So you agree to side with Science right up until it disagrees with you in studies and effective use by populations unable to get/afford other treatments??:pray:

You act like billion is lot of money. Well,it is if you’re accountable for it. If not it’s like spending quarters in dime store.

EXPLOSIVE Truth About Vaccines & COVID w/Inventor Of mRNA Vaccine Technology, Robert Malone - YouTube

The guy credited with developing MRNA vaccines and his thoughts on what's going on very interesting.

A vaccine should never made it off the shelf......No need when we have multiple therapeutics that work fast. Goes against the rules a tad.....


33 districts in Uttar Pradesh are now Covid-free: State govt - Hindustan Times


Uttar Pradesh: 23 districts are now Covid-19 free, recovery rate over 98% - Coronavirus Outbreak News


Uttar Pradesh government says early use of Ivermectin helped to keep positivity, deaths low | Cities News,The Indian Express


Do we need more proof?

Have you ever been to India? To have some idea how trust worthy some of their data is. What do you think of N Korea they have no, never had one, ever, cases of Covid.

I think trust is fading quickly. There is currently a proposal under consideration that would force banks and credit unions to provide your personal banking information throughout the year to the IRS. It’s a slippery slope. :ohdear:

I do know how trust worthy they are and I for one will tell you if your taking anyone of the many medications made in India....you have nothing to worry about.

What I said about Facebook and teen girls can be easily Googled. I stand by MY remarks. Everybody knows that we have 2 POLARIZED groups in the US,,,,vaxxed and UNvaxxed. I stand by those facts!!!!!!!

It depends…who and how. India is a continent. Many things done there we would not accept here. And other things are better. I like to be selective and data check myself.

Waning effectiveness of CV vaccine is easily corrected with additional shots. Dr. Hotez of Baylor Univ, said that the Pfizer vaccine was originally set up as a 3 dose regimen. That's NOT the problem! The problem is that the VIRUS does NOT standstill, it MUTATES. The virus is the ENEMY. It must be STOPPED. In a war or army situation, the anti-vaxxers are like infantry troops that refuse to pick up their weapons! Where does being anti-vaxx and anti-social stop? WE agree on the conclusion about free government and free people. The question to ask in light of the recent POLARIZATION (last 10 to 15 years) is which government will emerge in the future of the US? Waning CV effectiveness is going to be a future decision point for some people that expected the 2 shot mRNA regime to transfer total lifetime immunity to them - they will be disappointed!

Our CDC has enough Doctors and medical experts to impress and inform ME. If you or someone else has the time and medical knowledge to dispute the Expert in the US, be my guest. Use and abuse yourselves with ivermectin. But, be warned that many, many Americans have ALREADY DIED from it. I will gladly sell anyone some rhino horn powder if I get enough orders.

I agree with the content of this post.

Same as "Many Americans have died from the "Vaccine"."
Believe what you wish. I tend NOT to believe anything coming from these agencies. Most keep their own agenda as a first priority. In any case, Be Well!

Boy are you in for huge surprise.......................................... .................................................

If mutations are the problem, why is the booster the very same vaccine and dosage as the first two shots?

It has already been established on this forum in another thread that Robert Malone is not credible. Here is one article about him........

Robert Malone: Vaccine Scientist, Vaccine Skeptic - The Atlantic

“Not credible” very gently put….

Malone knows more about the technology than he is disclosing and your also in for a big surprise.......................................... ..................:evil6:

We shall see.

Now the Atlantic is a magazine I read sometimes. I’m willing to look at this article.

Ok, I read the article. To me it sounds like Malone was not given enough credit for his contribution to the discovery of mRNA in his opinion, and now he wants the limelight in any way he can. He sounds vindictive and disappointed. It must be hard to go against a vaccine that you want to take credit for. He sounds like an unhappy man.

Over use of vaccines is no different than over use of antibiotics where the virus will over come and grow to super bug status rendering the vaccines or antibiotic useless by means of evading by mutations....known fact.

