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Nanny32162 08-07-2020 10:02 AM

The most recent was over the
 
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Originally Posted by GJohn (Post 1813726)
Just NY's way to retaliate against all the law suits brought against Cuomo by gun owners and firearms dealers. He never stops the assault!

New York State was sued because it did not place firearms stores on the "essential services list." Pharmacies and grocery stores did make the essential services list.Yesterday, the NRA has filed a defamation law suit against the New York State AG. I have not found any other references to other law suits by the NRA.

Nanny32162 08-07-2020 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Garwood1 (Post 1814009)
I am not a member of NRA but this is the first step in eliminating any and all things they don’t agree with and where does it stop or does it keep going until they have total domination of us all ?

This law suit is to stop illegal activity. If "it's the first step in eliminating any and all things they don't age with . . ." It seems to me that NYS doesn't agree with illegal activity, "where does it stop . . ." when all illegal activity is stamped out.

Number 10 GI 08-07-2020 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Fredman (Post 1813737)
I quit supporting them because of their position on ar15’s and ak47’s. No need for anyone to own those weapons. I have my share of guns but no seni-automatics

Lets see, no one needs a 500 horsepower car, a 100 horsepower engine is sufficient. No one needs a Chevy Suburban, a small 100 HP hatchback will suffice for most hauling needs. No one in The Villages needs a 3 or 4 bedroom home, a 1 or 2 bedroom is more than enough for a couple. There is actually no need for The Villages, everyone living here had a home before moving to TV. No one needs a home swimming pool, there are a number of public swimming pools in TV. No one needs a sports car, a small 4 door hatchback with a 100 HP engine meets everyone's needs. If you don't golf you don't need a golf cart. You said you have your share of guns, but Joe Biden says all you need is a double barrel 12 gauge shotgun that you can shoot in the air to scare off the bad guys. Actually you don't need any modern smokeless powder firearms, a black powder flintlock rifle will be sufficient. There is no need for restaurants, houses have a kitchen where you can cook your own meals. We don't need movie theaters, we all have a television. I could go on and on listing the things we don't need but for life to have any joy "wants" need to be available.

Bucco 08-07-2020 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Nanny32162 (Post 1814019)
This law suit is to stop illegal activity. If "it's the first step in eliminating any and all things they don't age with . . ." It seems to me that NYS doesn't agree with illegal activity, "where does it stop . . ." when all illegal activity is stamped out.

Does everyone understand that this has nothing to do with guns, but is in fact to protect those members who think they are donating to NRA charity.

It is a scam spending money donated on THEMSELVES and has nothing at all to do with guns directly.

If you are ok with the NRA spending your money on themselves, fine, but don't confuse the issue about guns. Donating to political groups is not allowed and they did it with members money. Now, maybe you knew where it was going to go and did not care, but it is against the law.

Heyitsrick 08-07-2020 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Nanny32162 (Post 1814019)
This law suit is to stop illegal activity. If "it's the first step in eliminating any and all things they don't age with . . ." It seems to me that NYS doesn't agree with illegal activity, "where does it stop . . ." when all illegal activity is stamped out.

Let's use your philosophy in another way.

"Joe" goes to the doctor because he has the flu. The doctor takes the bigger picture view of treatment and decides to just kill Joe. Why? Well, killing Joe certainly "stamps out" the flu, right? Why bother with treating the malady, itself?

The AG wants the NRA to die as an organization. She's not (so far, anyway) indicting the person or people she thinks is breaking the law. That is what prosecutors normally do. No, she's essentially saying every single person associated with NRA is guilty of something, apparently, and that the entire entity must therefore perish.

Joe V. 08-07-2020 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DecaturFargo (Post 1813854)
Long overdue. Corrupt, corrupt, corrupt. The NRA needs to go. And before someone blasts me. Yes, we own firearms.


You perhaps have in your custody any legitimate proof of this allegation? ANY?

