[drducat]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

When media or influencers spread disinformation that can result in people losing their lives, I would like to see the AG begin investigations into these companies or individuals. And if it can be proven that the spreader KNEW it was false, then the AG should press charges amounting 1st degree murder.

Freedom of Speech does not extend to putting peoples lives in danger.

Maybe if a few people are held legally responsbile for the deaths they cause, others will start to think twice. At this point, spreading inflammatory disinformation has no consequences except to enrich the people spreading the lies.

Notice please, that I did not say which side is spreading the lies. If there is a lie being spread I don't care if it is FOX or CNN. If they know it is a lie, and it it puts peoples lives in danger, they should be prosecuted.

As far as if someone should take a vaccine or not is entirely a personal decision and the media should stay out of it. Stick with the studies already done. I never watch news...ever....links are un avoidably going to some news articles.

This kind of hypothesis is what I am talking about..has nothing to do with covid jabs and from 2015. Proof is yet to come....who really knows?

Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens




Such as this one.

[ithos]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan View Post
When media or influencers spread disinformation that can result in people losing their lives, I would like to see the AG begin investigations into these companies or individuals. And if it can be proven that the spreader KNEW it was false, then the AG should press charges amounting 1st degree murder.

Freedom of Speech does not extend to putting peoples lives in danger.

Maybe if a few people are held legally responsbile for the deaths they cause, others will start to think twice. At this point, spreading inflammatory disinformation has no consequences except to enrich the people spreading the lies.

Notice please, that I did not say which side is spreading the lies. If there is a lie being spread I don't care if it is FOX or CNN. If they know it is a lie, and it it puts peoples lives in danger, they should be prosecuted.

What you are advocating is fascism. Who will be the arbiter of what is true and what is false? The government?

Sometimes they are the biggest liars. They lied about the origin of the virus, hydroxychloroquine, school closures and so much more.

Scientists and medical professionals disagree all the time. I want to be exposed to all arguments so I can decide what is in my best interest.

[WesMan]

Originally Posted by Swoop

Just a few months ago eight members of the Yankees organization tested positive for Covid. Now six more players on the 25 man active roster have tested positive. Five of them had been vaccinated…

Tell them to get the shots!!!!! Over paid brats!!

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by WesMan

Tell them to get the shots!!!!! Over paid brats!!

Do you have a reading comprehension issue? They had been vaccinated!

[Mac1996]

The communist regime that the United States has been in bed with for the last 50 years are the ones we need to be going after!O yeah it’s called China!

[scottiesrgreat@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by Swoop

Do you have a reading comprehension issue? They had been vaccinated!

Really - this is big, old horrible news?

Ask people who are losing family and friends each and every day from a myriad of threats so much more worse than testing positive for Covid - I know many suffering right now who would switch places with these ball players and with people like you who think testing covid positive is the worse thing that can happen to anyone, sorry - it is not.

Goodness - you are one extremely fortunate individual - if the threat of covid is the biggest priority and fear you have in life. You are EXTREMELY fortunate.

[Dana1963]

Originally Posted by Swoop

Just a few months ago eight members of the Yankees organization tested positive for Covid. Now six more players on the 25 man active roster have tested positive. Five of them had been vaccinated…

Florida reported 16,730 new cases July 16. As many will say SO WHAT.

[scottiesrgreat@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by Dana1963

Florida reported 16,730 new cases July 16. As many will say SO WHAT.

Yes - so what!

Family and friends have died of other threats - no one cares or obsesses about it. I sound like a broken record - but, my goodness - pick up the paper - everyone who has died - car accidents, suicide, cancer, heart attack, stroke, birth defects, abuse, domestic violence, neglect, ……. would switch places with one of those 16,730! In a heartbeat!

Put things in perspective.

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by scottiesrgreat@gmail.com

Really - this is big, old horrible news?

Ask people who are losing family and friends each and every day from a myriad of threats so much more worse than testing positive for Covid - I know many suffering right now who would switch places with these ball players and with people like you who think testing covid positive is the worse thing that can happen to anyone, sorry - it is not.

Goodness - you are one extremely fortunate individual - if the threat of covid is the biggest priority and fear you have in life. You are EXTREMELY fortunate.

I do not fear Covid. I chose not to get a vaccine that hasn’t undergone any long term testing. For me, the statistical odds of dying from Covid, given my health are 4/100’s of 1%.
I simply used the incident with the Yankees to show that the number brake out cases among vaccinated people may be much higher than we were led to believe.

[Bay Kid]

Do people still watch baseball?

[Petersweeney]

Pickle ball anyone?

[merrymini]

I am not vaccinated.
You can have my shot to donate to anyone you wish.
Getting or not getting the shot is my business, not yours.
Many vaccinated people get covid but that does not fit the narrative so, sssshhh.
Anyone who would believe the garbage coming from the government should have their head examined.

[fpmoravcik]

Do they still get $13K for each positive, even i they have been vaccinated? Cha Ching

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by ithos

What you are advocating is fascism. Who will be the arbiter of what is true and what is false? The government?

Sometimes they are the biggest liars. They lied about the origin of the virus, hydroxychloroquine, school closures and so much more.

Scientists and medical professionals disagree all the time. I want to be exposed to all arguments so I can decide what is in my best interest.

Sorry, no it is NOT fascism, it is the legal system. We already do this in other cases. A person can be charged for yelling fire in a theater.

Who will be the arbiter, the jury - American citizens. Not the government, which would be Fascism.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by scottiesrgreat@gmail.com

Yes - so what!

Family and friends have died of other threats - no one cares or obsesses about it. I sound like a broken record - but, my goodness - pick up the paper - everyone who has died - car accidents, suicide, cancer, heart attack, stroke, birth defects, abuse, domestic violence, neglect, ……. would switch places with one of those 16,730! In a heartbeat!

Put things in perspective.

None of the other causes of death you listed are contagious. My dying of any of those will not increase your chances of dying of them if we had been in contact. That is the perpeective.