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JMintzer 09-13-2021 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by fcgiii (Post 2002664)
It find it disturbing that there are only two classes of people: the Vaccinated and the Unvaccinated. Nobody ever includes those that have natural immunity. Maybe instead of a vaccine passport we should have an antibody test and carry around the results. Tests are available at LabCorp in Brownwood for $10.

It seems that they are purposely ignoring those who had and recovered from Covid...

I can't figure out why that is... But I have my suspicions...

JMintzer 09-13-2021 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2002842)
As stated by a health care Professor at Brown University - 99% of CV hospitalizations are the UNvaccinated.

NO ONE else is using that ridiculously high number...

SkBlogW 09-13-2021 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2003277)

Scene at Publix

Mask wearing vaccinated person to un masked, un vaccinated covid survivor

How dare you!! Get your mask on! Where is your vaccine passport! You are going to kill all the children and allow the phi kappa delta variant to infect us all!

Survivor: Why do you wear a mask if vaccinated?

Vaxxer: Because science tells us that vaccinated people can still be infected and spread their cooties. This is why vaccine passports are neccessary.

Survivor: WTF????

JMintzer 09-13-2021 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SkBlogW (Post 2003302)
Scene at Publix

Mask wearing vaccinated person to un masked, un vaccinated covid survivor

How dare you!! Get your mask on! Where is your vaccine passport! You are going to kill all the children and allow the phi kappa delta variant to infect us all!

Survivor: Why do you wear a mask if vaccinated?

Vaxxer: Because science tells us that vaccinated people can still be infected and spread their cooties. This is why vaccine passports are neccessary.

Survivor: WTF????

Except I'd never do that @ Publix...

If a business asks me to wear a mask, and I choose to be a patron of said business, I'll put on a mask...

The juice just ain't worth the squeeze...

Now, if someone harasses me on the street about not wearing a mask, we'll have a serious problem...

drducat 09-13-2021 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jswirs (Post 2003138)
And here we have another individual who is able to think for himself. Unfortunately, there are not that many of us. GREAT POST!.

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Originally Posted by Malsua (Post 2003179)
Two things jump out at me from that video.

1. The entire vaccine effort and scare mongering were based on ONE case and fatality. There were "media reports" of other cases. No verification, no anything, just a mass vaccination based on ONE CASE FATALITY.

2. You could sue the federal government if harmed. There were no blanket waivers of liability on that one. Boy did "they" learn their lesson.


I guess there is one lesson here. Unless you hear it from a celebrity's mouth, don't believe it.

Another lesson, if you are mandated to get a shot, insist on Comirnaty. Generic Pfiser BNT162b2 is only approved under EUA and you assume all liability when taking it.

I got the Moderna shot, it's been seemingly more effective, lets hope that trend continues. Two potential reasons for this are the time between shots and the amount of active MRNA. Based on the UK experience, stretching out the window between shots may improve efficacy, so maybe skip a week or two between if you're getting a Comirnaty.

Comirnaty is non existent.....try to find some.....not being made yet...maybe in a couple of years...good luck.

Velvet 09-13-2021 09:02 AM

With the highly contagious delta variant, which can reinfect those who had Covid before, the vaccine mostly protects the person vaccinated. In one week over one million new cases in the US.

And children:

‘Change in Child COVID-19 Cases*

251,781 child COVID-19 cases were reported the past week from 8/26/21-9/2/21 (4,797,683 to 5,049,465) and children represented 26.8% (251,781/939,470) of the weekly reported cases
Over two weeks, 8/19/21-9/2/21, there was a 10% increase in the cumulated number of child COVID-19 cases since the beginning of the pandemic (455,744 cases added (4,593,721 to 5,049,465))’

So more than 1 out of 4 cases were in children. They are now filling the pediatric hospitals as well. Very scary time to be a parent.

They might have vaccine available for children by Halloween. (FOX TV).

drducat 09-13-2021 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2003279)
It seems that they are purposely ignoring those who had and recovered from Covid...

