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transplanted 10-28-2020 02:09 PM

sounds like a super-spreader event to me! Love that they came with dollies and the police were told to stand down. What's next?

transplanted 10-28-2020 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kenoc7 (Post 1853497)
From what I saw on the video, it wasn't a self-defence shooting. Wallace had a very small knife - why use deadly force? Taser him or lassoo him, or shoot him non-lethally. There was no need for deadly force.

Give that a try when such a person comes for you and we'll see how it works out. Respectfully submitted as the sister of a police officer in the DC metro area.

transplanted 10-28-2020 02:17 PM

And what about reparations for the descendants of the white/other (basically - non-slave peoples) whose lives and fortunes were stolen/ burned up, etc., by the government during the civil war? My family was VERY wealthy until then... and yet I grew up in an 8x40 trailer with my family.

transplanted 10-28-2020 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by loribellitt (Post 1853278)
But could you at least just aim for a leg? Maybe you're not a sure shot but these police officers are supposed to be trained professionals.

And then he hits a femoral artery and the perpetrator bleeds out and the cop is still wrong - right?

SUENRAN 10-28-2020 03:00 PM

Great Idea
 
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Originally Posted by 72lions (Post 1853266)
Of course this is not accurate. The bi-polar nan had a kitchen knife for God sake. Another unnecessary killing.

Such an sad statement to make. A kitchen knife with can be driven into a person. Maybe the person should have put the knife down!

Art cov 10-28-2020 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1853577)
Right and wrong is instilled by your family and those who care about you and nurture you, not from God.

God can be your father or the devil can be. Some don’t believe in either but that doesn’t mean it isn’t so. You will do the works of your father

Number 10 GI 10-28-2020 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1853552)
Very informative post. What is your opinion about tranquilizer darts in that situation? Can robotic Police be perfected in the future to take care of many (not all) of these situations in your opinion?

I like the idea of a tranquilizer dart, officers should be equipped with tasers also. I'm all for any alternative to a firearm in the appropriate situation. Notice the word "appropriate'. Too many people think that police officers are robots in that they can kill without remorse and suffer no psychological problems afterwards. That is pure BS, a little research will show that officers and civilians that have had to kill someone develop severe cases of PTSD from the trauma of the incident. Soldiers are not "trained to kill remorselessly" and they suffer emotional effects from the killing in warfare. Only sociopathic individual kills without remorse and the vast majority of police and soldiers are not in that category. No one gets up in the morning and says "I'm going to kill someone today".
From what I've heard on this incident the police officers were not equipped with tasers or any other non-lethal equipment. Lets put the blame where it belongs, the mayor and city council. These are the people who have oversight on police departments and who control the budget and who should be insisting on equipping the police adequately for all situations. Do you see a cabinet maker using a chainsaw or a surgeon using a hacksaw? When the city only equips the police with lethal weapons why do they not think there be avoidable deaths.
Robotic cops are a long way down the road and in the realm of science fiction at this time.

jimjamuser 10-28-2020 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1853633)
I like the idea of a tranquilizer dart, officers should be equipped with tasers also. I'm all for any alternative to a firearm in the appropriate situation. Notice the word "appropriate'. Too many people think that police officers are robots in that they can kill without remorse and suffer no psychological problems afterwards. That is pure BS, a little research will show that officers and civilians that have had to kill someone develop severe cases of PTSD from the trauma of the incident. Soldiers are not "trained to kill remorselessly" and they suffer emotional effects from the killing in warfare. Only sociopathic individual kills without remorse and the vast majority of police and soldiers are not in that category. No one gets up in the morning and says "I'm going to kill someone today".
From what I've heard on this incident the police officers were not equipped with tasers or any other non-lethal equipment. Lets put the blame where it belongs, the mayor and city council. These are the people who have oversight on police departments and who control the budget and who should be insisting on equipping the police adequately for all situations. Do you see a cabinet maker using a chainsaw or a surgeon using a hacksaw? When the city only equips the police with lethal weapons why do they not think there be avoidable deaths.
Robotic cops are a long way down the road and in the realm of science fiction at this time.

Thanks, that was a very informative post!

Justus 10-28-2020 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 2ndtime (Post 1853502)
Perhaps some like-minded citizens could form a volunteer group in each metropolitan area. When a "disturbed" person, or one high on street drugs is wielding a knife, threatening others, an unarmed member of the volunteer group could be immediately summoned to the scene to replace the police officers on duty. This volunteer could certainly "reason" with him, convincing him to surrender his weapon, therefore eliminating the potential for unjustified police violence. Any takers?

LOL! This was clearly intended as sarcasm...was I too subtle?

Neils 10-28-2020 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 72lions (Post 1853266)
Of course this is not accurate. The bi-polar nan had a kitchen knife for God sake. Another unnecessary killing.

Have u ever been stabbed with any type of knife for doing your job?

davem4616 10-29-2020 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by loribellitt (Post 1853278)
But could you at least just aim for a leg? Maybe you're not a sure shot but these police officers are supposed to be trained professionals.


they could still bleed out if shot in the leg....maybe police training should include a trip to Hollywood to be trained to shoot the weapon out of their attacker's hand like the sheriffs in the old wild west movies do

:1rotfl:

PugMom 10-29-2020 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1853395)
Just wondering do we have a Militia Organization in The Villages, would we need one?

it's easier to ask 'who isn't carrying.' darn near everyone is already armed & self-protected, no fear here :coolsmiley:

Mrprez 10-29-2020 05:44 AM

I have been stabbed with a knife. Fortunately, the guy with the knife didn’t know what he was doing as I am still alive. It could have just as easily gone the other direction.

Lindsyburnsy 10-29-2020 06:16 AM

Proud Boys and white supremacists are going to these protests and taking advantage of these situations. Check the news for who is actually being charged with the crimes of which you speak.
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Originally Posted by Fredman (Post 1853200)
Don’t know which is worse Anttfi or BLM both espouse violence, looting and discord. They are well organized and well funded and armed. No law enforcement officer is safe until these organizations are brought under control


coffeebean 10-29-2020 06:18 AM

Current news: Three people in France killed in a knife attack by a terrorist.


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