EdFNJ 08-07-2020 10:50 AM

Don't worry folks. NRA or no NRA you can still keep packin' while at City Fire or while dancing at the squares (if it ever comes back) to protect yourselves from all the bad Villages varmints that may be lurkin' behind them thar shrubs. POW POW POW

taruffi57 08-07-2020 10:51 AM

Funny..........

funtime 08-07-2020 11:01 AM

This probably started last year when col Oliver North tried to clean up the corruption in the nra.
At that time in his resignation letter, by said he believes the NRA should establish a committee to review the organization’s finances, which he said constitute a “clear crisis” that “needs to be dealt with” if the NRA wants to continue to be a viable organization.
There was alot going on, this is when the corruption was uncovered, I believed the AG is following up on North's claims, and found them to be credible. Maybe it helps their agenda, but it still cleans up the organization. It doesnt mean they are dead either, I'm sure people like Oliver North would love to restart the group with honest intentions. This is the right thing to do.

foxmeadow 08-07-2020 11:05 AM

Real Men???
 
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Originally Posted by LoisR (Post 1813882)
Real men don't need guns, especially automatics. And this is from a former state rifle champion and former NRA member.

Sorry Lois R., not sure how long ago you were a NRA member and State champion, but you apparently misspoke, or you don’t know what you’re talking about. Automatics have been outlawed for the common citizens for many, many years.

foxmeadow 08-07-2020 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LowOnCash (Post 1813958)
I'm not a fan of automatic weapons but making them illegal means only crooks and terrorist have them. These slobs who kill with them don't buy their guns at gun shops!

Automatics are and have been outlawed for a long time. Those scary “assault rifles” are typically hunting rifles. Please read up on this topic!

foxmeadow 08-07-2020 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Heyitsrick (Post 1814029)
Let's use your philosophy in another way.

"Joe" goes to the doctor because he has the flu. The doctor takes the bigger picture view of treatment and decides to just kill Joe. Why? Well, killing Joe certainly "stamps out" the flu, right? Why bother with treating the malady, itself?

The AG wants the NRA to die as an organization. She's not (so far, anyway) indicting the person or people she thinks is breaking the law. That is what prosecutors normally do. No, she's essentially saying every single person associated with NRA is guilty of something, apparently, and that the entire entity must therefore perish.

Exactly!!

ficoguy 08-07-2020 11:37 AM

And the NRA quickly countersued NY. So this will be a draw but a good publicity stunt for the NY Attorney General
Kind of like putting Clay Shaw on trial for killing JFK - moot point

jimjamuser 08-07-2020 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1813648)
I don't own a firearm but I do support 2A, and I support the responsible ownership of firearms by responsible owners.

I also supported the NRA until 1993 when they lobbied for the Dickey amendment, which prohibits the CDC from using its funds to research gun violence in the USA.

I've been against the NRA ever since. The "organization" is nothing more than a very profitable lobby group now. And apparently a corrupt one that has put membership money into the pockets of its officers instead of spending it on its own causes. They never should've gotten their non-prof status in the first place. They can re-create themselves if they are dissolved, but their current incarnation is spoiled and unrecoverable, in my opinion.

Agreed. Good post. I stopped my membership in the 60s when they switched their emphasis from hunting animals and weapons designed for hunting to high margin expensive military style firearms used almost exclusively to KILL HUMANS - in effect hunting HUMANS. I personally would never shoot at a human outline or drawing of a human, even a depiction of a criminal. I would shoot only bulleyes. The NRA also pushed paint ball, which is basically practice for some imagined World War III or an apocalypse - Again it is hunting HUMANS. I also slowly switched to bow hunting which gave longer seasons and more of a woodsman challenge - also more time to walk among nature.

noslices1 08-07-2020 11:57 AM

No Semi-automatics?
 
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Originally Posted by Fredman (Post 1813737)
I quit supporting them because of their position on ar15’s and ak47’s. No need for anyone to own those weapons. I have my share of guns but no seni-automatics

So, you have some “revolvers” and maybe a Henry, Lever action style rifle, but no PISTOLS, like a .45 or 9mm and no Marlin .22 rifle? Nothing that you can just pull the trigger 8-10 times and not have to re-cock to shoot again? Except for the look of the gun, an AR-15 is basically the same as the Marlin, .22 semi-automatic rifle I had when I was 16 yrs old.


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