I agree about overuse of antibiotics but did not know same principle applies to vaccines. Why is it that our experts in epidemiology are asking for high percentage of people to be vaccinated? That is the opposite of “overuse”.

"Waning " or not, I'm not sure that I will be getting a booster for this thing, UNLESS things change drastically for the worse. And I do not mean infections. I am talking about the death rate. I do not care about the infection rate. Everyone could be infected for all we know. What is the percentage of folks actually getting tested and how accurate are the tests? Infection rate means nothing to me. Death rate by Covid is the main factor. And what is the ratio of persons vaccinated that are having serious side effects, including death? Not that I fear this for myself, but since I am unlikely to die from Covid due to my healthy condition, why take a chance with the vaccine if there is any chance of it being a danger? I am not suggesting that anyone else decline the vaccination. I will neither endorse or discourage the use of this vaccination. I do feel that the vaccine has saved a lot of lives. How many, I do not know. Since everyone seems to think that masks are the great answer, perhaps it was not the vaccine but the mask that has saved so many lives.....:)

Which is why, I've been saying for months, that they should be testing for ANTIBODIES, and not ONLY for "active" covid...

Thank you. Finally some common sense ideas.

I could EASILY answer that question. But, more IMPORTANTLY, would real intelligent posters like the several Doctors that respond regularly to this forum - ask such a simplistic question of me?
I sincerely doubt it!

Good conclusion. I would also add the factor of MONEY. The is likely lots of dark money floating around the US that favors ANYONE that can add CONFUSION to this issue.

If about 10% of the people"know" or believe a certain fact, can that be TRUELY called a "known fact"??????

I believe that certain folks ^ should address their comments to the legalize pot forum.:MOJE_whot:

If it's so easy to answer, answer it! ""

Exactly and further proof is that 99% of the CV deaths in hospitals are THE UNVACCINATED!

And that book title should be, "The Art and Science of Deflection". A sure-fire best seller!

Just the 65 and older crowd......and only if? and then they argue "arguing there is not enough evidence to show it is safe and necessary."

FDA Advisory Panel Recommends Against Pfizer Covid Boosters—Except For People Over 65

Seems as there is a shift in thinking.....Big gap between Pfizer, Moderna vaccines seen for preventing COVID hospitalizations

Not only is the vaccine safe and necessary but they never seem to add that one of it’s side effects is that it seems to also get rid of colds or bronchitis, which I had a medium case of when I got vaccinated. Then had fever for a day then felt completely well after 48 hours. Cold or bronchitis gone. I know this is anecdotal but how is it they don’t study or report on the POSITIVE side effects of the vaccine?

I think that the vaccine CAUSED me and my spouse to catch colds that we NEVER get otherwise. It's been over ten years since I have had a cold but shortly after receiving my vaccination, I had head congestion and a cough I couldn't seem to get rid of. No fever. I never blamed it on the vaccination until you brought it up. Positive? I have no idea whether or not I was ever exposed to Covid so I do not know if the vaccinate worked for me. I have never had the flu so who knows whether or not I would have ever contracted the virus. I have no regrets regarding my search and obtaining of the vaccination for my spouse (and myself) but I have to be honest and wonder out loud whether or not it has even had a chance to work for me. The negative side effects was none for my spouse that has all the medical issue, but a couple miserable days for me after the second shot. Worth it IF the virus worked for me.

If the vaccine caused your cold the moon is made out of blue cheese! Fever is a sign of the immunity system working, it seemed to have worked on other infection as well. I believe you had a cold I just don’t believe the vaccine caused it and there are 7 million Israelis who agree with me. ;)

Get a Covid antibody test. Ask them to test for the "natural" immunity antibodies...

You may be surprised at the results...

And yet, you feel that the vaccine prevented you from catching a cold. OK.
Maybe the reason you haven't heard anyone speaking of the positive side effects is that there is no evidence of such, other than a reduction in covid infections that are now back to the high percentage.
I have only met a couple "Israelis" in the past so I have no idea if any of them agree with me...

I always thought it was GREEN cheese...:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: