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DeanFL 04-23-2021 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy (Post 1934237)
The jury was sequestered as soon as the Prosecutors/Defense rested their cases. They did not see or hear the politician that the Judge admonished. The Judge overstepped his boundaries when he told the Defense they had a probable case for appeal. Totally inappropriate and uncalled for.

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U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., showed up at an anti-police brutality protest in Brooklyn Center, Minnesota, on Saturday evening, saying demonstrators needed to "stay on the street," demanding justice until police reform becomes a reality.

"I’m going to fight with all of the people who stand for justice," Waters told reporters shortly before an 11 p.m. curfew. "We’ve got to get justice in this country and we cannot allow these killings to continue."

The jury was home then (not in the courthouse), and the trial ended Monday when they went into deliberation.

The judge DID NOT say "probable", but alluded to the fact that politicians speech should not undermine the judicial system.

Please don't make up your own facts....
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retiredguy123 04-24-2021 09:54 AM

The Chauvin trial was not fair. In a fair trial, all 12 jurors must individually agree to convict. And, they must be able to make that decision without any fear of retribution against them. Can you imagine being the only juror to disagree with the verdict? Would you feel safe?

rustyp 04-24-2021 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1934505)
The Chauvin trial was not fair. In a fair trial, all 12 jurors must individually agree to convict. And, they must be able to make that decision without any fear of retribution against them. Can you imagine being the only juror to disagree with the verdict? Would you feel safe?

That is interesting food for thought. If the trial is moved out the area in this case out of the Minneapolis Police Jurisdiction it would probably help relieve the jurors fear factor some. But then does this mean "by a jury of your peers" ? I have no idea.

A point of note about hung juries. Having one juror not coming to consensus is not the same as acquittal. It is not over at that point. The option then go as follows:

After a mistrial has been declared due to a hung jury
1. the prosecutor may end up dismissing the charges levied against the defendant.
2. a plea bargain may be reached after a mistrial has been declared.
3. If neither of these things occur, the mistrial will end up leading to the defendant being tried on all of the same charges in another trial to be held at a later date. Double jeopardy does not apply in the event of a mistrial.

Stu from NYC 04-24-2021 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1934505)
The Chauvin trial was not fair. In a fair trial, all 12 jurors must individually agree to convict. And, they must be able to make that decision without any fear of retribution against them. Can you imagine being the only juror to disagree with the verdict? Would you feel safe?

I have to believe that at least some of the jurors were persuaded to vote guilty out of a sense of fear.

Their names get out and the next thing that happens a mob shows up outside their front door.

Prominent politicians are calling for a guilty vote or taking to the streets before the verdict was even decided.

In what world was this a fair trial?

I believe he deserved a guilty verdict but not like this.

Becca9800 04-24-2021 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1932717)
You are exactly correct! Which is why this is such an important step toward change, true justice and equality - for everyone.

There was NO justice here. I'm left w even more distrust in our criminal justice system. And now, Qualified Immunity is at risk. I wouldn't be a LEO today on a bet. God bless those that are.

Becca9800 04-24-2021 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by maggie1 (Post 1932930)
I believe we know enough by watching members of their organization who were seen crashing through the doors of the Capitol on January 6th. They might not represent the ideals of all Proud Boy factions, but how do you begin to separate the good apples from the bad?

Yep. And one bad cop in the mix makes them all bad cops. One bad doc... all are rotten. One bad FedEx driver, and they all suck. One surly server, they're all surly. Jesus, please help us.

Catalina36 04-25-2021 05:14 AM

George Floyds family sued and received 27 Million? I understand the police officer was wrong in how he acted and caused the death of George Floyd but 27 million dollars?????

Catalina36 04-25-2021 05:33 AM

If George Floyd was not trying to pass a $20 counterfeit bill he would be alive today.
If George Floyd respected the Police Officers and was not resisting arrest he would be alive today.
George Floyd was a drug dealer, a drug addict, and served time in prison with a history of violence.
George Floyd is not a Dr. Martin Luther King, but yet the news media is making him seem like he was a good citizen??
George Floyds family sued the City and received 27 million. I don't understand why 27 million??

retiredguy123 04-25-2021 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Catalina36 (Post 1934751)
If George Floyd was not trying to pass a $20 counterfeit bill he would be alive today.
If George Floyd respected the Police Officers and was not resisting arrest he would be alive today.
George Floyd was a drug dealer, a drug addict, and served time in prison with a history of violence.
George Floyd is not a Dr. Martin Luther King, but yet the news media is making him seem like he was a good citizen??
George Floyds family sued the City and received 27 million. I don't understand why 27 million??

It was $27 million because the person or persons who authorized the amount did not need to spend a dime of their own money. Spending other people's money (taxpayers) is very easy to do.


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