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Velvet 11-09-2020 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 1858510)
NY State bar has passed MANDATORY Covid-19 vaccinations. If an insufficient number of people willingly get the vaccine, they could be ordered to be vaccinated.

That’ll be fun to try to enforce. I have friends in NY. Obdurate to say the least.

vintageogauge 11-09-2020 03:20 PM

If it's not good enough for Cuomo it's good enough for me, I'll be ready and willing. How much testing goes into the new flu vaccines every year or is it always the same?

New Englander 11-09-2020 04:53 PM

I've been wondering how they know if a vaccine is effective? Are people who get the vaccine exposed to the live virus?

stanley 11-09-2020 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 1858510)
NY State bar has passed MANDATORY Covid-19 vaccinations. If an insufficient number of people willingly get the vaccine, they could be ordered to be vaccinated.

Well what they really did is pass a "resolution", which legally means squat.

"The New York State Bar Association on Saturday passed a resolution urging the state to consider making it mandatory for all New Yorkers to undergo COVID-19 vaccination when a vaccine becomes available, even if people object to it for “religious, philosophical or personal reasons.”


I'm sure mandatory vaccinations will be fought in the Supreme
Court(s), again, if and when the time comes.

Stanley

coffeebean 11-09-2020 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 1858415)
President Trump already had the virus so why would he get the vaccine?

Biden seems very worried about the virus so he should be first in line to get this vaccine. Same with Fauci and Harris.

It is not known yet how long protection (immunity) from the virus will last after a person has had the virus.

coffeebean 11-09-2020 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 1858439)
Nope. And I don't find the timing of Pfizer's announcement coincidental.

I heard on MSNBC today that Pfizer has a third party conducting the vaccine trials. The Pfizer CEO was notified only yesterday, Nov. 8th, at 2:00pm of the news that was announced today.

The timing of this announcement had nothing to do with the election.

skyking 11-09-2020 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by New Englander (Post 1858558)
I've been wondering how they know if a vaccine is effective? Are people who get the vaccine exposed to the live virus?

They see if the subjects develop effective antibodies.

chet2020 11-10-2020 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1858562)
Well what they really did is pass a "resolution", which legally means squat.

"The New York State Bar Association on Saturday passed a resolution urging the state to consider making it mandatory for all New Yorkers to undergo COVID-19 vaccination when a vaccine becomes available, even if people object to it for “religious, philosophical or personal reasons.”


I'm sure mandatory vaccinations will be fought in the Supreme
Court(s), again, if and when the time comes.

Stanley

The State Bar qualifies their statement by saying that making vaccines mandatory should not be the first option. If voluntary vaccinations are sufficiently high, it's not necessary.

Timothyimitchell 11-10-2020 06:30 AM

I've been just fine without any vaccines. No way will I have that injected into my body.

biker1 11-10-2020 06:40 AM

I assume you don't travel extensively. There are many parts of the world where certain vaccinations are highly recommended. You almost certainly had some vaccinations as a child.


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Originally Posted by Timothyimitchell (Post 1858742)
I've been just fine without any vaccines. No way will I have that injected into my body.


44Apple 11-10-2020 06:46 AM

Yup.

asianthree 11-10-2020 08:14 AM

Anaphylactic for the flu vaccine, I’m certainly not going to take a risk on a vaccine that has been on the market for a few months.
But if New York does think that they can impose a law everyone must get the vaccine, their families might end up with a very large lawsuit payout, for anyone who has adverse reactions

Chi-Town 11-10-2020 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 1858396)
No. I believe I've already been exposed to the virus multiple times and probably have already had it. I will, however, strongly encourage anyone who is concerned about this virus to get this vaccine. The sooner they have peace of mind and feel safe, the sooner things will get back to normal.

Best thing to do is get tested to see if you have the antibodies. It's very simple and fast with no nasal swab, and it will change belief into reality.

Altavia 11-10-2020 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by New Englander (Post 1858558)
I've been wondering how they know if a vaccine is effective? Are people who get the vaccine exposed to the live virus?

They vacinate half a population with the vaccine and the other half without. And then monitor who gets COVID and who does not. At his point, it appears that out of +35,000 participants, close to 100 have gotten COVID, only 9 of those who received the vaccine got COVID.

They do not expose participants to the virus.

chet2020 11-10-2020 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 1858984)
They vacinate half a population with the vaccine and the other half without. And then monitor who gets COVID and who does not. At his point, it appears that out of +35,000 participants, close to 100 have gotten COVID, only 9 of those who received the vaccine got COVID.

They do not expose participants to the virus.

There are trials called "challenge trials" where they give people the experimental vaccine, then give them the live virus. These trials are considered unethical by many. However, they are highly efficient and fast. There is a group in England that wants to run challenge trials and the last time I looked, they had 37,000 people that would volunteer for such trials.


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