[scottiesrgreat@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Great advice! Maybe you should take it...

No one suggested that this news was the worst thing ever...

Who am I lashing out at? :-). I am simply just wondering why Yankees testing positive is such big news? You can stress about it - but, in the big picture of life - it really is a very, very, tiny piece of news - news that I guess would only be of interest to Yankee fans for some reason. If the members of my favorite sports team all tested positive - I’d say - ‘so what?’ - if they were experiencing health issues - then, I would hope they’d seek help and feel better soon (my sentiment would be the same if they experience any health issue - or personal tragedy)

I am going out to enjoy the day and spend time with friends and family - especially those that might need an extra smile or just need someone who can be there when they are experiencing an issue that, in my personal opinion - is more significant than stressing about the Yankees testing positive for Covid.

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

And sadly, either theory could be correct. But for now I'm more willing to believe the CDC is truthful than part of some conspiracy plot. But the final chapter is yet to be written

I’m not suggesting a “conspiracy plot”. But I am suggesting that every other day testing will provide more accurate results than the collective results of a theoretical model. I would guess that only a very small percentage of the general public who have been vaccinated have be tested, post vaccination. If what we have been told is true, then the vast number of those vaccinated who acquire Covid would be not be symptomatic, and therefore would not require testing and would never know that they had Covid…

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Swoop

I’m not suggesting a “conspiracy plot”. But I am suggesting that every other day testing will provide more accurate results than the collective results of a theoretical model. I would guess that only a very small percentage of the general public who have been vaccinated have be tested, post vaccination. If what we have been told is true, then the vast number of those vaccinated who acquire Covid would be not be symptomatic, and therefore would not require testing and would never know that they had Covid…

Sorry---that was someone else who was a conspiracy theorist. But this now begs the question----what does a positive test in a vaccinated individual really mean? The test may be picking up a leftover viral fragment which is known to happen. If the person is not "infected", then they are not spewing virus in a cloud around them, and therefore no threat to anyone, which in turn makes it ridiculous to quarantine them.

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Sorry---that was someone else who was a conspiracy theorist. But this now begs the question----what does a positive test in a vaccinated individual really mean? The test may be picking up a leftover viral fragment which is known to happen. If the person is not "infected", then they are not spewing virus in a cloud around them, and therefore no threat to anyone, which in turn makes it ridiculous to quarantine them.

So, if they are tested every other day, why would the leftover viral fragments not have triggered a positive in an earlier test? Why would six players test positive on the same day? And why would they get a conformation of the positive results in a subsequent test?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Or a new variant yet to be identified? Neither this pandemic or the learning curve is over quite yet

Finally, a statement that I CAN agree with! Amazing!

[La lamy]

Just makes me continue to believe in social distancing. There will always be some kind of disease that will find a way to breakthrough our "vaccines". There has been talk about the age of superbugs coming upon us for a while and I'm afraid we may be there.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Swoop

So you’re suggesting that the testing is flawed, because the results do not coincide with the information provided by the CDC?
What should be way more concerning is that those who received the vaccine are much more likely to become infected with Covid than we have been lead to believe.

What SHOULD be more "CONCERNING" is that disinformation is being spread about internally in the US trying to CONFUSE people that are making a basic life (or death) decision as to whether to get the vaccine or NOT. Small statistical examples (like a well-known baseball team) are manipulated to reach a PREDETERMINED conclusion.

A BETTER example to make the risk versus reward decision about getting the vaccine is the REAL-LIFE example currently in the news from Missouri. The hospitals in Springfield, Mo.are currently filled up with CV patients on LIFE SUPPORT equipment. Close to 100% of CV patients in Missouri are UN-vaccinated. The UN-vaccinated are gasping for breath on oxygen equipment - while the VACCINATED Missouri residents are going to work and living their lives. It is an easy decision - get a vaccine or take a chance on suffering desperately in a hospital. It is NOT a difficult decision. Don't be confused by disinformation purveyors!

