy this 3rd shot was available. It wasn't forced on us. We made a personal choice.

For those concerned, or confused, no one is forcing anyone to get that booster.

For those that got a booster, or 3rd shot willingly, that may be better than the pharmacies and clinics having to worry about vaccines about to expire.

I'm happy that Villages Health planned ahead, and ordered vaccines in preparation for a Sept 20th rollout. I'm glad the CDC sliced thru the rhetoric, and made a recommendation back in August 2021.

Joint Statement from HHS Public Health and Medical Experts on COVID-19 Booster Shots | CDC Online Newsroom | CDC

Then there will be the 4th, 5th and so on.

Linnberg 09-27-2021 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonnevie (Post 2009333)
yes, but when I asked about Moderna he said only immunocompromised are eligible

Publix in almost all locations will give moderna 3rd vaccine shot/booster with or without online appointment except weekends do require apppomgments.
You fill out form and get it and barely wait. They will update your card.
We got ours at Southern Trace. We have a friend who
Originally had Pfizer and she got Moderna booster at Publix as well.
They also have booster combined with flu shot
But recommended I wait a couple weeks between shots instead.
Not discussing CDC/FDA, personal or political issues; just discussing facts of getting 3rd dose in The Villages.


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