[drducat]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Holy cow! How did you do that?

That was before I changed my mind

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

that's quite a lot of "research". Could you please cite the legitimate sources for these assertions? Btw, "conspiracy theory weekly" is not a legitimate source:1rotfl:

bingo!

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Well, there is your first mistake. As an un-vaccinated individual, you SHOULD fear Covid. You are not invisible.

Do you live in fear of driving a car, or walking in a thunderstorm, or succumbing to any other accidental death? Because based on the current death rate, your odds are greater of dying in an accident than they are of dying from Covid. And given my age & health, my odds are 4/100’s of 1%. So, I repeat, I do not fear dying from Covid.

[Tim C.]

Happy when anything bad happens to the Yankees

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Tim C.

Happy when anything bad happens to the Yankees

Only thing worse than a Yankees fan is a Mets fan...

(I'm a Nats fan...)

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Swoop

Do you live in fear of driving a car, or walking in a thunderstorm, or succumbing to any other accidental death? Because based on the current death rate, your odds are greater of dying in an accident than they are of dying from Covid. And given my age & health, my odds are 4/100’s of 1%. So, I repeat, I do not fear dying from Covid.

I'm fully vaccinated so I don't fear Covid but I have a good reason to not fear dying from the disease. You don't.

BTW..........Where do you get your statistic of 4/100s of 1%, given your age and health?

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I'm fully vaccinated so I don't fear Covid but I have a good reason to not fear dying from the disease. You don't.

BTW..........Where do you get your statistic of 4/100s of 1%, given your age and health?

According to the CDC the odds of someone my age being hospitalized with Covid are 266.3 in 100,000, that’s .00267. Also according to the CDC 87% of those hospitalized were obese or overweight. I’m neither. That further lowers my odds to .00035. The CDC also said that the majority of those hospitalized had an average is 2.6 of the these pre existing conditions; diabetes, heart disease, lung disease or hypertension. So, actually without those, my odds drop to virtually zero. I’ll take those odds over an unproven vaccine technology

[bmit16]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Where did you find this information?

The CDC statistics

[Bay Kid]

Been lied to so much who do you believe?

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by bmit16

The CDC statistics

What link?

The CDC page I referred to yesterday showed 5,500 hospitalizations and 263 (or similar) deaths. Nothing close to 1,000 deaths and they no longer count reinfections.

Correction: I read the page wrong. The CDC does report 1,063 deaths. 272 of those may not have been COVID related

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Swoop

According to the CDC the odds of someone my age being hospitalized with Covid are 266.3 in 100,000, that’s .00267. Also according to the CDC 87% of those hospitalized were obese or overweight. I’m neither. That further lowers my odds to .00035. The CDC also said that the majority of those hospitalized had an average is 2.6 of the these pre existing conditions; diabetes, heart disease, lung disease or hypertension. So, actually without those, my odds drop to virtually zero. I’ll take those odds over an unproven vaccine technology

I truly wish you good luck and continued good health.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Swoop

According to the CDC the odds of someone my age being hospitalized with Covid are 266.3 in 100,000, that’s .00267. Also according to the CDC 87% of those hospitalized were obese or overweight. I’m neither. That further lowers my odds to .00035. The CDC also said that the majority of those hospitalized had an average is 2.6 of the these pre existing conditions; diabetes, heart disease, lung disease or hypertension. So, actually without those, my odds drop to virtually zero. I’ll take those odds over an unproven vaccine technology

I complete understand you rationale. You at least post well reasoned explanations of you decision. Thank you.

I disagree with you decision on one point, and that is, I got the vaccination as much to help stop the virus from spreading and killing others as I did to protect myself. I feel we all have an obligation to each other to help.

However, I think I recall you wear a mask when out and about, if that is true and I am not misremembering, then thank you for that too. If that is the case, I really have no issue with you decision, you thought about it and made a reasonable decision, and are taking steps to help reduce the spread.

Until vaccinations are mandatory, I think you are an excellent example of someone who doesn’t want the vaccine and yet is still being responsible.

[drducat]

I think yesterday it was 48% and now : COVID-19: 60% of people being admitted to hospital with coronavirus have been double-jabbed, says Vallance

This is in the UK...should hold true here..if not then something is terribly wrong.

COVID-19: 60% of people being admitted to hospital with coronavirus have been double-jabbed, says Vallance | UK News | Sky News

[GrumpyOldMan]

I think it is important to say which variant of the virus is dominating the breakthroughs. I can’t get to that article, they want to infect me with too many trackers. Sorry.

[drducat]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

I think it is important to say which variant of the virus is dominating the breakthroughs. I can’t get to that article, they want to infect me with too many trackers. Sorry.

He got it backwards...60% unvaxed hospitalized....yesterday the same info came out at 48% vaccinated....They can't even get their statements out correctly...not sure anymore.

Supposed to be Delta.

Israel has better data and they used pfizer vaccine where the Uk used Novavax.

The death rate is really low so far with the Delta variant....cases up but less harmful.