[roscoguy]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

What is in question is whether a positive test truly means a case.

Here's the CDC's criteria : "Defining a vaccine breakthrough infection

For the purpose of this surveillance, a vaccine breakthrough infection is defined as the detection of SARS-CoV-2 RNA or antigen in a respiratory specimen collected from a person ≥14 days after they have completed all recommended doses of a U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-authorized COVID-19 vaccine."
COVID-19 Breakthrough Case Investigations and Reporting | CDC

Originally Posted by Bill14564

How many vaccinated folks walking around every day would be identified as a "case" if they had to undergo that level of testing?

That's why the CDC quit reporting breakthrough cases & transitioned to only counting deaths and hospitalizations among the vaccinated. There is just no way to know how many non-symptomatic cases there are without testing every vaccinated person.

Originally Posted by Bill14564

The question should be, does a positive test indicate an infection to be concerned about or are the tests so sensitive that they are finding "cases" that aren't really cases at all?

Well, "cases" that aren't infectious anyway.

[Pat2015]

Originally Posted by Swoop

So, if they are tested every other day, why would the leftover viral fragments not have triggered a positive in an earlier test? Why would six players test positive on the same day? And why would they get a conformation of the positive results in a subsequent test?

No one knows how many fully vaccinated people have gotten Covid or has it right now since most people are not being tested. The ongoing clinical study as to efficiencies and long term effects of the vaccines are unknown and vaccinated people will continue to be tracked for stat purposes to see the effects of the vaccines for a long time to come.

[drducat]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Sorry---that was someone else who was a conspiracy theorist. But this now begs the question----what does a positive test in a vaccinated individual really mean? The test may be picking up a leftover viral fragment which is known to happen. If the person is not "infected", then they are not spewing virus in a cloud around them, and therefore no threat to anyone, which in turn makes it ridiculous to quarantine them.

It only means that they are carriers and asymptomatic as I have been shot down on before. This vaccine is only B cell immunity...not T cell....which is full immune. Also.....

"This Is Worrying Me Quite A Bit": mRNA Vaccine Inventor Shares Viral Thread Showing COVID Surge In Most-Vaxxed Countries


"This Is Worrying Me Quite A Bit": mRNA Vaccine Inventor Shares Viral Thread Showing COVID Surge In Most-Vaxxed Countries | ZeroHedge

Follow the links inside to the tweets if you want to know..

[Burgy]

Geri is in fantasy land

[Burgy]

And where does that info come from?

[drducat]

Originally Posted by Burgy

And where does that info come from?

Robert W Malone, MD
@RWMaloneMD
Inventor of mRNA vaccines and RNA as a drug, Bench to Bedside vaccines and biologics consulting.

[bmit16]

There is never any mention of the millions of people who had covid and have the anti bodies. In fact, there have been 71 confirmed reinfections of these people, in contrast, over 100,000 people have contracted covid after being vaccinated and 1000 of them have died. Why does the government not put this vital information in their push to get people vaccinated? Perhaps we should follow the money to see who in Washington is benefiting financially from vaccinations. If you have not had covid and you have not been vaccinated, then you should probably consider a vaccination. But the people who have been confirmed to have had covid, should get the same pass as a vaccinated person who in fact is more vulnerable.

[drducat]

Originally Posted by bmit16

There is never any mention of the millions of people who had covid and have the anti bodies. In fact, there have been 71 confirmed reinfections of these people, in contrast, over 100,000 people have contracted covid after being vaccinated and 1000 of them have died. Why does the government not put this vital information in their push to get people vaccinated? Perhaps we should follow the money to see who in Washington is benefiting financially from vaccinations. If you have not had covid and you have not been vaccinated, then you should probably consider a vaccination. But the people who have been confirmed to have had covid, should get the same pass as a vaccinated person who in fact is more vulnerable.

100% agree and those that did take the jab end up destroying the natural immunities and replace with much weaker.