[Cranford61]

Originally Posted by John41

Floyd had a criminal record for drug dealing and armed robbery including robbing a pregnant woman by sticking a gun in her stomach. If he hadn’t resumed his criminal career when he got out of jail, he wouldn’t have been stopped by the police and gotten himself killed resisting arrest. The officer used a lawful control technique to restrain Floyd and should not be prosecuted. More blacks die shooting each other in Chicago everyday that by all the police in a year.

Stop annoying me with the facts. It’s clouding my truths.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Joe C.

It's amazing how things can get sidetracked from the original post about "peaceful protest".
So I need to bring up the fact that a peaceful protest doesn't mean "non violent".
A peaceful protest should not be "disruptive". It should not lead to chaos. When protesters close down a bridge or shut down a highway, it becomes disruptive.

BTW did you see the woman on the news saying that burning and looting isn't violent, because those things can be rebuilt and replaced.

HUH???? Technically speaking, is that a non sequitur or an oxymoron?

[hrdcorpsmarine]

I’m sorry, but I would have to disagree with your precept.

[brunogal]

Originally Posted by Dgizzi

I haven’t seen a peaceful one yet..nothing good comes out of protesting.

A friend from high school and her husband participated in one in Austin a few days ago....peaceful. I participated in the protest at LSL after the Parkland shootings right here in The V, alongside some of our fantastic Villages High School students.

[TOMMY D]

Those guilty have been arrested . I understand those protesting are doing to address police policy's which at times are not those of the department. There are those using what has happen as an excuse to vandal and steal. Look at who these people are. Not law abiding citizens in any way. Some are kids. Yes kids. I've yet to see protest marches to address police who are killed every year. Why not. We all need to realize these men and women are the ones who protect us from what your seeing now on TV. Are you prepared to defend yourself when they approach you or your family. I find it even harder to understand how someone is paying these protesters or even those rioting and destroying property. These people have pallets and brick and stones left on streets for use.

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by Windguy

I'd like to tell a true story.

When I first came to TV, the neighborhood men got together once a month for lunch and invited someone to come speak. It was a sheriff's deputy one month. He suggested we call the Sheriff's Office to request a free safety assessment of our houses. I did and a deputy came to my house. He showed me some things I could do to make it more difficult for someone to break into my house.

After that, he warned me to stay east of the railroad tracks in Wildwood because people were dangerous on the other side. He then said, and I quote verbatim, "Now don't get me wrong, I don't think ALL minorities are bad." There is no doubt in my mind that he was as racist as they get.

How would you like to be one of the (I'm sure) many good people living west of 301 knowing this racist was walking around with a gun and a hatred for them?

Now don't get me wrong, I don't think ALL cops are bad. ;-)

But there sure seem to be a lot of them here in central Florida. :-(

Have you gone on the west side of the tracks to find out for yourself?

[clwahlstrom]

You are soooo right on!!!

[Debi-G]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

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Given that many studies have shown that in general, the younger generations are a lot less racist, bigoted, xenophobic and misogynistic than the large numbers of old white folks, who will be dying out in coming years...there's still hope for this country.

Did you really just say that??? I feel very offended, being an "old white folk" myself and wonder what your intention is? The younger generation that I have observed seem to not be able to think on their own, and tend to follow the herd of whichever person is more vocal about whatever is going on at any given time. I fear for the leadership of this country in the coming decades, because of that. Their only saving grace it seems, is that everyone will be mixed by then so how will there be a race war?

[mtlee024]

Originally Posted by JimJohnson

In the 60’s I believed I would see an end to racial discrimination in my lifetime. We were getting close, then in 2017 I began to see this issue slow down, and now it is going back to the 60’s. I will be there.

If it run by the origianal BLM organization, then, based on experience, it will not entirely peaceful. Just guessing. I hope it is peaceful, but be careful if you go.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Bucco

I wish those who want to discuss this situation would stop with the defense of police officers. THAT IS NOT THE CASE...I BELIEVE EVERYONE KNOWS HOW TOUGH THAT JOB IS AND RESPECTS WHAT THEY HAVE ON THEIR PLATE..THEY NEED NO DEFENSE AND FRANKLY I HAVE NEVER READ OR HEARD ANY....ANY CRITICISM OF THE POLICE IN GENERAL.

I realize you will blame me and my mindset, but each and every time something like this happens, at lease on this forum, we begin all the good things that police have done and relive the lives of the other guys as we dig for any dirt we can find.

WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS LISTEN.......the demonstrations, and again.....NOBODY LIKE THE LOOTING....but the demonstrations are to get attention to what is being said. Yes, the outside groups trying to use the demonstations and derail what is actually being said show up...the white supremicists etc. And it appears we pay more attention to them. It is like folks are simply deaf to the message. I read demeaning comments that are knee jerk reactions....they do not even know why the demonstrations and I suppose those who never have to worry about wearing a hoodie, jogging, etc because they have a black skin, simply pass this off.

