[JRcorvette]

“Ignorance is Bliss”

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by Wondering

Pathetic response! You a lobbyist for the NRA/Gun industry? There is no truth to what you have stated. Again, Pathetic!

Overreact much?

[ffresh]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

True, but we don't require people to prove they will be proficient in raising children, no requirement to prove they are competent to vote, no requirement to prove they know to eat healthy foods and to maintain proper health.
Driving tests for a driver's license are a joke. In many areas if you can start the car and drive around the block using turn signals, you are good to go. You don't have to demonstrate how to react in an emergency situation. There are far, far more people driving motor vehicles than carry firearms.

The most important part of the equation, however, is that the Second Amendment enshrined in our Constitution attests to "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". You don't have to prove yourself or hit a target at so many yards to exercise a Constitutional right - although proficiency with your chosen weapon makes a LOT of sense. One does not have to prove proficiency with the English language, for example, to exercise free speech, etc.

Fred

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by JRcorvette

Why is it so scary??? Do you really thing the Bad Guys out there have Carry Permits? People have been carrying guns without permits for a very long time. Nothing will change.

I'm not worried about the Bad Guy who ignored the law anyway. The people I'm worried about are the ones who own guns but were denied carry permits, the ones who own guns but didn't apply for the permit because they believed they would be denied, and the ones who didn't own guns but will now because the new law paired with old rhetoric makes it fashionable to carry. Some number of those people may be carrying now.

The Bad Guy with the gun has been there all my life. The Good Guy who is now carrying but doesn't have a clue how to react in a bad situation is what will worry me going forward.

[Larchap49]

Originally Posted by BobnBev

I'm worried about all the old drunks in The Villages who can now carry guns. Can you think road rage?

Most of those old drunks are veterans and have permits and already carry guns.

[Larchap49]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Cool, I can now bring my sig down to Florida and put it in the bed stand drawer instead of a tomahawk. I feel safer already if someone breaks into the house in the middle of the night : )

News flash you've always been allowed to have it in your nightstand and or your car providing you don't have a criminal record. Now you can put it in a holster in your waistband.

[Larchap49]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

A young mother and her son approach a neighbor to apologize for her kids encroaching on the neighbors property and she is shot dead. Shot fired thru a closed door……..defense stand your ground. Yep a criminal in danger………….
I have zero sympathy for the old lady with a gun!

?

What does a shot fired thru a closed door have to do with a concealed carry discussion?

[Larchap49]

Originally Posted by BobnBev

To answer your question, Gun permits are no longer required in Florida.

And never were for criminals

[MrFlorida]

Originally Posted by JoMar

Will be interesting to see how the reciprocity agreements in other states are changed or if they will still require a permit if you carry in their state.

Read the law ! You still will need your CCW for travel in other states.... and Florida will still issue CCW's for this purpose.

[coconutmama]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I'm not worried about the Bad Guy who ignored the law anyway. The people I'm worried about are the ones who own guns but were denied carry permits, the ones who own guns but didn't apply for the permit because they believed they would be denied, and the ones who didn't own guns but will now because the new law paired with old rhetoric makes it fashionable to carry. Some number of those people may be carrying now.

The Bad Guy with the gun has been there all my life. The Good Guy who is now carrying but doesn't have a clue how to react in a bad situation is what will worry me going forward.

Amen to that.

One can abide by the 2nd amendment but still should have to take a course, and hopefully have no criminal or mental health issues. We are supposed to have a license to drive a car but don’t need one for a gun? Does a license stop all bad drivers? Of course not. But it has to help.

Additionally, look at all the anger, fear & hate in society now. People being shot because they turn in a driveway or came to a door. It isn’t the bad guy I will encounter on a daily basis, it is the uneducated fearful good citizen.

Then there is the gun with no safety lock that gets found in grandma’s nightstand when the grandkids visit…

[MrFlorida]

Hopefully this law will make criminals think twice before commiting a crime .

[ElDiabloJoe]

Originally Posted by BobnBev

Very scary new law. Gun permits are no longer required in Florida. There is still a waiting period to purchase a handgun if you don't have a CCW. Got to be a nightmare for Law Enforcement. Every person they stop is a potential shooter.

Not scary at all, it is a guaranteed Constitutional Amendment. In fact, such an important one they made it the 2nd one. Do you think we should have permits applied for, judged, then issued for you to say what you want or go to the church you wish? Then why should you do so for having the ability to protect yourself from harm?

[airstreamingypsy]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

A young mother and her son approach a neighbor to apologize for her kids encroaching on the neighbors property and she is shot dead. Shot fired thru a closed door……..defense stand your ground. Yep a criminal in danger………….
I have zero sympathy for the old lady with a gun!

Actually, the nasty old white lady had just thrown something, and it hit, the black kid, and that's why the mother was at the door with her child. Crazy white woman shot and killed the mother, through the locked door. When police talked to her she immediately claimed she was standing her ground. People in Florida seem to think it's safe to murder others and claim stand your ground. I suspect that started when Zimmerman got away with murdering Trayvon Martin.

I too have zero sympathy for the old woman, I hope she gets a life sentence.

[Susan1717]

Lol that is funny!!! Yes Least safe feeling in chicago or NY!! I will not walk one single block now when I visit back up north.

[Haggar]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

Not scary at all, it is a guaranteed Constitutional Amendment. In fact, such an important one they made it the 2nd one. Do you think we should have permits applied for, judged, then issued for you to say what you want or go to the church you wish? Then why should you do so for having the ability to protect yourself from harm?

I'm missing something. The 2nd amendment has been quoted as allowing anyone to carry a concealed weapon. Did the requirement to get a permit prohibit anyone to carry a weapon? The new law eliminates the paperwork. In what cases were permits denied?
Mentally impaired? People with prior violent criminal records? Wasn't that a good thing? Is the gun you are allowed to carry now one you own or can you legally carry a friend's/relative's weapon? I would think that permitting was a reasonable way to prohibit non criminals who were dangerous to either themselves or others to not be allowed to carry a weapon. Where is my logic wrong?