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Windguy 06-03-2020 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1776505)
Thank you for the support of the good Police Officers in America.

And for those of you that DO NOT SUPPORT Law Enforcement, or think all of them are bad, there will be a instance in your life where you’ll need the Police and when that time comes, go %#*^ yourself.

I think I can guarantee you that virtually no one thinks all police officers are bad. There are a few bad ones, but, unfortunately, they are protected by the institutions and often get nothing more than a slap on the wrist for murder.

Windguy 06-03-2020 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1776546)
I don't recall the Rambo wannabes injuring or killing any cops, looting stores, burning down buildings etc but other than that you've produced an outstanding false equivalence.

Yeah, and they weren't protesting anything like murderous cops that go free. They were complaining that they couldn't have a beer at the bar and other minor things.

Windguy 06-03-2020 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1776549)
So is leading a life of crime.

If only it were only criminals who are brutalized by racist cops. Becoming a cop is a choice and they know what they are getting into beforehand. Being born with black skin is not a choice. MANY decent, law-abiding, productive black people have been harassed by racist cops for merely having black skin.

Would you want to trade places with them? I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to have a panic attack because I fear I might die every time I see flashing lights coming up behind me when I'm in my car. Oh, no! Is a tail light out? I hope this guy doesn't kill me. That's what black people deal with every day of their lives. Do you?

Show a little sympathy for people less fortunate than you.

Windguy 06-03-2020 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1776553)
CAN you not see that there are thousands of police officers who are not like the one you are talking about. That isn't passive aggressive to speak of them. It hurts them and diminishes them to be thought to be cruel and unfair to people. It is wrong to think all in the group are like the ones in the group you don't like.

Well, then why don't the good ones demand that the violent racists be punished for what they do? If they think they are being diminished, then they damn well better do something about it.

Windguy 06-03-2020 01:59 PM

I'd like to tell a true story.

When I first came to TV, the neighborhood men got together once a month for lunch and invited someone to come speak. It was a sheriff's deputy one month. He suggested we call the Sheriff's Office to request a free safety assessment of our houses. I did and a deputy came to my house. He showed me some things I could do to make it more difficult for someone to break into my house.

After that, he warned me to stay east of the railroad tracks in Wildwood because people were dangerous on the other side. He then said, and I quote verbatim, "Now don't get me wrong, I don't think ALL minorities are bad." There is no doubt in my mind that he was as racist as they get.

How would you like to be one of the (I'm sure) many good people living west of 301 knowing this racist was walking around with a gun and a hatred for them?

Now don't get me wrong, I don't think ALL cops are bad. ;-)

But there sure seem to be a lot of them here in central Florida. :-(

daveersk 06-03-2020 02:23 PM

Law Enforcement is the glue that holds our country together.

When I see disrespect for ALL Law Enforcement, It makes me sad & anxious for the country.

Every group of people have rotten apples, this is what occurred with this case.

It’s extremely disheartening to see the total disrespect for ALL Law Enforcement.

Remember:
Most likely someday you’ll need Law Enforcement in some capacity.

God Bless America!

ColdNoMore 06-03-2020 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 1776673)
I'd like to tell a true story.

When I first came to TV, the neighborhood men got together once a month for lunch and invited someone to come speak. It was a sheriff's deputy one month. He suggested we call the Sheriff's Office to request a free safety assessment of our houses. I did and a deputy came to my house. He showed me some things I could do to make it more difficult for someone to break into my house.

After that, he warned me to stay east of the railroad tracks in Wildwood because people were dangerous on the other side. He then said, and I quote verbatim, "Now don't get me wrong, I don't think ALL minorities are bad." There is no doubt in my mind that he was as racist as they get.

How would you like to be one of the (I'm sure) many good people living west of 301 knowing this racist was walking around with a gun and a hatred for them?

Now don't get me wrong, I don't think ALL cops are bad. ;-)

But there sure seem to be a lot of them here in central Florida.
:-(

YEP!:(

Just down the street...not that long go (2014).


