[Hardlyworking]

Originally Posted by Fltpkr

Here in The Villages? Who am I most worried about?? Probably an intoxicated, angry and frustrated Villager who is on an emotional edge.

Better hide in your walk-in closet.

[Cybersprings]

Originally Posted by Boomer

Geez. What have we here, this morning?

All I did was tell a little story from the 1970s. And now those cops (who are still carrying, and living in a retirement community in the South) are being called dirt-bags. Even had chapter and verse Fed law looked up to quote at me….wow

It was the 1970s. It was a little story. But, hey, it looks like it even turned out to have a point……

Ya know — like now — in this weird world of 2023 — hosting a big party could mean assuming that anybody and everybody could be armed…..

But, we all know that nobody ever drinks too much.

And nobody ever over-reacts on the subject of guns.

I don’t care if responsible people carry……

What I do care about is the potential for angry guys to take something totally out of context and react in a hair-trigger way.

I was not going to engage in this one. But I just had to defend my little story. (sigh) This is a microcosm of what is happening to us……The art of conversation can no longer be taken for granted. We now often have to approach even in-person discussions like walking on eggs — or like a minefield. Too many people are too easy to set off.

Boomer

I really need to stop looking at these threads.

Pointing out the innaccuracies in someone's post (and using chapter and verse to do so) does not equate to "set off" or overreacting. I agree with your comment that "The art of conversation can no longer be taken for granted. " If someone is shown the error in their point, they often act like a victim of a violent crime.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by Dantes

Citizens with guns is the reason for the 4 th of July

The 4th. July is also the reason Americans drive on the wrong side of the road, and can't navigate roundabouts!

[OETTING]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

The point was, highly restrictive gun control does not reduce crime.........what's your point?? No one says gun-friendly reduces crime.

I didn’t mention crimes, other than homicide. The states with the highest death rates from guns are those states with the worst controls.

[OETTING]

Originally Posted by Battlebasset

We don't live in "Florida". We live in a place called "The Villages, Florida".

It is a lazy analysis to take a large diverse piece of land with invented borders and try to prove such a point as this. The Villages is quite safe. Jacksonville? Miami Gardens? Not so much. Peoria, IL? Lots of gun violence. Naperville, IL? Not so much.

Gun violence has much more to do with the people in the community and their respect for the law and law enforcement than anything else.

Nice deflection, but we do live in Florida. If you think TV is bulletproof, better not go out of the bubble!

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

The 4th. July is also the reason Americans drive on the wrong side of the road, and can't navigate roundabouts!

Well, yeah...but at least we can spell words without all those extra "u"s.

[Pballer]

For those of you that have a problem with the 2nd amendment, maybe you should move to Japan, Australia, England or Western Europe where guns are restricted and gun violence is rare. Otherwise deal with it. When everyone has unrestricted access to guns, everyone is safer. We need good guys with guns to protect us from the bad guys with guns.

[Cybersprings]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

The 4th. July is also the reason Americans drive on the wrong side of the road, and can't navigate roundabouts!

And FINALLY I understand the reasoning behind your posts. Not sure what took me so long.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Well, yeah...but at least we can spell words without all those extra "u"s.

Withot a dobt!

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Withot a dobt!

Lol!!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Pballer

For those of you that have a problem with the 2nd amendment, maybe you should move to Japan, Australia, England or Western Europe where guns are restricted and gun violence is rare. Otherwise deal with it. When everyone has unrestricted access to guns, everyone is safer. We need good guys with guns to protect us from the bad guys with guns.

You mean like the sheriff's deputy at Parkland, that good guy with the gun, who protected the kids from the bad guy with the gun?

Or any of the people who have guns who were good people at the mass shooting in Baltimore recently? Those 30 people who were shot, might have a thought about the good guy with the gun protecting them from the bad guy with a gun.

That is SUCH a tired cliche, it isn't true, it makes no sense, and it's dangerous thinking. Good guys with guns can be ineffective. They can be there - and not use their guns. They can be there and wait until they've already failed to protect some people, and then use their guns. They can use their guns and miss. They can THINK they're shooting a bad guy with a gun, but actually they're shooting someone who didn't have any gun at all.

Good guys are not infallible. And in some cases - they can cause more harm than they can prevent.

When the problem is "people with guns," then giving more guns to more people is not the answer.

[Gpsma]

Been away since july 1st. Just wonder how much carnge and slaughter is going on in TV?

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by Maker

One could move to Chicago or New York City or Detroit if highly restrictive gun control laws make you feel safer.

That pretty much says it all. If people want to get guns they will find them. If they want to kill someone they will. It's been going on in these cities for decades.

[mickey100]

Originally Posted by Pballer

For those of you that have a problem with the 2nd amendment, maybe you should move to Japan, Australia, England or Western Europe where guns are restricted and gun violence is rare. Otherwise deal with it. When everyone has unrestricted access to guns, everyone is safer. We need good guys with guns to protect us from the bad guys with guns.

And how is that working for us? Duh.

[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Or any of the people who have guns who were good people at the mass shooting in Baltimore recently? Those 30 people who were shot, might have a thought about the good guy with the gun protecting them from the bad guy with a gun.

It’s almost impossible to get a license to carry a gun in Maryland. The district in Baltimore, had 7 officers on duty, it should have had 20

Philadelphia (and Pittsburgh) are a special class of city in the commonwealth, regarding a license to carry. In the PAST TWO HOURS IN PHILLY

08:30pm - 8 people shot, 4 killed in active shooter incident

09:56pm- 3 people shot, 1 critical

10:06pm- 1 person shot