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Pardon me if this is a stupid question, but if people are successful in getting cities to defund the police, what does that mean? Does it mean no more police presence in that city? Who will "police" the thieves, the domestic batterers, the speeders, etc.?
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Here is the link to the FBI crime demographics tables...

FBI — Expanded Homicide Data Table 6
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Old 06-08-2020, 01:34 PM
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Old 06-08-2020, 01:38 PM
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You don't go deep enough on this "racism" issue. It is not about the color of one's skin, it about the quality and equality of education. The problem goes back to when, in many cases, the color of your skin or your sex determined if and to what extent your were educated. In this country and many other countries, the "rising tide" has not raised all boats. Poorly educated parents create a pathway for poorly educated children. it is a vicious circle. I thank god, every day, for the education my parents "made" me get. Until we solve the education parity problem nothing changes. There are three basic needs: food, clothing and shelter. If you can't earn it then you get it any way you can. You steal it, or expect "someone" to provide it for you. Bottom line here is: the "haves" do not want to associate with the "have nots". Nothing to do with the color of their skin.
Education is good. What would have been better is if in about 1965, as part of the Civil Rights Act. Lawmakers had worked on the problem of eliminating tribal ethnic separation of communities. Busing cost more money than would have been legislation forcing ALL new developments to be representative of all ethnic groups-it did NOT happen. Today we pay those costs (sometimes in lives).
Also, the tax % of the '50s + '60s was MUCH more progressive than today, where we have almost a flat income tax. That discourages upward mobility. It is MUCH more important than most people realize.
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What brutalizes law enforcement personnel? They aren’t all problematic. Many weren’t a problem when they were trained. Most didn’t become cops in hope of being brutal. I think a lot of cops found themselves becoming more and more abusive or aggressive as they experienced aggression against themselves. This is NOT a matter of ethnicity—it happens in all ethnicities—but the more it happens, the more it may change police behavior. A cop assigned a neighborhood with a high crime rate is especially likely to become aggressive.

Consider this. You are a new cop, with good intentions. Perhaps you have a degree in criminal justice. If you are assigned to a neighborhood with little crime, where people treat you with respect, turn to you for help, and thank you, you prosper and you become wiser and more helpful as the years pass. However, if you are assigned to a high crime neighborhood where people lie to you all the time, sneer at you all the time, see you as the enemy rather than as a rescuer, where people curse you to your face, where you are in fear of your lives, where you see criminals breaking laws and hurting people all the time, but know that if you arrest these people, they will be released in hours, then there’s a much better chance that you will become aggressive. Who can blame cops for learning to hate criminals? Who can blame cops for developing a sense of who is a criminal and who isn’t? It may seem unfair to many of us, but that’s how the mind works, how it develops.

I suspect that most “police brutality” can be traced to cops who were brutalized by the people against whom they now show brutality. Some many have come to associate that with skin color, but bear in mind that the problem is found among African-American cops, too. If all cops were treated with respect, many more would treat others with respect.
Wery possible. My solution would be to have a national draft just like the military was in the '60s. 2 or 3 years then you can leave or stay if you prove you are dependable and not corrupt and have had 3 years' worth of psychological testing to minimize aggressive ethnic prejudices. Move senior police over to the post office and keep infusing freshly drafted rookies. Volunteer police are more likely to be power-hungry and corrupt.
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Visit the FBI 2018 crime table. For murder they record the race of the victims and race of the offender.

For 2018 they show a total of 3,315 white murder victims. Race of offender in those murders, 2677 white, 514 African American, 61 other, 63 unknown.

For 2018 they show 2925 African American murder victims. Race of offenders in those murders 234 white, 2600 African American, 17 other, 74 unknown.
Assuming your numbers are correct, you've just verified that white on black murders are miniscule compared to black on black murders. So who exactly is the problem here?
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I have just spent time reading on the CDC and FBI homicide data base websites and I just do not see facts supporting systemic racism when it comes to murder statistics. Yes the # 1 cause of death in young black men ages 15-44 is murder while white men it is at # 4 but a whopping 94% of that murder is black on black and gang related AND 97% of the murder is committed in blue cities and has been since the 70'S.. I've lived my entire life in the suburbs of St Louis County where the Murder rate is around 3%, you can drive safely for hours North, South and West and that number doesn't change, HOWEVER, if I drive 15 minutes East that number explodes to 37%.. We St Louisans get so tired of hearing how we are the Murder Capital of the US when it's actually one little sliver of St Louis that makes up for 97% of that Murder where most of us avoid like the plague. St Louis City pop. 300,000 murder rate 37% St Louis County and surrounding areas population 2 MILLION murder rate 3%... Obviously poverty, gangs and drugs are a dangerous formula and IMHO until we get politics out of the equation these statistics will never change..
Would be fixed by homogeneous neighborhoods. Ghettos never improve society or GNP.
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Old 06-08-2020, 03:26 PM
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I completely agree with you. What these clowns are calling for is crazy. All the while ignoring how well organized the militants were and actually still are.

Strategically placing containers of bricks, rocks, plastic bottles filled with cement, to throw at the police. Many, law enforcement personnel were seriously injured.

And yes some have died.

It is madness. Defund the Police ? You people have no idea what the consequences would be. What on earth are you people thinking.

There are some who regularly post negative comments regarding law enforcement and for that you should be ashamed of yourselves.

I can't post here what I really want to say but needless to say it isn't pleasant !
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Slavery existed long before America was even discovered and Europeans began their trade. Slavery existed in the first civilizations like the Sumer in Mesopotamia (3500 BC)
Slavery has been inflicted by just about every race and religion on the planet. Africans, Caucasians, Asians, even American Natives had slaves. You'd be surprised that slavery still exists in several countries today, and they aren't run by white people.

You are making a blatant attempt to blame only whites for slavery. Do some more research.
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Just curious, but did you do this while also having...black skin?

Do you think your life would have been different at all...if you had?

Do you think any of us who were born white, really have a clue...what it's like to be black?

Other than reading about/talking to, those that are black...that is.



I believe where there’s a will, there’s a way. There are much more programs available for minorities than whites. Being black is no excuse for blaming others for all their problems. It’s learned multigenerational behavior. The cycle has to break. It’s time to take responsibility for oneself. It’s easier to sell drugs, steal, protest for equality then stay in school, work hard for higher education and pursue a better life. It’s up to each individual to accomplish this for themselves.
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Watch this video and see if you agree with this information. Are the Police Racist? | PragerU
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With pie charts and graphs and stuff.............just like school.
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I have not heard or read of one person, left or right, that isn't disgusted by the actions of all 4 of these police officers. Any attempt to paint an entire race or political faction otherwise is disingenuous at best and psychotic at worst.
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