Fruitland Park KKK Cops Fired (put robe on here)

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Ann Hunnewell and her central Florida police officer husband knelt in the living room of a fellow officer's home, with pillow cases as makeshift hoods over their heads. A few words were spoken and they, along with a half-dozen others, were initiated into the local chapter of the Ku Klux Klan, she says.

Last week, that initiation ceremony, which took place five years ago, stunned residents of the small town of Fruitland Park, who found out an investigative report linked two city officers with the secret hate society that once was violently active in the area. Ann Hunnewell's ex-husband, George Hunnewell, was fired, and deputy chief David Borst resigned from the 13-member Fruitland Park Police Department. Borst has denied being a member.

James Elkins, a third officer who Ann Hunnewell says recruited her and her husband, resigned in 2010 after his Klan ties became public.


ColdNoMore 06-03-2020 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 1776664)
Well, then why don't the good ones demand that the violent racists be punished for what they do? If they think they are being diminished, then they damn well better do something about it.


Exactly.

Silence is complicity.

John_W 06-03-2020 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by daveersk (Post 1776682)
Law Enforcement is the glue that holds our country together.

When I see disrespect for ALL Law Enforcement, It makes me sad & anxious for the country.

Every group of people have rotten apples, this is what occurred with this case.

It’s extremely disheartening to see the total disrespect for ALL Law Enforcement.


Remember:
Most likely someday you’ll need Law Enforcement in some capacity.

God Bless America!

No one could of said all that any better. That's what these young people don't seem to get, that one day, someday, it will happen, they're going to have to call 911.

Velvet 06-03-2020 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1776362)
:thumbup:...:thumbup:...:thumbup:


Given that many studies have shown that in general, the younger generations are a lot less racist, bigoted, xenophobic and misogynistic than the large numbers of old white folks, who will be dying out in coming years...there's still hope for this country. :ho:

Well WE were supposed to be that way among the flower children in the 60’s and 70’s. What happened?

Kenswing 06-03-2020 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1776687)

Exactly.

Silence is complicity.

How so?

If I posted 50 times a day on this forum lecturing people, would it make me any less complicit?

I didn't know that making noise granted relief from complicity.

ColdNoMore 06-03-2020 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1776766)
How so?

If I posted 50 times a day on this forum lecturing people, would it make me any less complicit?

I didn't know that making noise granted relief from complicity.


It has nothing to do with the number of posts and everything to do with having the spine, in spite of peer pressure, to consistently stand up for what's right...regardless of the venue.

That could be anything from writing those who represent you, to volunteering, donating or standing with...those who are the most oppressed.

And yes...I've done all.

Not doing anything, or worse, denying the problem exists in the first place...is the complicity.

anothersteve 06-03-2020 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1776773)

It has nothing to do with the number of posts and everything to do with having the spine, in spite of peer pressure, to consistently stand up for what's right...regardless of the venue.

That could be anything from writing those who represent you, to volunteering, donating or standing with...those who are the most oppressed.

And yes...I've done all.

Not doing anything, or worse, denying the problem exists in the first place...is the complicity.

Plenty of others here have done, and keep doing it all. You don't know all about everyone.

Steve

Kenswing 06-03-2020 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1776773)

It has nothing to do with the number of posts and everything to do with having the spine, in spite of peer pressure, to consistently stand up for what's right...regardless of the venue.

That could be anything from writing those who represent you, to volunteering, donating or standing with...those who are the most oppressed.

And yes...I've done all.

Not doing anything, or worse, denying the problem exists in the first place...is the complicity.

Nope. That's your idea of complicity.

Webster's definition is: "Association or participation in or as if in a wrongful act."

Just because someone remains silent, in no way makes them complicit no matter how much you would like it to. Silence does not equal association or participation. Silence is simply the absence of sound.

anothersteve 06-03-2020 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1776777)
Nope. That's your idea of complicity.

Webster's definition is: "Association or participation in or as if in a wrongful act."

Just because someone remains silent, in no way makes them complicit no matter how much you would like it to. Silence does not equal association or participation. Silence is simply the absence of sound.

Well said, thanks.
Steve


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