[jog222]

Originally Posted by tvbound

You mean like those people who were fed up with unfairness, inequality and used it as an excuse, to dump someone else's property into Boston Harbor in 1773?

So you would have no problem if people who were fed up with with unfairness, inequality, etc..., burned your house down in the name of justice?

[djspinner1]

This was nothing but politics. It was wrong what he did but he did not get a fair trail.
Put your self on that jury, would you have said not guilty knowing what would happen.

[DeanFL]

Originally Posted by tvbound

"does it also hold true that they kill twice as many white people a year because they are white?"

You may want to research the per-capita ratio, in your misleading statement. Almost 5 times as many whites than blacks in this country, but only twice as many whites killed - tells a different story.

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actually, Paul Harvey would tell "the rest of the story". It would include the %'s of serious crime nationwide, fleeing suspects, armed and dangerous perps - etc etc. by racial demographics.
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[Pat2015]

Originally Posted by jbrown132

How many of those jurors do you think sat in that jury room and said to themselves if I vote to acquit on any of those charges I don’t want to be the one responsible for watching my city burn. The judge should have changed the venue and the jury should have been sequestered throughout the trial. Not saying innocent or guilty, just saying almost impossible to get a fair trial under those circumstances.

Agree! There was a lot of media; a huge civil settlement before the criminal trial even started; rioting; incitement to riot by Maxine based on the verdict; and an overall fear for their own well being. I’m not saying he was innocent. What I am saying is that there could never have been a fair trial there given all of these circumstances and the tremendous pressure on the jury to vote to convict.

[DeanFL]

Originally Posted by Patriceunger

Agree! There was a lot of media; a huge civil settlement before the criminal trial even started; rioting; incitement to riot by Maxine based on the verdict; and an overall fear for their own well being. I’m not saying he was innocent. What I am saying is that there could never have been a fair trial there given all of these circumstances and the tremendous pressure on the jury to vote to convict.

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agree. and now, when this 'story' plays out and loses Media interest - it will be 'NEXT!!!' and the next one (if it fits their narrative) will be exploited.
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[tvbound]

Originally Posted by DeanFL

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actually, Paul Harvey would tell "the rest of the story". It would include the %'s of serious crime nationwide, fleeing suspects, armed and dangerous perps - etc etc. by racial demographics.
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NAACP | Criminal Justice Fact Sheet

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by DeanFL

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With the speed of the jury verdict - Chauvin will be found guilty of some, if not all charges. Not saying right or wrong at all.

BUT with the jury NOT sequestered for the 3 weeks, with all the local MN publicity and "commotion" and ESPECIALLY the public "commentary" by political leaders... Definite Appeal material for defense. Said directly from the Judge after the jury left the courtroom after the Closing>

"I wish elected officials would stop talking about this case, especially in a manner that is disrespectful to the rule of law and to the judicial branch and our function," Cahill added later. "I think if they want to give their opinions, they should do so in a respectful and in a manner that is consistent with their oath to the Constitution, to respect a coequal branch of government."
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The verdict was obvious. I could have told you before it was announced. It was trial by riot. Was anything appropriate? Of that I am not sure.

Imagine the judge. The sentence will be announced in six months. I am far from a legal expert but that seems not to be normal. Perhaps, the motive is to allow threat of riot to
cool.

Appeal? The judge himself knows it will be appealed. Will it be granted? That will be interesting to find the answer to that question.

Imagine being a cop today. Not sure how much that has changed. Do i really want to catch this guy? I worked in a bad neighborhood. Often the obvious answer was no.

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

One example. Overall, the rate of police killings of black people is far higher than that of whites. You're welcome to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

Do you really want facts?!?
Fact: black males comprise 5.8% of the population in the US
Fact: black males commit more than 50% of the murders and burglaries in the US
Fact: whites are twice as likely to be killed by police as blacks
Not opinions - just facts...

[ribil]

Originally Posted by Bucco

WOW......so many simply miss the point of exactly what justice is, and roll everything into some messed up ball of pure hate.

Rioting and looting have absolutely nothing to do with “the point of what justice is...”. And I “hate” that it is allowed to happen.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Yes like them.

Looting and stealing has no place in "activism". NONE. ZERO. No matter WHO does it. Bogie you and I sit on different sides of the political aisle. But stealing and burning and ruining anything is WRONG and should not be protected by the First Amendment.

I am in agreement with your opinion.
Where I sit doesn’t matter on this.........

[ron32162]

With all of the information on the jury, names, faces and how they voted. Who in their right mind would of voted any other way these people waiting outside of the courthouse would have erupted.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by djspinner1

This was nothing but politics. It was wrong what he did but he did not get a fair trail.
Put your self on that jury, would you have said not guilty knowing what would happen.

Would you?

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by tvbound

"does it also hold true that they kill twice as many white people a year because they are white?"

You may want to research the per-capita ratio, in your misleading statement. Almost 5 times as many whites than blacks in this country, but only twice as many whites killed - tells a different story.

For most of us, we can and do spin facts to support our point of view. I am amused that people's point of view changes when it directly effects them.

My sister, a liberal, repeatedly told me we should support illegal aliens. Hum, she is now playing a different tune. My niece was rear ended by a car driven by an illegal alien. Her car was rolled over onto her left arm. There was a chance she would lose her left arm.
She still has it but it is virtually useless. The driver of the other car did not even have a valid drivers license or insurance. The driver was not deported. Her father bought her another car and she was out driving again before my niece was out of the hospital.

Things are not perfect nor will they ever be.

[jbrown132]

Originally Posted by skarra

This is the first step towards EVERYONE regaining confidence in law enforcement, particularly amongst people of color who have been singled out in the past.

We eliminated one very bad apple which is good for the entire system.

I’m not sure what it’s the beginning of. It could be the beginning of police saying I’m not going to arrest that guy or I could end up in prison or loose my pension. Let’s see what the crime statistics look like in two years. No one knows where this is going.

[riamd1954]

It’s so obvious the jury was already to say not guilty even before they sequestered!