Why are we not discussing the ongoing situation in our neighborhood and what might be done about it. Why are we not discussing why anyone with black skin is afraid to go out in a hoodie...see the Savannah story where a man out jogging was shot to death. It was because he was black.

Should not the injustice be discussed and LISTENED TO....we are spending our time simply talking instead of even understanding what these protests are about. We spend our time threatening....talking tough in stead of listening and trying to understand.

Every poster on here feigns understanding and if they post, you can be assured it will be about criticizing the police in general (NOT THE CASE), or will have a "BUT" and an addition about taking military force to Americans (not all for sure). Reading today that it is proposed to put tanks in the street......those folks are not listening, simply playing strong guy. Shallow thinking is not going to put this country back together.

Sorry, but I am biased. I generally believe COPS over scumbag criminals. Yes, I saw PART of the recording where the COP used improper restraining technique with a muscular, resisting suspect. It resulted in a death. I did not see premeditated murder there and I do not know what the suspect was being arrested for. That given, I would give the COP the benefit of doubt until the investigation is complete. Most police depts utilize a use of force report whenever force is used on a suspect. Internal Affairs investigates uses of force to make sure that no one is abusing their authority. 99% of COPs are not only good but GREAT. Stats show that there is a better chance of a black man being shot by a black cop than a white cop. Just saying and not trying to really make a comparison. I do not think this is a racial thing, even though some are making it one. The first autopsy showed that Floyd had medical issues that contributed to the death.
NOW, for the subject. The protests have achieved what they wanted, justice. Now, they should go home, not push it. Protesters are being associated with rioters and criminal elements that need to be arrested. The protesters need to go home, period. The law needs/HAS to come down hard on the law breakers. We have seen family livelihood destroyed and lives actually lost due to paid criminals that have infiltrated the demonstrators. This is happening in the cities where there is probably serious gun control, or there would be less destruction. You will not see these thugs out here because they know that many of us have gun collections and know how to protect what is ours.
I saw where a good black retired police Capt was murdered while doing his job as security for a store. You will NOT see any protests or demonstrations for that good man. Why? Maybe because it was not some authority that committed the act? Or, maybe the perp was black? Who knows? Just saying.
I won't be at any racially motivated demonstration. To be frank with you, most conservatives are color blind and do not see people as color or gender. Liberals always concentrate on color or gender identity. That is the way it has always been when it comes to politics. Like bad cops, real racists are a very small group that will eventually be weeded out. There is no reason for EVERYONE to have to endure punishment for what a few "bad apples" do criminally. When you clean up the black on black crime in the cities, then come back and work on the very minute little blemishes with the rest of society. We do not need protests and demonstrations, because we already agree with ridding the country of bad actors in any position. Destruction and assaults do not influence any argument in a positive way.
A very few law enforcement officers are bad.
A very few military members are bad.
Can you say the same about politicians?

[BlackhawksFan]

Originally Posted by Dgizzi

And you shouldn’t blame all Police I find it offensive to bully my policemen and women. It isn’t their fault this happened so why punish them? It didn’t happen here. And the policemen is getting charged. Justice is happening why do you have to continue to protest?

Wow.

It has happened here in FL and it is systemic. You're pretty I'll informed you may want to educate yourself before ypu post.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Debi-G

Did you really just say that??? I feel very offended, being an "old white folk" myself and wonder what your intention is? The younger generation that I have observed seem to not be able to think on their own, and tend to follow the herd of whichever person is more vocal about whatever is going on at any given time. I fear for the leadership of this country in the coming decades, because of that. Their only saving grace it seems, is that everyone will be mixed by then so how will there be a race war?

Just do a search of his previous posts, and you will quickly find out that HE REALLY SAID THAT

[Marathon Man]

Originally Posted by Debi-G

Did you really just say that??? I feel very offended, being an "old white folk" myself and wonder what your intention is? The younger generation that I have observed seem to not be able to think on their own, and tend to follow the herd of whichever person is more vocal about whatever is going on at any given time. I fear for the leadership of this country in the coming decades, because of that. Their only saving grace it seems, is that everyone will be mixed by then so how will there be a race war?

That is exactly what they said about us. With our long hair and our loud music, the country would be turned to shambles.

Each generation determines it own values and it own way of doing things. It is as it should be. Many of our ways are now outdated, just like our grandparents' ways.

[ProfessorDave]

Thanks for sharing. If other TV homeowners are going - maybe pick a place and time to meet. (Or - maybe it will be obvious based on our age.) When a General Mattis can have the GUTS to come out and share the obvious to some of us, don't we owe the little support we can individually provide? Me personally - I'm totally shocked at the inability of so many in this community to recognize that they are experiencing what most all historic records share about the culture, strategy and success of the German leadership in the 30's.

[mflasch]

How come they are not "protesting" for the deaths of David Dorn, Patrick Underwood and Italia Marie Kelly? You know the innocent black individuals that were murdered by the "protestors?" Guess it doesn't fit their agenda and goes to prove "Some Black Lives Matter." Pathetic.