I can't figure out why that is... But I have my suspicions...

Same here....your good to go for most likely 20 years or so.

drducat 09-13-2021 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2003317)
With the highly contagious delta variant, which can reinfect those who had Covid before, the vaccine mostly protects the person vaccinated. In one week over one million new cases in the US.

And children:

‘Change in Child COVID-19 Cases*

251,781 child COVID-19 cases were reported the past week from 8/26/21-9/2/21 (4,797,683 to 5,049,465) and children represented 26.8% (251,781/939,470) of the weekly reported cases
Over two weeks, 8/19/21-9/2/21, there was a 10% increase in the cumulated number of child COVID-19 cases since the beginning of the pandemic (455,744 cases added (4,593,721 to 5,049,465))’

So more than 1 out of 4 cases were in children. They are now filling the pediatric hospitals as well. Very scary time to be a parent.

They might have vaccine available for children by Halloween. (FOX TV).

Maybe or maybe not...good read though....these jabs are risky...

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko Discusses How Covid-19 Shots Might Reduce Lifespan

Byte1 09-13-2021 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2003313)
Except I'd never do that @ Publix...

If a business asks me to wear a mask, and I choose to be a patron of said business, I'll put on a mask...

The juice just ain't worth the squeeze...

Now, if someone harasses me on the street about not wearing a mask, we'll have a serious problem...

The sign at Walmart suggests that, or asks that we wear a mask but does not mandate it. They also offer a paper mask at the door. Sorry, but like many others I do not wear the mask since they are not demanding compliance. Either the vaccine works or it does not. If that bothers folks, they should stay their distance and act as if I am not vaccinated. If they are vaccinated and wearing a mask, good for them. I hope they live a long and useless life. Because if you are going to live life in constant fear, why bother?
This is my choice and I do not attempt to encourage anyone to do what they feel is unsafe. That is my disclaimer. :ho:

Velvet 09-13-2021 09:21 AM

Well, Byte1, it is the unvaccinated by far, who catch Covid although that will likely change as the vaccine without a booster will be less and less protective to the vaccinated. And the ‘live free or die’ type tend not to get vaccinated in the first place. The virus looks for easy targets. Like them. Yum! It is resilient, it is a survivor. Are we?

Nipper 09-13-2021 09:23 AM

Thank you.
 
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2002501)
Far right website. No thanks.

MSM is my preferred news source and to obtain my information from. It is "main stream", not extreme.


Thank you!!!

Malsua 09-13-2021 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by drducat (Post 2003316)
Comirnaty is non existent.....try to find some.....not being made yet...maybe in a couple of years...good luck.

I think you could make a _legal_ argument that you will indeed vaccinate as mandated, once the vaccine that has full FDA approval is available. Labels matter. If the label doesn't say Comirnaty, it's not the FDA approved vaccine and hence cannot be mandated.

If that takes 2 years, so it goes.

drducat 09-13-2021 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Malsua (Post 2003350)
I think you could make a _legal_ argument that you will indeed vaccinate as mandated, once the vaccine that has full FDA approval is available. Labels matter. If the label doesn't say Comirnaty, it's not the FDA approved vaccine and hence cannot be mandated.

If that takes 2 years, so it goes.

The people involved are beginning to leave.....these 2 over the booster....Sorry fox has this listed....read..not sure what the video says.

COVID-19 vaccine boosters unnecessary for most, say FDA advisers reportedly resigning over issue | Fox News

JMintzer 09-13-2021 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by drducat (Post 2003316)
Comirnaty is non existent.....try to find some.....not being made yet...maybe in a couple of years...good luck.

It's just the Pfizer vaccine w/a new name... (And yes, I had to look that up...)

JMintzer 09-13-2021 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by drducat (Post 2003318)
Same here....your good to go for most likely 20 years or so.

Well, I know that I'm good for at least 18 months, since that's how long it's been since I had Covid and when I had an antibody test last month...


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